Why do you continue and or post?

Good for you. Took you long enough but better late than never, I think.

And no I'm not driving people out of the game. I'm not playing GW anymore myself.

I play and keep playing GW because it's fun, and it has everything I would like to play in a game. Wanna go and just kill as many monsters as I want, I can do that no problem.
Wanna do missions with progressive storylines? Sure! Do random questing? Absolutely. How about PvP? I hear HA calling my name.
If I get bored of one thing, I play another aspect of GW, until I usually arrive in a full circle, wanting to really play the part of the game I found kind of boring the first time around.
Also, a major thing for me regarding playing GW is the no monthly fee. I feel like it's an utter waste of money having to keep paying to play a game you already bought at the store, not even speaking of the small breaks you give yourself from gaming for any sort of reason (like work, school, vacation, or just wanna not play anything for a week).
For instance, I would love to give a try and buy/play Aion, but it's not going to happen. Too bad, cause I love the concept of flying in that game, but NOTHING warrants a pay to play game for me.

I love playing Guild Wars, and it will be the only MMO game I'll play until GW2 comes out.

Why do I carry on playing? Well, I've only been an active player for a bit over a year so I'm still finding stuff to do, I have friends who play, friends in my guild and I'm simply still in love with the game. I complain about updates and I get pissed with ANet when my XTH Points don't come through, but it doesn't stop me playing because I still like this game. Maybe in a year or so I'll be bored and have moved on, but not now.

Why do I post? Definitely because im bored and waiting for GW2 to arrive.

Because I hope for more updates like the 18/06 one, that might rejuvenate my interest for the game.

I'm not really unhappy with the game. I enjoy it actually. Its hard for me, which I like most of the time. Its big enough to where I can do something different everyday if I want. I can go to the pvp areas for a nice break from pve (RA for a speedy pvp match is about all I do beside Z training for an easy 2k factions. Or FA for fun.

The only things I'm not completely thrilled with are the lack of 7 heroes and the difficulty of soloing areas with my warrior. Although neither of those things bother me enough to make a rant thread. I'd participate in one though.

Over all, I don't let things that don't matter, get to me. If I get bored or frustrated with gw, I move on to one of the dozens of other games I play and then come back after a nice break. (last break was for over a year)

As for how I feel about Arena Net's way of handling problems or unhappy fans? They're a game provider and as such do the best they can with what they have. Can't make everyone happy all the time and a few dozen people on a forum, complaining about something isn't going to make a game provider drop their current plans to make those few select people happy.

I understand its about money. Game providers don't make and support games for charity, they do it for profit because gamers in general are addictive people who become completely absorbed with the games they like.

Point is, Guildwars is still fun for me, despite all the drama.


As for why I post on gwg about gw? I like to discuss the games I play and get advice from those who know more than me so I can get better at the game and enjoy it even more. I'm also up all night and theres nothing better to do at the moment. I'v played gw or am about to play gw or find a thread interesting enough to ramble on like I'm doing now. Besides, gwg is a cool site, for the most part.

I am a very old player of guild wars since the time of the original betas.
Have all campaigns and 6 characters who have done it all.

I have not been playing Guild Wars for the last year at all. I just log in
maybe once every two months just to see whats going on for around 10
minutes. Nowadays, I am playing Galaxy Online from IGG games.

Why did I stop? i don't know, it just happened one day when I didn't feel
like logging in. The game for me became very stale.

From the time when there was a lot of chat going on amongst players and
group formation to do quests, it came to a place where you were doing
everything in isolation with heroes. Chat became a place where spamming
was happening and elite instances became places where you did not have a
chance to get in any team if you dont have a cookie cutter build.

Builds came and builds went. In essence, the game has always remained the
same with new scenery, new items etc. being added to it. If I had to put
my finger on it, what is lacking now is the feeling of the community that
was there in the past. Every town you used to go to in the old prophecies
had mature people who were interested in talking and forming teams to do
quests etc instead of spamming or talking trash. Would you believe it that
2 of my early characters did every quest and mission with a full real team
in prophecies/factions? the ones after these finished with heroes/hench
or max with another player plus 4 heroes.

I wouldn't say that the game is bad or if its excellent. I guess that
everyone has certain tastes at a certain time period which just change
after a while. The things you used to like don't appeal to you anymore.
Kind of like music - if you listen to the same song over and over
again.....it gets to the stage that it annoys you and you skip the track
when you come to it. I guess that's what happened to me and Guild Wars.
Lets see if GW2 brings back some of the magic.

I just logged into the forums today out of a sense of nostalgia so I
thought I should contribute my two cents

What can I say, I am just too nice and I couldn't live with myself if I'd let all these stupid RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOers out there living their lives not knowing how wrong they are.
I just care too much.

*blows kiss*
Love you too babez!

THIS. This is exactly how I feel about this game.
>_> Although I will probably crack and buy Aion, but we'll see.

