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Konig Des Todes

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10 Jun 2009 at 21:52 - 81

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Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk

Dragon that drives the norn south - Drakkar (?), Ice cliff chasms dragon
-The only dragon I can see driving the norn south, unless the ice cliff chasms serpent is a legit dragon.
-Gunnar's hold fell to creatures of Ice and snow, and if the armie's themes follow the dragons, It has to be Drakkar or the ice dragon, all that matters is if the ice cliff dragon is a true dragon or not.

the Ice Pillar Dragon (official concept name of it) cannot be the Dragon of Ice and Snow, it would push the Norn North, not South.

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Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk

Dragon that is controlling the Crystal desert - Malchor
I don't know if Malchor can control all of southern tyria, but meh.

Either Malchor, Grothmar, or the Ice Pillar Dragon *you're the first I have seen to suggest Malchor for that, to be honest*

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Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk

Dragon that flies down from The Far Shiverpeaks - Drakkar (?), Primordus
Only plausible one I can see, not mentioned anywhere else. Primordus is in the Shiverpeaks, just northwest of Ascalon, He has wings. It is not explicitly stated that the dragon had just woke up, Primordus had been apparently underground.

Primordus is underground and seems to stay underground building his forces. I don't think he'd move first east then south. Drakkar wouldn't, he must be the Dragon of Snow and Ice unless there is another dragon even farther north than we can go. Primordus is also the first to wake up, and the one to fly south is last.

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

Primordus cant be the desert dragon. Hes the dragon thats underground driving the Asura out. And the Undead Dragon is if i remember correctly , in Arah.

Arah isn't far from the Crystal Desert. THough I don't think "Malchor" is the Desert Dragon, it could be.

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10 Jun 2009 at 23:17 - 82

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Arah isn't far from the Crystal Desert. THough I don't think "Malchor" is the Desert Dragon, it could be.

The Movement of the World seems to imply he is actually in Arah as in, deep in Arah. The "desert dragon" is apparantly in the Northen Desert. Also it would be strange for the Undead Dragon to suddenly become known as the desert dragon.

Neo Atomisk

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11 Jun 2009 at 01:14 - 83

But the thing is, Primordus could've woken up, then...
-built armies
-pushed out the asura
-flown down to the crystal desert to expand his territory

And... I DO recall reading something in the movement stating that a dragon from the most northern mountains pushed the norn south, so there could be another Dragon north of Jaga Morgaine.

Konig Des Todes

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11 Jun 2009 at 03:22 - 84

I think that Primordus makes his home in the depths itself, and not spreading all over. Which would be a good move on his mark, if he's intelligent, and if he went to the Crystal Desert, why fly? He could travel underground unhalted.

Free Runner

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11 Jun 2009 at 06:21 - 85

Now we're just creating dragons out of nothing

the dragon that pushes the Norn south is the Dragon of Ice and Snow. And Primordus is not the dragon that flew south over Ascalon because it pretty much states hes still in the depths at the present day of Guild Wars 2. Not only that but it actually lists Primordus seperatly from this dragon...

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11 Jun 2009 at 15:31 - 86

But if those 2 did as you say, the only options for the "flying" dragon would be a new dragon or the ice cliff serpent

Obrien Xp

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11 Jun 2009 at 20:21 - 87

There's always more dragon's than you know. We just need to find out which exactly. I am also strongly against making anything we see into an ancient dragon other than the one in Grothmar, Drakkar, and Primordious.

Lishy

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11 Jun 2009 at 20:26 - 88

I'm noticing a pattern here.
Grothmar was named after his explorable and so is Drakkar.
There are other explorables in the game that are named in the fashion of "*name* *noun*"

Maybe we'd find another dragon somewhere?

Gmr Leon

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11 Jun 2009 at 21:53 - 89

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

I'm noticing a pattern here.
Grothmar was named after his explorable and so is Drakkar.
There are other explorables in the game that are named in the fashion of "*name* *noun*"

Maybe we'd find another dragon somewhere?

Those aren't official names though. They were called that by the playerbase after the area in which they were discovered. Nothing more, nothing less.

Lishy

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11 Jun 2009 at 22:53 - 90

Drakkar was unoffical, maybe. But I'm sure Grothmar is confirmed.

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11 Jun 2009 at 23:02 - 91

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Drakkar was unoffical, maybe. But I'm sure Grothmar is confirmed.

