How much does Anet Owe YOU?

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

27 May 2009 at 02:15 - 1
Anet done a lot of things to guild wars, but what are the things that messed you up?

Examples:
  1. You ever lag out after the chest at FoWSC? And you are the one who used cons?
  2. At HoH but rubber banded the shrine run. Was ahead by 2 but realized you all the way near the relic pick up. Cost you the game.
  3. Got the most powerful build and spent 10k on tomes, but got nerfed the next day.
  4. Got a rare green drop, but lagged out before picking it up.
  5. Spent 75k for elite armor, but the rare materials prices spiked on a new update. Now you realize you could have 300k if you didn't use it on the armor.
  6. Spent 100k on a necrid horsemen when mini pets first came out. Three months later, your horsemen price is 20k.
  7. Running SoO, everyone payed you 8k and about to get to boss. Then you lagged for 5 minutes and everyone left, calling you a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing scammer then reported you.

WHAT DOES ANET OWE YOU AND WHY?

My examples:
I think Anet owes me about 400k. I bought mini kuurvang when factions came out for 75k. Sold it in about 1 week, right now it's over 300k. I worked so hard on my PvP warrior. Paid 3k per level in power leveling and got to max. In three days factions came out, leveling has never been easier. Recently I was farming gloom seeds, I lagged and died at least half the time I went. 10k lost to that damn avatar.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

27 May 2009 at 02:19 - 2
when it comes to the examples you have listed above, anet does not owe me, nor anyone else, anything. You've included situations that could well be your internet connection, market forces which anet does not control, skill balances which are needed and expected.

What anet DOES owe ME for was when me, and everyone else who bought the collector's edition of Factions, were locked out of the game for a week because they didn't get the boxes to the retailers soon enough for when factions went live (after the free preview)

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

27 May 2009 at 02:20 - 3
I get something like example 1, but how does anet owe you for selling your mini for too little?

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

27 May 2009 at 02:21 - 4
My life back.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

27 May 2009 at 02:22 - 5
probably 2 million for nerfed equipment, skills, general lagging out, and minipets. I have bought and sold multiple kuunas when they were 100k.

Gigashadow

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

W/

27 May 2009 at 02:25 - 6
GW2 beta + a pony.

brawler

brawler

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2009

The Great White North

Scions Of Carver [SCAR]

W/

27 May 2009 at 02:29 - 7
The things that have happened to you have never happened to me and it is more than likely not Anet's fault. They can't control your internet connection, prices of items, the armors you choose or the skills that you buy. If you bought 10k worth of skills to farm or something of the sort then you are taking a chance it won't get nerfed the next day. They can't control what you buy. Anet doesn't owe me much, maybe a better drop here and there but that's about it.

The Air Revenger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Looking For TA Guild!

W/

27 May 2009 at 02:32 - 8
I want cookies!

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

27 May 2009 at 02:32 - 9
Anet doesnt owe me anything. They have produced a game which I have loved for over 3000 hours now, all for under $200. That pretty much makes up for any drops that I may have lagged out from.

Lord Of Blame

Lord Of Blame

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

USA

Marked Souls [MkS]

E/N

27 May 2009 at 02:35 - 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan View Post
My life back.
LOL...I need mine too.

Kamakazi112

Kamakazi112

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

W/

27 May 2009 at 02:36 - 11
Anet is not the cause for ANY of these

1. You ever lag out after the chest at FoWSC? And you are the one who used cons?

More than half the time its your fault that you lag out

3. Got the most powerful build and spent 10k on tomes, but got nerfed the next day.

POWERFULL BUILD....theres a reason anet nerfs those

4. Got a rare green drop, but lagged out before picking it up.

More than half the time its your fault that you lag out (greens arent worth anything now)

5. Spent 75k for elite armor, but the rare materials prices spiked on a new update. Now you realize you could have 300k if you didn't use it on the armor.

Its not really anets fault that you bought it....its peoples fault because of buying from the merchant.

