Better then Keg Farming?
brawler
Well after the recent Keg farming nerf most of you insane farmers are wondering, "Where can I get all my drop event items now?". However someone showed me a possible better farm that could be better then keg farming. I personally like it more and you get to brush the dust off those old warriors and put them to use.
Well where do you think this farm could be? Check out this video I made and take a look for yourself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EtbPwAU7ns
Follow the video and you will regain your drops
Enjoy!
*Disclaimer*
I know that there are other raptor farming builds and I know warrior raptor is not something new. I am ask for your opinion on whether warrior raptor farming is better kegging or any other farming builds.
Well where do you think this farm could be? Check out this video I made and take a look for yourself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EtbPwAU7ns
Follow the video and you will regain your drops
Enjoy!
*Disclaimer*
I know that there are other raptor farming builds and I know warrior raptor is not something new. I am ask for your opinion on whether warrior raptor farming is better kegging or any other farming builds.
Daesu
Nothing new. I have tried the warrior build and ele build long time before and I find the ele build to be better. At least you can kill the boss with the ele build and not have to die.
Ebony Shadowheart
Raptor farming.....nothing new. Been doing it for quite some time.
I find the ele build to be quicker and more effective, considering it can kill the boss, than the other builds available.
I find the ele build to be quicker and more effective, considering it can kill the boss, than the other builds available.
makosi
THAN*
This build has been around for a while but I suck at using it for some reason. Keg farming was virtually risk-free and required little effort or concentration whereas this 100Blades build needs focus and timing rather than 1, 2, 3, spam kegs.
This will probably become the new event item farm however.
This build has been around for a while but I suck at using it for some reason. Keg farming was virtually risk-free and required little effort or concentration whereas this 100Blades build needs focus and timing rather than 1, 2, 3, spam kegs.
This will probably become the new event item farm however.
Icy The Mage
As I'm sure you know , during the past several event weekends for pies/ciders/cupcakes/apples/eggs/bunnies etc... I've spent over 17 hours a day farming both Raptors & Vaettir via. Hundred Blades for raptors and Perma Sin for kegging. (and I can guarantee you -- taking leechers does not increase your droprate of loot-scaled items -_-)
Although THEORETICALLY you actually kill more raptors than vaettir, I actually got more event item drops doing Keg Farming.
To put it into perspective; at top speeds
It takes about 55s to do a raptor farm which includes;run to cave gather aggro wait for aggro to settle & kill (33 enemies) loot resign load into town run out, load into rata sum
Now with Vaettir, it took about (with a perfect build) 87s to do a full run, which again, includes;Load into Jaga Aggro + Cast perma Ball everything (36 enemies) - Balling all 60 at the same time, or the other 24 after, no matter what, increases average kill time per enemy, no matter how you do it. Step + keg spam Loot Run to exit & load Turn around and load back into Jaga
So they are both a full cycle, no skewed results here.
So in the same amount of time, you are killing approximately .600 raptors every second, and .414 vaettir ever second.
It equates out to killing 45 raptors, but only 31 vaettir in 75seconds.
In my "experiment" doing keg-bombing actually gave me more (how is this possible?) event items by about 1.5x (2stack / 2hr from raptors vs 3stacks / 2hr from kegging)
It works out to about every 8.5 raptors drop an event item, and every 4 vaettir drop an event item.
tl;dr:
Although raptors SHOULD drop more event items, vaettir drop more than twice as many. If you can farm 36 vaettir in about 1:45 or less, do it.
Although THEORETICALLY you actually kill more raptors than vaettir, I actually got more event item drops doing Keg Farming.