You just complained about me complaining about the complainers, so what does that make you? Oh the irony!!

i usually alway like your post but this one brought a smile to my face we wouldnt love you any other way

Because, as an American, I believe everyone gets their opinion, and no matter how much they suck everyone gets to voice theirs. As a capitalist, I believe anet has the right to ignore those opinions.

Question answered at first post.

I generally only complain because ANet is way too influenced by other complainers and usually go around wildly swinging nerf bat. Just look at what they did to the rit/para with all the cumulative nerfs that they only just recently attempted to correct due to the amount of complaining.

1. People complain cause they care.
2. People complain cause they can.
3. People complain cause they want to.
4. People complain cause it's the only thing they know how to do, i.e. habit.

Pick one.

(Mine is 1.)

If no-one complained when dissapointed, we'd be playing the worst games ever created in few years time! Gw's is an online game (with heroes, but still an online game) online gamers have access to the internet, people with access to the interweb like to moan

Q? Would you rather 100 gamers who never speak or 100 gamers who voice their opinions? The 100 gamers who voice their opinions will bring about a change in the game by letting the dev's know what they find works and what doesn't. Meanwhile the 100 silent gamers continue to play pac man...Oops my bad, one of them spoke, it's Mrs Pac Man now

Currently, I have no idea why I even bother with this game anymore.

The Lag is unbearable. I can't even play for 1 hour without DC or lag spikes every 2-3 minutes. Not to mention, there is tons of stuff that still needs fixing, but they won't even bother fixing it. Instead, they'd rather nerf this and nerf that just so you can't speed clear and solo run anymore. Good job on that one. Hey, maybe next time, something can get fixed instead of nerf after nerf. It makes the game no fun for anyone when stuff is constantly being nerfed so others can't use that skill for farming anymore. Meanwhile, those of us that actually have fun using those skills to just play the game are getting screwed over left and right cause of it. It's ridiculous.

In actuallity, the only reason I still play on occassion, is for my family. It's the only game that we actually play together. Otherwise, I'd quit. There is plenty of other games out there that I enjoy way more than this one. Used to play WoW, but WoW died long ago and is still going downhill. Let's just hope something happens soon that actually redeems Guild Wars. Otherwise, it's just another game that is going to die.

That's just not right. The OP here is one of the classic riverside people who pops into every thread negative to A-net and not only e-knights in their defense but mostly complains about or goes on the offensive against the people bringing the criticism. But in theory this is a good topic to have if he's willing to listen to responses (see more nuance than simply black & white, 'for' or 'against' anet) instead of trying to make a point with the OP (love it or leave it).

lol, i thought he was just asking a question. Don't take such offense.

Okay, this is the 1,337th time I've said this...

There is a difference between complaining and constructive criticism. Most people on this forum do the former rather than the latter.

Having been involved in RPG's longer than most people have been alive, it's my observation that most people who drift towards these types of games are self-centered egotists. Complaining is simply a way to get attention.

If you care, as the 2nd post stated, then provide constructive criticism rather than complaining. Many here do that, but it is certainly a small minority.

I continue because GW is a great game and there are by far no alternatives in the no-timely-fee segment.

Old Navy Saying: A bitching sailor is a happy sailor!!!

If we were not happy we would not be bitching. If everyone really hated the game noone would even bother posting that they hate it and all the website and forums would be empty.

Everyone can just put on your happy helmet and sing along:

Hello, boys and girls, this is your old pal Stinky Wizzleteats. This is a
song about a whale-no! This is a song about being happy. That's right!
It's the Happy Happy Joy Joy song!

CHORUS
Happy happy joy joy
Happy happy joy joy
Happy happy joy joy
Happy happy joy joy
Happy happy joy joy
Happy happy joy joy
Happy happy joy joy joy

I don't think you're happy enough. That's right! I'll teach you to be
happy. I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs.

CHORUS

If'n you ain' the graddaddy of all liars. The little critters of nature
they don't know that they're ugly. That's very funny! A fly marrying a
bumblebee. I told you I'd shoot! But you didn't believe me. Why didn't you
believe me?

CHORUS

Happy happy happy happy
Happy happy happy happy
Happy happy joy joy joy

It's nice to know I am a classic. A good portion of the criticism I see is just ANET sucks, WoW is better, etc, without anything constructive about it. I just feel that ANET has done more good things than bad. I don't feel that because I post on Guru I can talk for all players like some here feel they have the right to do; I just speak for myself. Nothing is perfect and neither is GW, but it sure has done a whole lot right.

There's an old maxim in the South (of the US) that basically says, "America: Love It or Leave It". That is an asinine saying. The truth is that real Americans, who actually love their country, will point out our faults more often than our strengths. It's not because they are unpatriotic or ungrateful, it's because they are passionate about their country and strive to improve upon the foundation. Social unrest often occurs because people love their country, not because they hate it.