6. Spent 100k on a necrid horsemen when mini pets first came out. Three months later, your horsemen price is 20k.

Common sense in time more of them come out meaning MORE PETS

7. Running SoO, everyone payed you 8k and about to get to boss. Then you lagged for 5 minutes and everyone left, calling you a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing scammer then reported you.

Yes just cause you lag out....anet tells them to go leave and report you

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

27 May 2009 at 02:36 - 12
No idea, but I'd settle for a superior PvP experience in GW2.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

27 May 2009 at 02:37 - 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan View Post
My life back.
That too

I need to write longer messages to avoid the 12 character limit that this forum so wisely employs.

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

E/

27 May 2009 at 02:41 - 14
http://i40.tinypic.com/2ngtlxt.jpg

Lolz

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

27 May 2009 at 02:43 - 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamakazi112 View Post
Anet is not the cause for ANY of these

1. You ever lag out after the chest at FoWSC? And you are the one who used cons?

More than half the time its your fault that you lag out

3. Got the most powerful build and spent 10k on tomes, but got nerfed the next day.

POWERFULL BUILD....theres a reason anet nerfs those

4. Got a rare green drop, but lagged out before picking it up.

More than half the time its your fault that you lag out (greens arent worth anything now)

5. Spent 75k for elite armor, but the rare materials prices spiked on a new update. Now you realize you could have 300k if you didn't use it on the armor.

Its not really anets fault that you bought it....its peoples fault because of buying from the merchant.

6. Spent 100k on a necrid horsemen when mini pets first came out. Three months later, your horsemen price is 20k.

Common sense in time more of them come out meaning MORE PETS

7. Running SoO, everyone payed you 8k and about to get to boss. Then you lagged for 5 minutes and everyone left, calling you a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing scammer then reported you.

Yes just cause you lag out....anet tells them to go leave and report you
This x100

Other than lagging out due to server problems, ANet doesn't owe you shit for any of them.

Anyways, ANet doesn't owe me anything.

@IcyFiftyFive: All I can say is shitty. That must really suck

Squiffy

Squiffy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

E/

27 May 2009 at 02:48 - 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive View Post
Ouch, that is harsh. But, lol gg.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

27 May 2009 at 02:48 - 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar View Post
Anet doesnt owe me anything. They have produced a game which I have loved for over 3000 hours now, all for under $200. That pretty much makes up for any drops that I may have lagged out from.
This.
/12chars

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

27 May 2009 at 02:49 - 18
Anet owes me one free makeover. Remember when they had the update to make the lips of the characters move at the end of mission cinematic? They seriously screwed up some toons that time. One free makeover for all!

talon994

talon994

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

Ontario,Canada

聖光麒麟

W/

27 May 2009 at 03:13 - 19
OMG that eternal blade is epic. . on the other hand ANET owes me nothing.....yet

TheBuck

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

27 May 2009 at 03:13 - 20
A cake that is not a lie? I mean really, they owe you nothing.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

27 May 2009 at 03:48 - 21
I'd like to say something about the Greased and Z-Keys I lost in late February with a bunch of other people's things, but I was never certain whose fault that was after all.

Other than that, there is nothing notable I can think of that ANet "owes" me.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

27 May 2009 at 03:57 - 22
More retroactive changes like the lip-synch, Prophecies endgame area or the spear and scythes in Factions.
When they add new cool stuff is like entering a bright room. When you go back to old campaigns everything's seems emptier and incomplete.

Ah! And 5 survivors. When you disconnect, the server should put your character on 'cinematic stasis'. Can't damage enemies, can't die, don't earn exp and stay like that until you reconnect.

Masmar

Masmar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Aberdeen, Scotland

We Gat Dis [HRUU]

E/

27 May 2009 at 04:07 - 23
5,000 hours

12 chars

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

27 May 2009 at 04:22 - 24
Im square with anet, but if they keep trying to give us free large updates just to trick us into buying gw2, I may end up owing them.

