After seeing what happened to Duke Nukem Forever Development Team; I think it sends a pretty dismal picture to anyone who just thinks they want to ride on their past fame in the industry. I highly doubt that A-net would ever make the same mistake. I say give them the extra 2-3 years to get the thing done properly, and after that then they can face the angry mob for the little information they have given out already.
To be quite honest it’s A-net’s bad habit of not saying anything until the last minute I am counting on here. Eventually it will be come clear what is going on with GW 2 development. If they really did not care about Guild Wars 2 then you would have never seen the last update; appealing to some new micro-transactions options to help the development team with their funding.
Making wave out of nothing - GW2
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Cacheelma
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Originally Posted by Katsumi
It's the excuse they'll be using for all delays for the next few years.
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Sarevok Thordin
Anet really should release SOME info, ANY info...
What we'll get through the Hall of Monuments
Shots of the new races
A World map shot
A shot of world PvP
System Spec requirements
ANYTHING, the fact we know NOTHING about it is driving us up the wall.
What we'll get through the Hall of Monuments
Shots of the new races
A World map shot
A shot of world PvP
System Spec requirements
ANYTHING, the fact we know NOTHING about it is driving us up the wall.
netniwk
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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin
Anet really should release SOME info, ANY info...
What we'll get through the Hall of Monuments Shots of the new races A World map shot A shot of world PvP System Spec requirements ANYTHING, the fact we know NOTHING about it is driving us up the wall. |
Nanood
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It will be done when it's done, just like Duke Nukem Forever. Oh... you mean that didn't work out for 3DRealms? Well, I'm sure the same strategy of an innitial media hype followed by a few years of mysterious silence will work out much better for Anet.
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Maybe GW2 is Duke Nukem Forever... Never give up hope. I don't think I have ever read an article involving games that didn't make it or weren't going to happen that didn't mention Duke. It will take a lot of serious promotion and hype and then a quick backflip and Houdini for GW2 to take that crown.
Crimso
I'd like to see more information even if it is lore or story based and not directly game-play based. A book that's being released in 2010(wasn't that GW2's original release year) isn't really enough.
Aljasha
let's talk about it again after summer vacation. you are driving each other mad.
Edge Igneas
Well the reason a lot of people are angry maybe has something to do with them announcing how it would come out in 2008, and just look at the timeframe now. I don't know how many people can even take a couple more months with Guild Wars, I mean maxing titles, and PvP. Meh, its going to be hard to wait that long eventually.
Moreover disturbing to me, is the fact we don't really know anything besides new races and what they say it will be like, other then that its complete imagination. To me I think it could be a financial problem, which is the last thing anyone wants. But lets face it, Guild Wars is a huge cashsink for NCsoft.
I just hope in the end it will pay off finally.
Moreover disturbing to me, is the fact we don't really know anything besides new races and what they say it will be like, other then that its complete imagination. To me I think it could be a financial problem, which is the last thing anyone wants. But lets face it, Guild Wars is a huge cashsink for NCsoft.
I just hope in the end it will pay off finally.
pamelf
Product Review could just as well mean 'oh shit guys, having reviewed the way the game is currently progressing I vote we cut our losses and cease the Guild Wars Franchise forthwith.'
bel unbreakable
if they play it every wed they should be able to let us have some thing new about it at the very least
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if they play it every wed they should be able to let us have some thing new about it at the very least
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its their game, their schedule, why should they just cos we want it?
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Well the reason a lot of people are angry maybe has something to do with them announcing how it would come out in 2008, and just look at the timeframe now.
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Besides, lets remember that they were forced to announce GW2 much too early. If they could have it any other way, we'd have only heard about the existence of GW2 this year. Technically, they are still within a reasonable time frame for making a brand new MMO.
I pwnd U
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Besides, lets remember that they were forced to announce GW2 much too early. If they could have it any other way, we'd have only heard about the existence of GW2 this year. Technically, they are still within a reasonable time frame for making a brand new MMO.
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Also, an interesting thought is how populated would GW be if GW2 had never been announced? Would it be more populated because people would be looking for more ways to keep it interesting? Or would it be even less populated because people see no point in continuing to play?
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Refresh my memory, how were they forced to announce GW2 too early? Don't seem to remember.
Also, an interesting thought is how populated would GW be if GW2 had never been announced? Would it be more populated because people would be looking for more ways to keep it interesting? Or would it be even less populated because people see no point in continuing to play? |
Option one: they don't say anything and work on GW2 in secret, not releasing campaign 4-6 or releasing only one campaign, taking twice as long on GW2 because they need to do stuff for GW1, and getting every single fan extremely pissed off for not keeping up with their promised schedule while not telling us why.
Option two: What they ended up doing. Tell us about GW2 and then put all resources into developing it as quickly as possible with a few new things for GW1 to keep us at least a little happy. Still pisses people off for not giving us frequent updates on GW2 progress and for not giving us enough new content for GW1.
I feel that they did the right thing in choosing option two. I also think that GW1 would be less populated if they had not announced GW2 and given us the HoM. Without GW2, people really would have absolutely no reason to play beyond the personal satisfaction of completing a goal and guildies/friends. Because we know that GW2 is coming and that we will be rewarded for our efforts, people have more of a reason to pursue their goals. Personally, I would have quit GW a long ago if it hadn't been for the promise of GW2 and my guildies.
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Mole hill. To me it sounds like they are preparing to give a report to the higher ups on how their progress is, not to the community.
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Sifow Chan
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
This is accurate. The product development review is an internal review.
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oracle.delphi
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"We're not ready to talk about Guildwars 2 yet"
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Buster
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LOL u just KNOW this is how it's going down
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Apollo Smile
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
This is accurate. The product development review is an internal review.
