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kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

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11 Jun 2009 at 23:22 - 1

Updated Zaishen Rewards
*Updated the Zaishen Chest drops to replace the Phantasmal Tonic with the Automatonic for the month of June. More information on Zaishen Rewards can be found here.

Automated Tournaments
*Updated Automated Tournament map rotations.

Bug Fixes
*Fixed a bug that allowed players to have multiple copies of the Heroes' Ascent Zaishen Combat Quest.
*Fixed a bug that caused effects that are conditional upon critical hits to trigger even if critical hits were prevented with a skill.
*Fixed a bug that caused "We Shall Return!" to affect allies instead of party members.
*Fixed a bug that caused Res Orbs to resurrect dead NPCs in Alliance Battles.

Miscellaneous
*Budger Blackpowder will now wait a few seconds between dispensing Powder Kegs in Explorable Areas.
*The Merchants in the Great Temple of Balthazar now offer late-game items.
*Added a confirmation box for Name Changes.
*Removed festival decorations from Kaineng Center and Shing Jea Monastery.
*The Treasure Hunter and Wisdom title tracks now count toward Favor of the Gods.
*Reduced the Zaishen Coin reward for the Hero Battles Zaishen Combat quest.

I'm confused... Despite the zkeys beeing delayed until next week, aren't we still supposed to get the skill balance today? And damn it, they removed Kaineng City and Shing Jea decorations.

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Admin Edit: Some more info as well as I'm sure these questions will come up a lot:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina

We're doing some backend work on the Xunlai Tournament House, so the points weren't distributed today.

And as you can see, there's no skill update today. We can't discuss exact timelines or scheduling about this, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin

We are looking at RoJ, we will change RoJ, and we also look at other skills at the moment - and when we say we cannot discuss time lines, than that is exactly what it means: we cannot discuss timelines.

The reason for this: Things change/ need a second pass/ need more QA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Originally Posted by sup bruh its sam

what i think is really funny is they say they are going to do updates for pvp love, but yet not a single skill update, but just press b warriors running weaken knees. hmm not op? its like why do they even bother lying? I am really surprised they still have their jobs with the economy being so bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin

It might be possible that when Linsey says "we want to do PvP love" that she is talking about something that we want to do in the future/coming months. It does not mean "immediately"

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

11 Jun 2009 at 23:24 - 2

lolz nothing i think, no points or skill change?

Elle Bishop

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Death by [Emo], And Haus of [GaGa]

E/Me

11 Jun 2009 at 23:25 - 3

I don't think there was a skill update maybe something for XTH.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

11 Jun 2009 at 23:25 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by aefghuys

good question... i noticed u can get your zaishen tourney points

No you can't, Kun Shao ALWAYS has a count down after every update.

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:28 - 5

i read somewhere on the forum, that regina mentioned that there will be no tourney points this week or something like that. so basically completely useless update.

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

11 Jun 2009 at 23:28 - 6

*Removed festival decorations from Kaineng Center and Shing Jea Monastery.

Yay!

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:29 - 7

I know Regina said points will be given out later, but no skill balance? Hmm.

Nothing interesting, although they nerfed keg farming, haha.

Banane-O-Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

A/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:29 - 8

No more keg farming yay.

WHOEVER ASKS where are the skills and xunlai points, it has been delayed one week.

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:30 - 9

There goes keg farming. Glad I got my Wisdom title (although it would have been nicer to have it count for favor, which it only NOW does)

Curious what 'late-game items' are, and how they are acquired

Strange that the tonic changed yet Zkeys aren't being handed out

Lastly...WHERE IS THE MONTH-DELAYED SKILL BALANCE??????????????

edit: another thought about the keg farming nerf. This is another case where if something seems imba, you better take advantage of it hardcore until it offers you no benefit, because the rug may be pulled out from under you. GW is littered with the dead corpses of exploits that were left unaddressed for a while, to where people took for granted that they were working as intended, only to be nerfed out of nowhere unexpectedly.

Lyphen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

11 Jun 2009 at 23:31 - 10

I really wish we'd get more info from their community team, it pains me to never know what to expect. And then get garbage like this.

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

W/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:31 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banane-O-Man

No more keg farming yay.

WHOEVER ASKS where are the skills and xunlai points, it has been delayed one week.

As far as I know, Regina only said the zkeys would be delayed, not the skill changes. So people are expecting it today.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:32 - 12

Hahahahahahah I broke the thread so bad.

It's fixed anyhow.

Interesting (bad) update. lol keg farming? lol HA zaishen quest?

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:33 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banane-O-Man

No more keg farming yay.

WHOEVER ASKS where are the skills and xunlai points, it has been delayed one week.

No one ever said the skill balance was going to be delayed, only the points.

sportacus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

Burninating the countryside

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11 Jun 2009 at 23:33 - 14

I had only just started to discover Keg farming. Oh well. That's what I expected

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:34 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by kupp

As far as I know, Regina only said the zkeys would be delayed, not the skill changes. So people are expecting it today.

They shouldn't considering for the past year or so Skill updates were always 1 week after tourny points. Skill update AND points next week prolly.

*edit* NOOOOO my Kmart decorations! *cries*

Oh well...It was nice while it lasted.

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

11 Jun 2009 at 23:34 - 16

Wow, they took down the decorations in Kaineng Center... IMO the place looked so much better with it. Where is the skill balance... >.<

reaper with no name

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

FaZ

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11 Jun 2009 at 23:35 - 17

...