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

27 May 2009 at 04:31 - 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor View Post
Examples:
  1. You ever lag out after the chest at FoWSC? And you are the one who used cons?
  2. At HoH but rubber banded the shrine run. Was ahead by 2 but realized you all the way near the relic pick up. Cost you the game.
  3. Got the most powerful build and spent 10k on tomes, but got nerfed the next day.
  4. Got a rare green drop, but lagged out before picking it up.
  5. Spent 75k for elite armor, but the rare materials prices spiked on a new update. Now you realize you could have 300k if you didn't use it on the armor.
  6. Spent 100k on a necrid horsemen when mini pets first came out. Three months later, your horsemen price is 20k.
  7. Running SoO, everyone payed you 8k and about to get to boss. Then you lagged for 5 minutes and everyone left, calling you a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing scammer then reported you.
1: Lag happens. Reconnect. If you can't reconnect, oh well. It isn't A-net's fault your connection blows.

2: See 1. Your connection stinks. Oh well, get in line. You're not the only one.

3: See 1 and 2.

4: Price fluxes happen. It's the glory and downfall of a player based market. A-net won't say, "This is what this is worth, and if you don't like it, tough." Just to keep people like you from Q_Qing over it. It happens.

5: See 4. Simple economics. Low supply but high demand: Prices skyrocket. After the market is saturated with a few more, the demand will go down because the supply is so high. High supply, low demand: low price. It always happens when something is new.

6: See 1, 2, & 3. Also, if your connection stinks as much as it does (And if you're well aware of this), you shouldn't be running.
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My connection blows. I've lost out on a lot of stuff because of it. But A-net isn't my ISP and I can't blame them for my crappy connection. Unfortunately, it's the only ISP I'll ever have because there not any other internet suppliers out where I live (Where civilization ends in so-cal.).

All in all, they don't owe you, me, or anyone else that plays this game anything.

Baw more.

Antares Ascending

Antares Ascending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

E/

27 May 2009 at 04:58 - 26
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As likely as not your ISP lagged.

Selling an item not knowing it would be worth more at some point is just life...btw, an unded kuni doesn't go for 300k unless prices have spiked hugely recently.

Buy a spiffy car...one that costs a bit but is a very popular one, park it and maintain it in a garage for 50 years...profit! ..or use it and sell it for a fraction of the cost after 5 years..your choice..

Anet owes me nufin. I got a great game for a reasonable price and have spent hundreds of hours playing it. The hourly rate for play is near zip...good deal

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

27 May 2009 at 05:03 - 27
I've had gold things drop up in Riverside Province towers so I couldn't get them. I've bought things only to see their value plummet the next day. I've lost survivors due to lagspikes on Anet's end. I missed out on quite a few draconic scythes because I beat Factions before their release. I'm still annoyed that EOTN dungeons are made up of reused bits and the armor is all reskins. Don't get me started on that bonus mission pack fiasco.

But Anet owes me nothing.

Aussie Boy

Aussie Boy

Alcoholic

Join Date: Mar 2007

Australia

W/

27 May 2009 at 05:16 - 28
Nothin as I have had my moneys worth playing THERE game for 4 years.
If my connection is flaky and I lose things like examples in OP well thats my problem not Anet's.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

27 May 2009 at 06:06 - 29
All those lag things are your fault, no point discussing those.

Did get screwed over by Anet for not being able to play the Factions event thing with the tengu mask because they shipped it late or something though.

Boneyard Spleeneater

Boneyard Spleeneater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Seattle

Immortal Corruptors [GWAR]

Me/N

27 May 2009 at 06:50 - 30
2000+ hrs at $25 an hour (rough estimate, it's how much I charged as a mover; I am worth much more now as an engineer).

That's a lot of scratch. WTF though, gamers will be gamers, eh?