Drakkar is still an unofficial name. Grothmar is not a confirmed name, if my memory serves, I'm the one who came up with the nickname in the first place. Or perhaps I should say, one of the many who did.

Konig Des Todes

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11 Jun 2009 at 23:12 - 92

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Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk

But if those 2 did as you say, the only options for the "flying" dragon would be a new dragon or the ice cliff serpent

Or "Grothmar." >_>

If there is another dragon, than it would be North of Grothmar for it to fly over Ascalon and the Charr Homelands.

Also, something I just realized. If the "Northern Mountains" dragon becomes the "Desert Dragon" then wouldn't it fly directly over Ebonhawke? Thus twisting them?

I think the Dragon that flies south stops before the Blazeridge Mountains, or else Ebonhawke would be destroyed and there would be little point in mentioning them (that is, without saying they were corrupted by the dragon)...

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11 Jun 2009 at 23:26 - 93

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

I'm noticing a pattern here.
Grothmar was named after his explorable and so is Drakkar.
There are other explorables in the game that are named in the fashion of "*name* *noun*"

Maybe we'd find another dragon somewhere?

Umbral Grotto, deeper beneath the mines...

I could start listing them but, I think we could make a list of possibilities

Gmr Leon

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11 Jun 2009 at 23:37 - 94

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Also, something I just realized. If the "Northern Mountains" dragon becomes the "Desert Dragon" then wouldn't it fly directly over Ebonhawke? Thus twisting them?

I think the Dragon that flies south stops before the Blazeridge Mountains, or else Ebonhawke would be destroyed and there would be little point in mentioning them (that is, without saying they were corrupted by the dragon)...

I don't think so. Ebonhawke is utterly minuscule in comparison to the territory controlled by the Charr. It's kind of tucked away in the southwestern corner between the Shiverpeaks and the Blazeridge Mountains, of what was once Ascalonian territory. Pretty sure that's how it was described, I'll have to read over bits of the Movement again.

Yeah, that's correct. Unless Grothmar, or whatever dragon erupts from the Northern mountains, is the size of the entire bloody region of Ascalon, I don't think it would have corrupted them. After all, it just says what was below its flight path.

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12 Jun 2009 at 00:04 - 95

I thought Ebonhawke was more in the center of the Blazeridge Mountains *the portions which we see at least* which would be south of Grothmar.

Eh.

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Originally Posted by Obrien Xp

Umbral Grotto, deeper beneath the mines...

I could start listing them but, I think we could make a list of possibilities

Both you and Kain are getting it backwards, Dragons are named after areas, not the areas named after dragons. ~_~

Obrien Xp

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12 Jun 2009 at 02:13 - 96

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Both you and Kain are getting it backwards, Dragons are named after areas, not the areas named after dragons. ~_~

I haven't been entirely awake here lately, I can't keep track on who suggested which or who confirmed which, I just reply to posts that I can add on to

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12 Jun 2009 at 02:13 - 97

Well, I was mapping around Grothmar a bit, and I noticed something intredting.

Grothmar's head never actually sink into the ground.
From a view looking from the west (facing east) it is visible that Grothmar's body does not sink into the ground, but that his body simply stops after a segment. I feel like this supports more of an idea of the visible Grothmar being just a cocoon for a smaller creature

Obrien Xp

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14 Jun 2009 at 22:32 - 98

I'd have to agree with the above regarding the cocoon-ish thing. Not entirely, but it has points. Prim and Drakkar have exposed heads, why isn't there an exposed head for Grothmar, just like some oddly shaped stone or the like?

Gmr Leon

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14 Jun 2009 at 23:38 - 99

One thing to keep in mind about Primordus and Drakkar though, they're both encased in something; albeit more natural than what Grothmar may be encased in. For example, Primordus was encased in igneous rock, and Drakkar was encased in ice. Grothmar just happens to possibly be encased in a much different substance.

Not only that, but technically, Drakkar's head isn't exposed, as in, projecting out from the lake. It's merely due to the translucency of the ice that we are capable of seeing it.

Konig Des Todes

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15 Jun 2009 at 01:48 - 100

A thing about the cocoon thing. I went and looked, and the "cut offs" are only seen when you make the rocks at the end of Grothmar (which are before him) see-through. This is probably just done as a game-play/laziness thing and cannot be taken as lore.

