if you want discord do something like [assasin's promise][you move like a dwarf][finish him][pain inverter]...
put 12 deadly arts,12expertise
with ap you should have enough energy to spam ymlad en finish him with ap on every target
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WTF Ooze Pits in HM with h/h
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Look, my point being is that this dungeon can't be done in HM with h/h. If I can't do it with Discordway, then nothing can.
So many things wrong with this sentence.
Try running...I dunno...something OTHER then premade builds? I hear there are many other heroes to try out. could be wrong.
Try running...I dunno...something OTHER then premade builds? I hear there are many other heroes to try out. could be wrong.
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Buddy ...
Discordway may be strong and universal, but there is one definite time when it fails: a lack of bodies. Are there lots of bodies in Ooze Pit? I didn't think so! Run something else. The dungeon is not hard, the mobs have so much less staying power than the balanced Charr or Stone Summit teams in Rragar's and Vloxen's.
Discordway may be strong and universal, but there is one definite time when it fails: a lack of bodies. Are there lots of bodies in Ooze Pit? I didn't think so! Run something else. The dungeon is not hard, the mobs have so much less staying power than the balanced Charr or Stone Summit teams in Rragar's and Vloxen's.
Minions are a part of the D-way setup, without corpse exploitation, you have no meat shields, less energy management, and less damage.
Also with D-way, you need to be able to apply a condition and a hex, if running D-way on my ranger i use the generic AP caller.
Anyway, learn to play, if you spec your heroes to the required area, you can always beat it more easily/faster than D-way. D-way is just a generic setup that can manage MOST areas without to much trouble.
Also with D-way, you need to be able to apply a condition and a hex, if running D-way on my ranger i use the generic AP caller.
Anyway, learn to play, if you spec your heroes to the required area, you can always beat it more easily/faster than D-way. D-way is just a generic setup that can manage MOST areas without to much trouble.
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
I was doing the z-bounty that involves me going into the Ooze Pits and come into the conclusion that it is impossible in HM. I was trying to do this without using any consumables whatsoever and was using Discordway, which is supposed to be a universal build to use in HM (and my henchies were Talon Silverwnig, Eve, Mhenlo, and Lina). The problem being is that I keep getting wiped so many times, mostly because of Volatile Oozes popping out of nowhere. Pulling is nearly impossible in HM and the enemy AI is always smarter than the h/h AI in HM. Therefore this dungeon is impossible in HM with using h/h.
EDIT: I was using a ranger using [broad head arrow] and [pain inverter]. The purpose of that is to keep the Earthbind Oozes dazed and have the boss kill itself with it's AoE damage.
Discordway on Ooze Pit?? LOL at you because if you did it in NM you know better that this dungeon in particular lack in corpses so there is something call COMMON SENSE and it is possible to do the dungeon without consumibles and without discordway the key of that dungeon is patience + pulling = FTW
and here is my proof of how I made the dungeon without cons and without discordway gw282.jpg , shit happens when you try to kill prismatic ooze plus the ones that pop-up when you defeat one prismatic so LOL at impossible the dungeon in HM
EDIT: I was using a ranger using [broad head arrow] and [pain inverter]. The purpose of that is to keep the Earthbind Oozes dazed and have the boss kill itself with it's AoE damage.
Discordway on Ooze Pit?? LOL at you because if you did it in NM you know better that this dungeon in particular lack in corpses so there is something call COMMON SENSE and it is possible to do the dungeon without consumibles and without discordway the key of that dungeon is patience + pulling = FTW
and here is my proof of how I made the dungeon without cons and without discordway gw282.jpg , shit happens when you try to kill prismatic ooze plus the ones that pop-up when you defeat one prismatic so LOL at impossible the dungeon in HMn
Ooze Pit is one of the easiest dungeons. But I find out what were you doing wrong.
1. You think Discordway is the Omnipotent build when it doesn't.
2. Do some homework instead of going shopping builds at PVX.
3. If you did Ooze pit in Normal Mode you got first hand knowledge and got an idea what to wait in Hard Mode.
4. Your build honestly suck, my main is a Ranger and when i saw that build i almost die of a heart attack. What do you expect to interrupt so hard? kuunavang, glint, the great destroyer? to get 3 interupts plus Broad Head Arrow plus apply poison(no flesh foes), besides if you expect to kill foes with PI then why daze them or interupt them, plus no self healing. LOL P.S. (one last thing, How many times your energy drop to zero?)
Dude delete your ranger and switch to another profession before you hurt yourself and those around you and if not delete Guild Wars and move to another MMO according to your IQ.
1. You think Discordway is the Omnipotent build when it doesn't.
2. Do some homework instead of going shopping builds at PVX.
3. If you did Ooze pit in Normal Mode you got first hand knowledge and got an idea what to wait in Hard Mode.
4. Your build honestly suck, my main is a Ranger and when i saw that build i almost die of a heart attack. What do you expect to interrupt so hard? kuunavang, glint, the great destroyer? to get 3 interupts plus Broad Head Arrow plus apply poison(no flesh foes), besides if you expect to kill foes with PI then why daze them or interupt them, plus no self healing. LOL P.S. (one last thing, How many times your energy drop to zero?)
Dude delete your ranger and switch to another profession before you hurt yourself and those around you and if not delete Guild Wars and move to another MMO according to your IQ.