I had a boss tell me that a 12 hour gaming binge I went on was a waste of time. I didn't say anything, but it occured to me that I could've spent that time driving around a five acre lot on a tractor digging ditches that will be filled in by erosion in 100 years (like him).

When GW isn't fun, I will quit playing and play another game. Or maybe watch a movie, read a book, or go fly my kite.

EDIT: Here is a neat link posted on a web comic that is somewhat relevant. I don't think it's exactly the same (since games are more of a product than art, although there are elements of both in them), but the sentiment holds somewhat.

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

Lords Of Noh [LoN]

Me/

27 May 2009 at 07:09 - 31
Gotta say Anet owes me one thing.

earlier today we had a server wide Disconnect. Server went down, then came back up.

FoW, on my way to open my chest.......... disconnect. >.<

All in all, they've been good to me.

Divine Ashes

Divine Ashes

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chicago

LFG

R/

27 May 2009 at 07:45 - 32
Over the 4 years I've played, I'd say ANET has been really good to me. I cant blame lag problems on then (most of the time), and I don't remember anything in particular that stands out as a huge let down...

...Maybe spending (a possible) 2 million gold on ZKeys and not getting ANYTHING the least bit useful/valuable?

Even then, I have notoriously bad luck as it is.

greyhawk

greyhawk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

IGN : Greyhawks Destroyer

guildless

W/

27 May 2009 at 07:49 - 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive View Post
lol i remember when this happened, e-blades were worth like 4-5x what they are now :P that was funny

to stay with thread, ANET owes me nothing, if anything i owe them more for 5000+ hours of game play, enjoyment and fun. hell nothing in my life other then beer has given me that much joy. and well i owe a dying liver to beer.

so ANET to you i offer my eyes for starring into the computer monitor for all those hours, or even my hands from all the typing and mouse clicking.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

27 May 2009 at 07:50 - 34
millions for loot scaling

DJCoastal

DJCoastal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Vancouver, BC, Canada

Mo/

27 May 2009 at 08:00 - 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan View Post
my life back.
DEFIANTLY!!!!!!! and all those ectos and black dyes I accidentally merched so many times due to stupid lags... T_T

wetwillyhip

wetwillyhip

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA, Southern California, Orange County

Tyrian Elements [TyE]

R/Mo

27 May 2009 at 08:23 - 36
i think Anet should owe me back all the time I've spent playing a game that since revolved around a single invincible skill. Oh yeah, uhmm... that would be about a year ago. (that's something that was Anet's fault).

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

27 May 2009 at 08:44 - 37
Anet owes me nothing except for two parts of monk FoW armor maybe (chest piece + legs) and I'll explain why.

I bought my fow armor back in the days and used shiny blue dye mix. In the old colour charts it was purple + orange. So after a while of farming I was able to buy my first 3 spare parts (1 x gloves and 2 x shoes). Everything was ok and I could still dye them in the appropriate colour.

After a couple of weeks I saved enough to get the second chest and legs piece, but they changed the monk armor overnight without mentioning it to the playerbase. The following day I go out there, lost around a million for those 2 pieces at the time only to find out I couldn't dye them in the same colour anymore.

I contacted tech support, that they didn't put the info out before the update and that I couldn't colour it anymore, which was the real problem, not the gold I waisted. I got replies from 3 people working at Anet that they acknowledged the situation, but couldn't do a thing for me. Till this day it has its effects as the armour will show up as basic brown in the HoM, while it's metalic shiny blue.

Anet owes me 2 shiny blue FoW armor pieces. And if I had known that they would change the monk armor overnight, I would quickly have bought the pieces a day earlier.

kedde

kedde

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]

Mo/A

27 May 2009 at 09:04 - 38
I like to think they owe me a couple exciting world championships.

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

27 May 2009 at 09:10 - 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan View Post
My life back.
you beat me to it!

gg

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

27 May 2009 at 09:19 - 40
They owe me nothing.

Alright, maybe a beer or two.