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20 Jun 2009 at 07:03 - 101

Well I have this idea of the gods noticing that this is a threat to big, so they return to the world to help us a hand :P Wouldn't that be great, Balthazar versus Primordus ;D

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14 Jul 2009 at 11:04 - 102

yeah true there is a big difference in size

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

But the only way we know of how gods are made, are by killing the previous god and taking their energy. If the Ancient Dragons are still alive, how were they succeeded?

Wow! That made me think! What if a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago, the gods were fighting the ancient dragons for some reason, we dont really know why or where or when but... the gods decided to leave the fight... leave tyria... we don't know exactly WHY the gods left, they didnt say "hey, were leaving because were confident that since weve taken away all the overly-powerful magic, everything will be fine". The humans probable just guessed why the gods left. My idea is that the dragons were fighting the gods in order to TAKE THEIR ENERGY BY KILLING THEM AND BECOMING GODS!
Since the gods left tyria, they had nothing better to do so they started to hibernate, then they awake... the gods, prehaps, could still be too weak to fight them off or they know that they cant defeat them, so they leave it up to the races of tyria to sort out the problem!!!
Good idea or what?

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22 Jul 2009 at 19:58 - 104

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Originally Posted by Winnies Bro

Wow! That made me think! What if a long time ago, the gods were fighting the ancient dragons for some reason, we dont really know why or where or when but... the gods decided to leave the fight... leave tyria...

Not a new theory - I was one of those who thought at first that the Ancient Dragons are an older generation of god - then I actually thought of how the next generation would succeed them, and without knowing of a second way, they couldn't. So I dropped that theory. Others didn't.

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Originally Posted by Winnies Bro

we don't know exactly WHY the gods left, they didnt say "hey, were leaving because were confident that since weve taken away all the overly-powerful magic, everything will be fine". The humans probable just guessed why the gods left.

Possible that the real reason of the gods leaving Tyria is unknown, however, due to the events that occurred just before, I would say we know the true reason. The gods feared harming more of the world. Their gift caused wars and them defeating one of their own made massive land changed (Crystal Sea became a Crystal Desert and the Desolation was formed *theorized to have been a beach-like area before).

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Originally Posted by Winnies Bro

My idea is that the dragons were fighting the gods in order to TAKE THEIR ENERGY BY KILLING THEM AND BECOMING GODS!
Since the gods left tyria, they had nothing better to do so they started to hibernate,

Even though the Ancient Dragons have been spewing out their own magic, and have power that rivals gods, are seemingly ageless, and haven't been awake since before the Giganticus Lupicus?

The gods left at year 0. The Ancient Dragons have been asleep since before the humans arrived on Tyria which was about 200-300 years before year 0. It is said they are older than the giganticus Lupicus which were around about 10,000 years before year 0. I'm sure the Forgotten would have told humans and other races of the Ancient Dragons if they knew of them - they arrived 2,000 years before year 0. Thus, if the Ancient Dragons were ever awake when the current gods were around, it would have been 3,000 to 2,000 years before year 0 - around the same time Glint would have been made as the first creature by the gods.

If the Ancient Dragons and the gods once fought, it wouldn't have been an immediate reason for the gods to leave.

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Originally Posted by Winnies Bro

then they awake... the gods, prehaps, could still be too weak to fight them off or they know that they cant defeat them, so they leave it up to the races of tyria to sort out the problem!!!

So they expect weaker beings to defeat an enemy stronger than themselves? Doesn't make sense.

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22 Jul 2009 at 23:37 - 105

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

The gods left at year 0. The Ancient Dragons have been asleep since before the humans arrived on Tyria which was about 200-300 years before year 0. It is said they are older than the giganticus Lupicus which were around about 10,000 years before year 0. I'm sure the Forgotten would have told humans and other races of the Ancient Dragons if they knew of them - they arrived 2,000 years before year 0. Thus, if the Ancient Dragons were ever awake when the current gods were around, it would have been 3,000 to 2,000 years before year 0 - around the same time Glint would have been made as the first creature by the gods.

This made me wonder... The Ancient Dragons are older than Glint, by Konig's timeline, so, what if the Gods created Glint at the Dragons Image? Therefrom the dragon-like resemblance, the lesser power *albeit enormous, compared to other races* and the 'Night/Day' difference as stated in The Movement of The World.

The Dragons were around before Glint, and Glint was the first creature made by the Gods to spawn in Tyria. Any viable connection?