To put it into perspective; at top speeds
It takes about 55s to do a raptor farm which includes;run to cave gather aggro wait for aggro to settle & kill (33 enemies) loot resign load into town run out, load into rata sum
Now with Vaettir, it took about (with a perfect build) 87s to do a full run, which again, includes;Load into Jaga Aggro + Cast perma Ball everything (36 enemies) - Balling all 60 at the same time, or the other 24 after, no matter what, increases average kill time per enemy, no matter how you do it. Step + keg spam Loot Run to exit & load Turn around and load back into Jaga
So they are both a full cycle, no skewed results here.
So in the same amount of time, you are killing approximately .600 raptors every second, and .414 vaettir ever second.
It equates out to killing 45 raptors, but only 31 vaettir in 75seconds.
In my "experiment" doing keg-bombing actually gave me more (how is this possible?) event items by about 1.5x (2stack / 2hr from raptors vs 3stacks / 2hr from kegging)
It works out to about every 8.5 raptors drop an event item, and every 4 vaettir drop an event item.
tl;dr:
Although raptors SHOULD drop more event items, vaettir drop more than twice as many. If you can farm 36 vaettir in about 1:45 or less, do it.
Shayne Hawke
-1 internets for believing that Raptor farming is something new. Also, I would wager that this build is more effective than yours.
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*Disclaimer*
I know that there are other raptor farming builds and I know warrior raptor is not something new. I am ask for your opinion on whether warrior raptor farming is better kegging or any other farming builds. Nah.
I know that there are other raptor farming builds and I know warrior raptor is not something new. I am ask for your opinion on whether warrior raptor farming is better kegging or any other farming builds. Nah.
Nessar
Raptor farming has been around since eotn came out. Thanks for the effort though :P
TheBuck
-100 to IcyFiftyFive for farming 17hrs a day.
There is nothing to new any of the farming areas or ideas if you have been playing for the 4yrs that the game has been out.
There is nothing to new any of the farming areas or ideas if you have been playing for the 4yrs that the game has been out.
Xsiriss
Hey guys, I think he just won GW?
Just bbq...seriously have you never entered rata sum or been in the GW community since eotn? It isn't even that profitable, leeching with henchies definitely does not improve it either.
Just bbq...seriously have you never entered rata sum or been in the GW community since eotn? It isn't even that profitable, leeching with henchies definitely does not improve it either.
brawler
I know raptor farming is not new and I know this build is not new. I am simply asking what you people think is better and what you think of it. Lawl at all the hate
My New Name
lol raptor farming so old news and this warrior build looks inferior to the ele
nice job :P
nice job :P
Icy The Mage
Finished my first post.
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lol raptor farming so old news and this warrior build looks inferior to the ele
nice job :P The Warrior build farms 32/33 guys in 55seconds, the Ele build farms 29-31+ the boss, 30-32 (which is pointless in the case of event items, as noted in the OP) in 1:25.
Maybe I'm missing something, but killing a couple more enemies in 2/3 the time sure seems more effective to me.
nice job :P The Warrior build farms 32/33 guys in 55seconds, the Ele build farms 29-31+ the boss, 30-32 (which is pointless in the case of event items, as noted in the OP) in 1:25.
Maybe I'm missing something, but killing a couple more enemies in 2/3 the time sure seems more effective to me.
lilDeath
RAS
Raptors is the big thing again, after the kegging nerf (/fail Anet)
btw - Kegging was better imo. Funner too (yes, that's a word).
Raptors is the big thing again, after the kegging nerf (/fail Anet)
btw - Kegging was better imo. Funner too (yes, that's a word).
kupp
Raptors aren't anything new. At first when I saw the 90 seconds for a whole run, I thought that was hella slow since I could already do it in less than a minute. Then I noticed you actually kill every single raptor in the cave, something that I can't. Will give it a try and see if the extra 30-40 seconds pay off.
Btw can you tell us the number of raptors killed on average?
Btw can you tell us the number of raptors killed on average?
Martin Alvito
1) As other posters have noted, raptor farming isn't exactly new. It was the most common event item farm for the first year of EotN.