...That's it?

^
I think that sums up most people's feelings towards this update (if you can call it that).

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:36 - 18

How long is the wait on keg spawn?

Lame update, hoping skill update is better.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:36 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc2123

They shouldn't considering for the past year or so Skill updates were always 1 week after tourny points. Skill update AND points next week prolly.

For the past year or so skill updates were always the second Thursday of the month, unless they were delayed. It's the second Thursday of the month, no one said the skill update was going to be delayed. So yes, people should expect it.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:36 - 20

I closed the june skill balance discussion thread, and linked to this one, so that everyone can discuss THE DISTINCT LACK OF A SKILL BALANCE.

Come on ANet, step yo game up. Yeeeaaahhhhhhhh.

DoomFrost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

E/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:36 - 21

Man, I liked the decorations in Kaineng. It was actually nice walking through the city.

GW Karasu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

11 Jun 2009 at 23:36 - 22

"Budger Blackpowder will now wait a few seconds between dispensing Powder Kegs in"

Vaettir got nerfed? ='( QQ come on ANet.. We didn't need this. The farming code does enough to stop that. Ele's and Dervs can still farm m anyway! The farm is GENIOUS and the run itself is a challenge enough!

<--- very sad

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

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11 Jun 2009 at 23:37 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc2123

They shouldn't considering for the past year or so Skill updates were always 1 week after tourny points. Skill update AND points next week prolly.

*edit* NOOOOO my Kmart decorations! *cries*

Oh well...It was nice while it lasted.

Right but those are in 'normal circunstances', when Regina warned about the delay, she specifically said zkeys and never mentioned the skill changes, even though people asked here.

And yeah, removing the decorations really sucked. Kaineng looked beautiful at dusk, it had such a serene atmosphere to it... Too bad it's gone.

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:37 - 24

We're doing some backend work on the Xunlai Tournament House, so the points weren't distributed today.

And as you can see, there's no skill update today. We can't discuss exact timelines or scheduling about this, though.

mmmkay i am bad

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

hiding in ur basement =o

W/Rt

11 Jun 2009 at 23:38 - 25

wonder y they decided to nerf keg farm this late

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:38 - 26

ZQuests changed lol.

Kendel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2009

11 Jun 2009 at 23:38 - 27

fenix failed ><

What a pointless update. Everyone just rushed to find out what skills have been changed to be met with this crap.

Stranger The Ranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Those Netherlands

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

R/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:38 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper with no name

...

...That's it?

^
I think that sums up most people's feelings towards this update (if you can call it that).

You pretty much hit the nail on the head
In my case, it was followed by a /facepalm

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

R/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:39 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puebert

How long is the wait on keg spawn?

4-5 sec. Now I want my 100g back

dusanyu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Illusion of skillz [Iz]

W/E

11 Jun 2009 at 23:39 - 30

Over nine Thousand icy points for making PvE farmers QQ but no Skill Balance makes me take those icy points back

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

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11 Jun 2009 at 23:39 - 31

Thanks for the heads up Regina. But can you gives us a rough date, are we to expect the skill update in two weeks, or next week with the XHT?

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:40 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

We're doing some backend work on the Xunlai Tournament House, so the points weren't distributed today.

And as you can see, there's no skill update today. We can't discuss exact timelines or scheduling about this, though.

Wow....so, a month delayed, now there's no plan for one at all?

FAIL

is this a signal that GW is dying?

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:40 - 33

Z quests were changed lol

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

PM me for JACT Invite

Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

11 Jun 2009 at 23:40 - 34

Soo really you mean, We really don't know because don't have it.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

11 Jun 2009 at 23:40 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

And as you can see, there's no skill update today. We can't discuss exact timelines or scheduling about this, though.

the best kind of surprise is disappointment

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

I know Regina said points will be given out later, but no skill balance? Hmm.

i guess folks missed this http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=122

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phenixfire

Res Orbs no longer res NPCs in Alliance Battles?

i thought thats what they were meant for

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:41 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendel

fenix failed ><

What a pointless update. Everyone just rushed to find out what skills have been changed to be met with this crap.

I totally did. But way worse than you would have seen, I ruuuiiiineeed the thread hahahahahah.

Fixed now though

ALSO:

Terrible, terrible response ANet. You can't just NOT do a skill balance (which are ALWAYS done unless a good reason is given) and then not give a good reason. Poor form.

Phenixfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Malice Dedication Ambition [MAD]

Mo/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:42 - 37

Res Orbs no longer res NPCs in Alliance Battles?

IN YOUR FACE!!!111112111bbq

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

11 Jun 2009 at 23:42 - 38

facepalm.jpg, tbh.

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

11 Jun 2009 at 23:42 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

And as you can see, there's no skill update today. We can't discuss exact timelines or scheduling about this, though.

So... RoJ bug is still untouched but the Ghost Bird farming got nerfed? Plus you don't know when a skill balance will be?

Shame...

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

11 Jun 2009 at 23:43 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

For the past year or so skill updates were always the second Thursday of the month, unless they were delayed. It's the second Thursday of the month, no one said the skill update was going to be delayed. So yes, people should expect it.

If memory serves me right, I think we've had just as many skill updates on the third Thursday of the month compared to the second. Hell, maybe even more the week before an MAT (third Thursday).