*ahem* sticking to the topic, 'Grothmar's' being huge/tortoise/whatsoever... who cares? And, from the looks of tMotW, 'Grothmar' is the one who flies south, through eastern Ascalon, not southwesterm, so, no 'kaboom' in EbonHawke, so no corrupted fields.

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23 Jul 2009 at 01:34 - 106

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Originally Posted by Eliz Genevieve

This made me wonder... The Ancient Dragons are older than Glint, by Konig's timeline, so, what if the Gods created Glint at the Dragons Image? Therefrom the dragon-like resemblance, the lesser power *albeit enormous, compared to other races* and the 'Night/Day' difference as stated in The Movement of The World.

The Dragons were around before Glint, and Glint was the first creature made by the Gods to spawn in Tyria. Any viable connection?

This has been thought of before - mainly due to the uncannily similarities between Glint and Primordus. Other theories such as father/daughter or some other form of blood relative have also been suggested. Though Glint being based off of one of the Ancient Dragons is most likely - assuming there is a connection - due on the size difference.

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*ahem* sticking to the topic, 'Grothmar's' being huge/tortoise/whatsoever... who cares? And, from the looks of tMotW, 'Grothmar' is the one who flies south, through eastern Ascalon, not southwesterm, so, no 'kaboom' in EbonHawke, so no corrupted fields.

corrupted fields can occur, in the eastern portion.

Also, welcome to Guru's lore forum Eliz. (I wonder why no one uses the introductory thread...)

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23 Jul 2009 at 03:18 - 107

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

So they expect weaker beings to defeat an enemy stronger than themselves? Doesn't make sense.

Playing Devil's Advocate, it could be that they figure that the the consequences of the weaker being failing is less.

Tyria, after all, is still only one world, and it is implied that the Gods have others as well as their realms in the Mists. The Ancient Dragons may have godlike power in Tyria, but they may not have the ability to move on to other worlds on their own - while if they defeat one or more of the gods, they may be able to steal the power to do so.

Essentially, this could mean that the Ancient Dragons are being quarantined on Tyria in much the same way Abaddon was quarantined in Torment. The gods may be hoping that the other creatures they've seeded across Tyria will be able to defeat the Dragons, but if they can't... well, it's only one world.

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23 Jul 2009 at 09:39 - 108

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This has been thought of before - mainly due to the uncannily similarities between Glint and Primordus. Other theories such as father/daughter or some other form of blood relative have also been suggested. Though Glint being based off of one of the Ancient Dragons is most likely - assuming there is a connection - due on the size difference.

Aw.. didn't know that it had already been thought.
The blood relative theories couldn't be, right? Glint was created by the Gods. Not 'born' or anything.

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23 Jul 2009 at 16:50 - 109

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Not a new theory - I was one of those who thought at first that the Ancient Dragons are an older generation of god - then I actually thought of how the next generation would succeed them, and without knowing of a second way, they couldn't. So I dropped that theory. Others didn't.

Possible that the real reason of the gods leaving Tyria is unknown, however, due to the events that occurred just before, I would say we know the true reason. The gods feared harming more of the world. Their gift caused wars and them defeating one of their own made massive land changed (Crystal Sea became a Crystal Desert and the Desolation was formed *theorized to have been a beach-like area before).

Even though the Ancient Dragons have been spewing out their own magic, and have power that rivals gods, are seemingly ageless, and haven't been awake since before the Giganticus Lupicus?

The gods left at year 0. The Ancient Dragons have been asleep since before the humans arrived on Tyria which was about 200-300 years before year 0. It is said they are older than the giganticus Lupicus which were around about 10,000 years before year 0. I'm sure the Forgotten would have told humans and other races of the Ancient Dragons if they knew of them - they arrived 2,000 years before year 0. Thus, if the Ancient Dragons were ever awake when the current gods were around, it would have been 3,000 to 2,000 years before year 0 - around the same time Glint would have been made as the first creature by the gods.

If the Ancient Dragons and the gods once fought, it wouldn't have been an immediate reason for the gods to leave.
So they expect weaker beings to defeat an enemy stronger than themselves? Doesn't make sense.

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Originally Posted by draxynnic

Essentially, this could mean that the Ancient Dragons are being quarantined on Tyria in much the same way Abaddon was quarantined in Torment. The gods may be hoping that the other creatures they've seeded across Tyria will be able to defeat the Dragons, but if they can't... well, it's only one world.