The same thing goes for GW. Often people who complain about it are angry at the lack of attention that GW is now getting considering how much it used to get. Or they're angry about broken game mechanics or poor game updates (or in our current state, the XTH being broken). And if they feel that they are owed services or rights,that is probably because they have invested so much of their time and effort into the game and it's community, and to deny them those rights and services outrages them because of their strong bond to the very community that bore their efforts.

If you are ignorant enough to think that a "Guild Wars: Love It or Leave It" approach is a good idea, then you should be prepared to watch a majority of the players who love this game and the community built around it, leave it. Constructive criticism is great and all, but sometimes heads need to roll in order for change to occur.

I bolded what I agree with. As for heads rolling unless we are stockholder of ANET we have no right to demand any personnel changes. We take what is offered, make suggestions and hope they listen. In America we have a free market economy where people speak with their money, that is what talks.

I didn't say that we have the right to demand anything. What I was suggesting is that some people in the community may feel like they are owed something because of their time and effort. Those are two very different things.

Oh, and as far as the constructive criticism comment goes, the truth is that everyone reacts differently to what they perceive to be "bad news". Some people are constructive, some just get pissed off. Tbh, it's a lot easier to ignore constructive criticism than it is to ignore riotous anger.

I agree 100% but you left yourself open at one sensative spot.. those who pick sentances apart will say "Well i payed the moneu for it.. and bought all the chapters and the expansion and bought char slots. yada yda" they would thinkb thats what ya said instead of the Stock option you have mentioned earlier in the post. But yeah nice post.. I wouldnt mind getting some Anet stock.. AZctually any gaming Giants stock.. gaming rises when people need to stress off....and you know the crisis =)

Not personnel changes but just about anything less than that is legitimate (including burning effigies outside the offices).

Most of us paid real money for the right to play the game(s). We were encouraged to pay that money via the infamous marketing that implied certain things would be possible and that certain things would be happening, i.e. improvements and updates. Therefore we have every right to complain, even vociferously if appropriate (more effigies please), when our expectations, which are set by A-Net, are not met (or managed). It’s exactly the same as when you go and purchase a new pair of shoes; find the heels are not quite the same length and the retailer says tough they are all like that.

Can you imagine how it felt when a player found that the heroic profession they picked was considered, in mid to end game, the equivalent of Leecher and that whenever they wanted to 'join in' with everyone else, in a game that is positioned as a world class MMO, they were insulted and ignored (Mesmer before PVE skills). That player would be correct in thinking the ‘be a hero and save Tyria’ marketing was written by the fairies, the skill balancer was a brainless Troll and that A-Nets non-policing of the game (No DMs) was bad.

The PVE player is (was) perfectly entitled to burn some effigies over why some professions i.e Paragon and Ritualist were progressively limited to fulfil the needs of a minority of players (re: Skills nerfed to fix genuine PVP problems).

Yes I do understand that GW is A-nets game. But A-net has an obligation to the players, due to how they describe the game when it is sold, and sometimes they do not fulfil that obligation. If it was F2P it would be different.

And I can give plenty more examples of how over time this fabulous game has developed obscene WOWzits. Evolving into WOW was never on the box.

So complaining is legitimate and taking what is offered without complaint is wrong, more importantly complaining is one of the normal channels through which a company gets feedback.

If not for the whining we would all be using Ursan.

p.s. I’m currently in a ‘I hate GW’ phase due to A-net changing COP and not changing Assassins.

The reason to complain is to hopefully get your complaint fixed or changed in the game in YOUR favor. That's why there are always so many arguements and complaints about the complainers. But, all you have to do is look at past changes and those that complained the loudest and the longest got what they wanted Added to the game or DELETED from the game. Whinners always win instead of winners. lol Losers still lose though. lol

Because whining satisfies our needs in a game.

Because you won't be there :-(

Unfortunately I am forced to watch WWE 3 times a week, my wife is totally addicted to it.

Now my point with saying that is this.

If you notice the story lines on those shows are designed to aggravate, annoy, etc... 90% of the watchers, while the other 10% might like the people they have as champs and what not.

Why do you think that is? This type of plot writing draws the 90% of the viewers back week after week. They tell themselves man maybe this week my guy will win, or maybe this week that jerk who has the belt will get beat down good.

This is precisely what draws 90% of the players back to GW after so long, you continue to tell yourself well maybe this next maintenance or maybe this next update they will add the things I want. Maybe the OP (insert class) will finally get nerfed. The list goes on, Anything that is marketed to the public has to have that "annoy the (expletive) out of me" part in order to be successful.

Many of the people who believe this game is going down the drain, are the same paying for the extras even after they continue to complain.

I'm not posting this to get on anyone, I'm posting totally neutral. My point is that they are doing something right either way you look at it, because even the people who are 100% sure that this game fails are still here playing.

You never know.

I complain because I loved what Guild Wars was and hate the grindfest that it has become. Really, I've lost hope that we'll be able to get through to them on GW1, but am still holding on to a small ribbon of hope that they will return GW2 to being a game about "skill, not time spent playing." Although, now with talk of infinite leveling, I don't see much hope of that happening either.