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DarklingKiller
By the time GW2 comes out, the only ones that will be playing are the Koreans...
Cacheelma
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By the time GW2 comes out, the only ones that will be playing are the Koreans...
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Clone
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Originally Posted by DarklingKiller
By the time GW2 comes out, the only ones that will be playing are the Koreans...
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Nodakim
I saw DNF gameplay videos and screenshots,but I didnt see any from GW2.
Never excpected that to happen...
Never excpected that to happen...
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I'm kinda getting worried that GW2 is somehow going to be this massive failure that never gets released and instead they just make a new gw1 expansion.
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ditto..
That's why I'm looking forward to Diablo3 which will be around end of 2009, early 2010.
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ditto..
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I bet they are waiting for Diablo 2 to hit full 10 years. Then in July 2010 they will release Diablo 3.
Wish Swiftdeath
koreans still play?
Lonesamurai
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koreans still play?
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Aion has been released for them
Kattar
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Xinix
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This is accurate. The product development review is an internal review.
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We should know by now that they don't give any GW2 info to us.
ajc2123
Whoa...WHOA...I was right?
Score one for me!
Tahts like 1 win vs 600 loss. I'm epic now right? XP
Score one for me!
Tahts like 1 win vs 600 loss. I'm epic now right? XP
Lonesamurai
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Why are we not surprised about this answer. LOL
We should know by now that they don't give any GW2 info to us. |
if its still at internal review, then there is still chance that if it sucks it could be restarted or even scrapped completely
welcome to Development (and thats not just Game Development, but any industry)
HEXED
Well, imo they don't care about GW2 cuz of Aion. We still have some time for 2010 - but HEY! We dont have any screens or trailers. Still +2 years.
Lonesamurai
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Well, imo they don't care about GW2 cuz of Aion. We still have some time for 2010 - but HEY! We dont have any screens or trailers. Still +2 years.
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And damn, your avatar is HOT!
Mordakai
Why are people talking about Diablo 3?
This is not a zero sum game. People who buy Diablo 3 are not necessarily NOT going to buy Guild Wars 2, and vice versa.
Plus, I doubt Blizzard will launch Diablo 3 while still working on StarCraft 2 "expansions".
I DO think it's logical that NCSoft would hold GW2 until after Aion has had a chance in the US.
Bottom line: I don't care how long it takes. I'm still having fun playing GW, and I suspect I'll continue to play original GW even after Guild Wars 2 (just like I still make pre-searing characters even after I have all the chapters).
Take your time Anet. StarCraft 2 took over 10 years to come, and it didn't get hurt at all. If anything, the time just builds excitement.
This is not a zero sum game. People who buy Diablo 3 are not necessarily NOT going to buy Guild Wars 2, and vice versa.
Plus, I doubt Blizzard will launch Diablo 3 while still working on StarCraft 2 "expansions".
I DO think it's logical that NCSoft would hold GW2 until after Aion has had a chance in the US.
Bottom line: I don't care how long it takes. I'm still having fun playing GW, and I suspect I'll continue to play original GW even after Guild Wars 2 (just like I still make pre-searing characters even after I have all the chapters).
Take your time Anet. StarCraft 2 took over 10 years to come, and it didn't get hurt at all. If anything, the time just builds excitement.
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I don't think it is.
Also the fact that they are showcasing the game to the higher ups means that theres a chance they may decide when to give us info. But theres also that huge chance of, "Eh, not yet". Atleast we know that when we do get info the game is going to be pretty complete.
Apollo Smile
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Why are people talking about Diablo 3?
This is not a zero sum game. People who buy Diablo 3 are not necessarily NOT going to buy Guild Wars 2, and vice versa. Plus, I doubt Blizzard will launch Diablo 3 while still working on StarCraft 2 "expansions". I DO think it's logical that NCSoft would hold GW2 until after Aion has had a chance in the US. Bottom line: I don't care how long it takes. I'm still having fun playing GW, and I suspect I'll continue to play original GW even after Guild Wars 2 (just like I still make pre-searing characters even after I have all the chapters). Take your time Anet. StarCraft 2 took over 10 years to come, and it didn't get hurt at all. If anything, the time just builds excitement. |
Jecht Scye
Diablo 3, WoW, and Aion are all in completely different marketing platforms from Guild Wars 2. Comparing them is like saying a salary cap in baseball will drastically affect the television ratings of hockey games.
Correct me if I'm wrong but:
Diablo 3 = Action Adventure RPG
WoW and Aion = Pay to Play MMORPGs
Guild Wars 2 = Pay once to play MMORPG
Therefore people wanting WoW and Guild Wars 2 could viably do so without having to pay extra money monthly (just the one time expense.). I think you can put the rest of the cases together yourselves. So the competition argument is pretty much moot then.
Correct me if I'm wrong but:
Diablo 3 = Action Adventure RPG
WoW and Aion = Pay to Play MMORPGs
Guild Wars 2 = Pay once to play MMORPG
Therefore people wanting WoW and Guild Wars 2 could viably do so without having to pay extra money monthly (just the one time expense.). I think you can put the rest of the cases together yourselves. So the competition argument is pretty much moot then.
Apollo Smile
Diablo = hack and slash dungeon crawler...nothing like an MMO.
Targren
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Diablo = hack and slash dungeon crawler...nothing like an MMO.
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Ok, seriously though, Diablo (and especially Diablo II) had a lot on common with the current MMO offerings... Relatively short, designed for repetition, grind, and loot farming. Hell, it's like playing WoW without the genitally-insecure 14 year olds (assuming you don't go on to battlenet. *shudder*). I still fire it up when I feel the bug biting.
Nah, GW avoided that mold (though has long since reversed course to head at it straight-on) but D2 was VERY much, gameplay wise, like most of the big MMOs.