Only one world, just one, out of how many?

Countless may be the number of worlds the gods have created, yes, the gods care about tyria, but... Only ONE world will be lost in the battle that the gods may not be able win...

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Originally Posted by draxynnic

Playing Devil's Advocate, it could be that they figure that the the consequences of the weaker being failing is less.

Tyria, after all, is still only one world, and it is implied that the Gods have others as well as their realms in the Mists. The Ancient Dragons may have godlike power in Tyria, but they may not have the ability to move on to other worlds on their own - while if they defeat one or more of the gods, they may be able to steal the power to do so.

Essentially, this could mean that the Ancient Dragons are being quarantined on Tyria in much the same way Abaddon was quarantined in Torment.

Let the weakest ones fall and don't risk every other world the gods have created. It's a good plan, that's why the gods may not fight them. The gods should know that they may not be able to defeat the dragons, so they leave the world, they left tyria and left the humans in peace until the uninevitable fate that is the dragons awake.

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Originally Posted by konig des todes

Not a new theory - I was one of those who thought at first that the Ancient Dragons are an older generation of god - then I actually thought of how the next generation would succeed them, and without knowing of a second way, they couldn't. So I dropped that theory. Others didn't.

I'm sorry but i don't really understand what you're trying to say.

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Originally Posted by konig des todes

Possible that the real reason of the gods leaving TyriPossible that the real reason of the gods leaving Tyria is unknown, however, due to the events that occurred just before, I would say we know the true reason. The gods feared harming more of the world. Their gift caused wars and them defeating one of their own made massive land changed (Crystal Sea became a Crystal Desert and the Desolation was formed *theorized to have been a beach-like area before).a is unknown, however, due to the events that occurred just before, I would say we know the true reason. The gods feared harming more of the world. Their gift caused wars and them defeating one of their own made massive land changed (Crystal Sea became a Crystal Desert and the Desolation was formed *theorized to have been a beach-like area before).

I think that my idea and your idea are equally as likely.

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Originally Posted by konig des todes

Even though the Ancient Dragons have been spewing out their own magic, and have power that rivals gods, are seemingly ageless, and haven't been awake since before the Giganticus Lupicus?

The gods left at year 0. The Ancient Dragons have been asleep since before the humans arrived on Tyria which was about 200-300 years before year 0. It is said they are older than the giganticus Lupicus which were around about 10,000 years before year 0. I'm sure the Forgotten would have told humans and other races of the Ancient Dragons if they knew of them - they arrived 2,000 years before year 0. Thus, if the Ancient Dragons were ever awake when the current gods were around, it would have been 3,000 to 2,000 years before year 0 - around the same time Glint would have been made as the first creature by the gods.

If the Ancient Dragons and the gods once fought, it wouldn't have been an immediate reason for the gods to leave.

I sort of understand what you're trying to say, but... you're a little confusing... try, prehaps... dumbing down a little...

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Originally Posted by konig des todes

So they expect weaker beings to defeat an enemy stronger than themselves? Doesn't make sense.

I've already explained that.

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23 Jul 2009 at 18:26 - 110

@ Eliz, People defend the blood relative thing via a lie like how magic was distributed.

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Originally Posted by Winnies Bro

I'm sorry but i don't really understand what you're trying to say.

Just that Eliz's theory isn't new and that many people have thought of ways that Glint is related to the Ancient Dragons - primarily Primordus.

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Originally Posted by Winnies Bro

I sort of understand what you're trying to say, but... you're a little confusing... try, prehaps... dumbing down a little...

The Ancient Dragons went into hibernation before all known history and would thus be unable to effect of the event of the gods leaving Tyria known as the Exodus.

Basically, the Ancient Dragons couldn't have any say on the direct reasoning of the gods' leaving Tyria, which would go against a portion of what you said.

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23 Jul 2009 at 18:35 - 111

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

@ Eliz, People defend the blood relative thing via a lie like how magic was distributed.

Oooh. Just another mystery I guess.

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Originally Posted by Winnies Bro
I sort of understand what you're trying to say, but... you're a little confusing... try, prehaps... dumbing down a little...

*dumbed down a little* --> Ancient Dragons --> Giganticus Lupicus --> Gods --> Forgotten --> Humans

Theoretically.