I stumbled across this while reading the GW2 article on the official wiki:
http://isbndb.com/d/book/guild_wars.html
I know all about placeholders and such, but since it was taken from the wiki I assume it's true. Isn't this kinda bad news, meaning GW2 won't be released before late 2010, perhaps 2011? Yeah, I had hopes for a 2009 release a few months ago, and I have hopes we'll see it in early-mid 2010 now, or had, at least until I found that link.
GW books + GW2 release date?
kupp
Gun Pierson
A game like GW2 will probably take around 5 years to develop. If they started at the moment Eotn got released (August 2007), it means there's a good chance we won't see it before 2011, maybe 2010 if we're very lucky.
Another thing to notice is that I think NCSoft doesn't want GW2 to compete with Aion on the European market. Aion gets released in September 2009, so we won't see GW2 the first year and a half after Aion's release which means not before 2011.
Another thing to notice is that I think NCSoft doesn't want GW2 to compete with Aion on the European market. Aion gets released in September 2009, so we won't see GW2 the first year and a half after Aion's release which means not before 2011.
Poetic Tragedy
But.. we're all going to die in 2012 so they better hurry the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up.
slowerpoke
we already knew it was 2011+ from that ncsoft shareholder graph
mazza558
Plus, Anet would not have expanded their live team working on GW1 if a new release wasn't within a year away.
Nodakim
It is all a scam anyway,what other way to interest people in GW then promising playing GW1 would give you special rewards in a new game,and at the same time doing absoutely no real update to GW.
Trust and buisness dont go together.
Trust and buisness dont go together.
Painbringer
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Originally Posted by slowerpoke
we already knew it was 2011+ from that ncsoft shareholder graph
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Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Nodakim
It is all a scam anyway,what other way to interest people in GW then promising playing GW1 would give you special rewards in a new game,and at the same time doing absoutely no real update to GW.
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ArenaNet stops making expansions for Guild Wars, and therefore stops making money, in order to get people to play a game that is free to play.
Genius.
AmbientMelody
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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
A game like GW2 will probably take around 5 years to develop. If they started at the moment Eotn got released (August 2007), it means there's a good chance we won't see it before 2011, maybe 2010 if we're very lucky.
Another thing to notice is that I think NCSoft doesn't want GW2 to compete with Aion on the European market. Aion gets released in September 2009, so we won't see GW2 the first year and a half after Aion's release which means not before 2011. |
kupp
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Originally Posted by slowerpoke
we already knew it was 2011+ from that ncsoft shareholder graph
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I was expecting to see GW2 in late 2010 but now I'm just not sure. The 1st book is coming out in April that year according to that website (don't know if it's accurate or not) with 2 more to follow, will have to be released pretty close together for that. Seems like it's 2011 after all then?
Nodakim
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Yeah, that makes sense.
ArenaNet stops making expansions for Guild Wars, and therefore stops making money, in order to get people to play a game that is free to play. Genius. |
Yeah,stops making money.
Just the 2 million copies fo the game sold in the last 2 years and thousands of microtransactions.
Totaly not making any money at all.
Ghost Omel
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Originally Posted by Nodakim
Yeah,stops making money.
Just the 2 million copies fo the game sold in the last 2 years and thousands of microtransactions. Totaly not making any money at all. |
Mordakai i share your sarcasm
Mordakai
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Yeah,stops making money.
Just the 2 million copies fo the game sold in the last 2 years and thousands of microtransactions. Totaly not making any money at all. |
Anywho, my point (yes, sarcastic
) was that ArenaNet would be making much more money if they released a real expansion, rather than just try to perpetuate a hoax.This is NOT Duke Nukem. You have NCSoft promoting Mike O'Brien, they wouldn't do that if GW2 was vaporware.
I agree with other posters that GW2 will not come out until Aion has a chance to establish itself. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Beta in 2010, game release 2011.
But even if Guild Wars 2 doesn't come out until 2012, won't it be worth the wait if they take their time and get it right?
slowerpoke
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Originally Posted by kupp
I think I recall Regina saying that graph for some reason I don't remember, wasn't accurate anymore. Well there was some kind of justification for that.
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We only found out about that possible release window indirectly via NCSofts quarterly financial projections.