2) Raptor farming is slower than keg farming. IceFiftyFive is correct that it was faster to just kill the group of 36 but is incorrect about the speed. You could complete a full cycle in 60-75 seconds, depending on the number of drops. The trick was to take Shadow of Haste and Dwarven Stability on the bar, set up SoH near the res shrine after putting up SF, and cast the 2nd SF without using Swiftness or Paradox.
2) Raptor farming is slower than keg farming. IceFiftyFive is correct that it was faster to just kill the group of 36 but is incorrect about the speed. You could complete a full cycle in 60-75 seconds, depending on the number of drops. The trick was to take Shadow of Haste and Dwarven Stability on the bar, set up SoH near the res shrine after putting up SF, and cast the 2nd SF without using Swiftness or Paradox.
Icy The Mage
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
2) Raptor farming is slower than keg farming. IceFiftyFive is correct that it was faster to just kill the group of 36 but is incorrect about the speed. You could complete a full cycle in 60-75 seconds, depending on the number of drops. The trick was to take Shadow of Haste and Dwarven Stability on the bar, set up SoH near the res shrine after putting up SF, and cast the 2nd SF without using Swiftness or Paradox.
So yeah, again, Kegging was even FASTER than I calculated (about 1.7-1.8x faster than raptors)
Wish I had known about the shadow of haste thing... damn...
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Quote: every 8.5 raptors drop an event item, and every 4 vaettir used to drop an event item Corrected.
Hmm, surprising, I guess possible if you can ball all 60 at once. When I kegged, I was usually getting 3 minute runs, but certainly could have dropped it to 2-2:30 or so using better run skills/cons...
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Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive
In my "experiment" doing keg-bombing actually gave me more (how is this possible?)
Statistical noise, or more likely, a bad implementation of in-game fcn(rnd()) - computer number generators tend to follow patterns/strings, rather than true randomness...Quote:
Quote: Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive
3stacks / 2hr from kegging
It works out to about every 8.5 raptors drop an event item, and every 4 vaettir drop an event item. Something not quite right there with that every 4th vaettir drop. When I kegged back in the day, I'd see around 6 event items a run, with high runs netting 10-12. I didn't see 15 drops per run on average, that's for sure!!!
By your own calculations, you got 3 stacks in 2 hours on a 90 second run.
2*60*60/90=80 total runs.
3*250=750 items
750/80=9.4 per run (this seems possible drop rate over 80 runs)
60/9.4=item drop every 6.4 vaettir.
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It works out to about every 8.5 raptors drop an event item, and every 4 vaettir drop an event item. Something not quite right there with that every 4th vaettir drop. When I kegged back in the day, I'd see around 6 event items a run, with high runs netting 10-12. I didn't see 15 drops per run on average, that's for sure!!!
By your own calculations, you got 3 stacks in 2 hours on a 90 second run.
2*60*60/90=80 total runs.
3*250=750 items
750/80=9.4 per run (this seems possible drop rate over 80 runs)
60/9.4=item drop every 6.4 vaettir.
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Yeah, something learned in my high-school programming, probably didn't truely randomize anything =0
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Something not quite right there with that every 4th vaettir drop. When I kegged back in the day, I'd see around 6 event items a run, with high runs netting 10-12. I didn't see 15 drops per run on average, that's for sure!!!
I got about 7-10 event item drops when I bombed the group of 36, works out to about every 5-3.6 vaettir.Quote:
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By your own calculations, you got 3 stacks in 2 hours on a 90 second run. 2*60*60/90=80 total runs. 3*250=750 items 750/80=9.4 per run (this seems possible drop rate over 80 runs) 60/9.4=item drop every 6.4 vaettir. It wasn't a 90s run, it was about 85, those extra seconds are crucial in your calculations, so that increases the total amount of runs done. Not sure, but I'm thinking you messed up a calculation here.... gotta go do an exam though (at school on spare atm), so I'll look at this a bit more thoroughly when I get home ;p Quote:
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