L2Search the forums before asserting nonsense about impossibilities. There's a couple threads out there with suggestions - I got through it fine HM H/H. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10213832
I think discord isn't the greatest for this dungeon as it requires taking targets down 1 at a time. However, you encounter lots of large mobs that grow larger (!), yet stay more-or-less balled up. Better to bring AOE damage and AOE interruption, [barrage] and [warmonger's weapon] works wonders (as do [splinter weapon] and [mark of pain]), along with [ward against elements]/[ward against harm]. How about something like [deep freeze][maelstrom] (sounds like an Ele hero might work here)? [ebon vanguard assassin support] as initial attack might help keep them immobilized while initiating massive AOE, followed perhaps (or replaced?) by [tryptophan signet].
It's been a while since I did this dungeon, but I remember it was very quick - semi-careful pulling, and the mobs were dead pretty fast. The hardest part was the end - I set up about 2 aggro circles away and tried pulling 1 by one and calling targets.
I think discord isn't the greatest for this dungeon as it requires taking targets down 1 at a time. However, you encounter lots of large mobs that grow larger (!), yet stay more-or-less balled up. Better to bring AOE damage and AOE interruption, [barrage] and [warmonger's weapon] works wonders (as do [splinter weapon] and [mark of pain]), along with [ward against elements]/[ward against harm]. How about something like [deep freeze][maelstrom] (sounds like an Ele hero might work here)? [ebon vanguard assassin support] as initial attack might help keep them immobilized while initiating massive AOE, followed perhaps (or replaced?) by [tryptophan signet].
It's been a while since I did this dungeon, but I remember it was very quick - semi-careful pulling, and the mobs were dead pretty fast. The hardest part was the end - I set up about 2 aggro circles away and tried pulling 1 by one and calling targets.
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Well....discordway AND sabway sucks in this dungeon because there's no corpse! No amount of modding will let those 2 builds get through the dungeon easily. Since I hate playing the "careful pulling" game, I did a fevered dream conditionway build...and just rush into a mob and AoE daze + blind + other conditions them all, then all I had to worry about are the volatile oozes.
Another option would be ROJway, although you'll probably die more often.
Just keep tweaking builds, eventually you'll find something that can blow through the dungeon quickly without pulling too much.
Another option would be ROJway, although you'll probably die more often.
Just keep tweaking builds, eventually you'll find something that can blow through the dungeon quickly without pulling too much.
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Originally Posted by Ensign
For almost every zone there's something better...
I'm reading that for every area, there's a build tailored to that specific area which is faster than discordway. While that may be true (and may even be a discord variant), the time it takes to construct such a build more than offsets the time gained from the actual VQ.
If that's not what you're saying, please define "something better," which in context, is an H/H team build that is not only faster, but faster in more areas than discordway.
If that's not what you're saying, please define "something better," which in context, is an H/H team build that is not only faster, but faster in more areas than discordway.
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I just did it with a three-hero combination of N/Rt resto, command para, and domination mes. (The henches were the two EotN monks, Devona, and Zho.) Wasn't even that hard. The only thing moderately annoying was the aggressive oozes' blocking ability, for which next time I'd probably bring a N/Rt curser with [defile defenses] instead of the domination mesmer.
Don't take on more oozes than you need to, and you'll be fine. Pull as needed. You'll deal with a whole army of little oozes at the end, as you kill the prismatic oozes one by one and they spawn their little offspring, but so what--they're not particularly difficult.
Don't take on more oozes than you need to, and you'll be fine. Pull as needed. You'll deal with a whole army of little oozes at the end, as you kill the prismatic oozes one by one and they spawn their little offspring, but so what--they're not particularly difficult.
Despite this being more than 2 months old, it got a pointless revival and I note a complete lack of screenies.
Quote: Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Quote: Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Look, my point being is that this dungeon can't be done in HM with h/h. If I can't do it with Discordway, then nothing can.
A wonderful troll statement that can so easily be proven false.
Took me a little while to get used to the tanking required - flag henchmen and heroes back, micro Prot Spirit and Spirit Bond and take aggro, Heroes and Henchmen nuke.
Ogden was basically a waste of time, he kept dying and Zhed's energy management was poor, but I felt I really needed two copies of Prot Spirit.
I messed up a lot at the start, but eventually managed to work off almost all of the DP by the time I got to the Prismatic Oozes (save Ogden's). With some pulling I managed to kill one and almost wiped at the mob that spawned. Next time I pulled both and couldn't isolate one and kill it (they spammed Gelatinous Absorption too much), so I accidently killed both at the same time with Cry of Pain. Wiped at spawned mob, but after the res it was no problem pulling them one by one to clear the area around the chest.
No cons, though I was tempted to use my Powerstone at times.
Took me a little while to get used to the tanking required - flag henchmen and heroes back, micro Prot Spirit and Spirit Bond and take aggro, Heroes and Henchmen nuke.
Ogden was basically a waste of time, he kept dying and Zhed's energy management was poor, but I felt I really needed two copies of Prot Spirit.
I messed up a lot at the start, but eventually managed to work off almost all of the DP by the time I got to the Prismatic Oozes (save Ogden's). With some pulling I managed to kill one and almost wiped at the mob that spawned. Next time I pulled both and couldn't isolate one and kill it (they spammed Gelatinous Absorption too much), so I accidently killed both at the same time with Cry of Pain. Wiped at spawned mob, but after the res it was no problem pulling them one by one to clear the area around the chest.
No cons, though I was tempted to use my Powerstone at times.