And officially admitting we need to wait a further 2 years wouldn't exactly go down well.
I agree with Gun, NCSoft wouldn't allow any overlap with Aion and we wont hear any kind of GW2 news until its out.
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by kupp
I stumbled across this while reading the GW2 article on the official wiki:
http://isbndb.com/d/book/guild_wars.html I know all about placeholders and such, but since it was taken from the wiki I assume it's true. Isn't this kinda bad news, meaning GW2 won't be released before late 2010, perhaps 2011? Yeah, I had hopes for a 2009 release a few months ago, and I have hopes we'll see it in early-mid 2010 now, or had, at least until I found that link. |
Second bold: Yeah, it seems like GW2 is thought to be 10-11 release. Not that new.
Overall: Only the name of the book and the author is the "accurate" info - which is why it is on the wiki. Nothing else should be even taken with a grain of salt...
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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
A game like GW2 will probably take around 5 years to develop. If they started at the moment Eotn got released (August 2007), it means there's a good chance we won't see it before 2011, maybe 2010 if we're very lucky.
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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
Another thing to notice is that I think NCSoft doesn't want GW2 to compete with Aion on the European market. Aion gets released in September 2009, so we won't see GW2 the first year and a half after Aion's release which means not before 2011.
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I'm sure that once no more than a month after Aion releases, we'll get much MUCH more info on GW2 (the "initial sales" stage passes, so they'll bring interest to other products that are sponsored by NCSoft).
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But even if Guild Wars 2 doesn't come out until 2012, won't it be worth the wait if they take their time and get it right?
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Nodakim
I am looking forward to GW2 and yes they would be making more money with a new campaign.
But this way they are gonna hype the patient people on GW2 and still make money from GW1.
But I mean yes,MMO of that caliber need 5 years to be made.
But they are working on GW2 at least for 2 years+the time they were working on EOTN and they got ideas from Utopia.
So,my question is after at least 2 years,and probably even 3 years of working on GW2,why there isnt even a single Dev journal,1 SS,1 gameplay video?
They even wont hype it...
But this way they are gonna hype the patient people on GW2 and still make money from GW1.
But I mean yes,MMO of that caliber need 5 years to be made.
But they are working on GW2 at least for 2 years+the time they were working on EOTN and they got ideas from Utopia.
So,my question is after at least 2 years,and probably even 3 years of working on GW2,why there isnt even a single Dev journal,1 SS,1 gameplay video?
They even wont hype it...
Gun Pierson
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Originally Posted by AmbientMelody
Um ... Aion is a completely different game and unlike gw requires you to play on regular basis, it's not a game you buy once, then take it off for a while and go back when you feel like it. Aion wouldn't really conflict with gw sales if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes
Aion, D3, and GW2 will all have clashing sales.
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Ghost Omel
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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
Yes I thought about that too. But if the rumours are true and GW2 will have more elements of a traditional mmo, the situation may change. Especially because GW2 is free to play, at least that's what Anet says atm.
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Lets hope they keep their promises like they usualy do =)
shoyon456
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Originally Posted by kupp
I think I recall Regina saying that graph for some reason I don't remember, wasn't accurate anymore. Well there was some kind of justification for that.
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About the book:
There is a small chance I will even be interested in GW2, there is a 0% chance I will read a book about game lore that I know enough of already tyvm. Even the Halo book series irritated me, and I know many people who think that is some of the best reading based on a game around.
It's sort of a shame that Anet is trying to do things the "traditional" way done by Blizzard and so many others. Anet has never done a book, and while there is always a first time for everything, I doubt their first time will be a "big hit."
Arduin
Availability: Ships on or around February 23, 2010
But you know, if it isn't on GW.com, it's probably fake.
/sigh
But you know, if it isn't on GW.com, it's probably fake.
/sigh
Gigashadow
The "2010-2011" timeframe on NCSoft's investor materials indicated that late 2010 was pretty much the earliest you could expect. Regina has stated GW2 info will be revealed "later this year", and posts from a week ago (go look) have all but confirmed this will come out at PAX in September.
It would not make sense to be secretive for so long, then suddenly publicly spill all the beans about your game to all your competitors, and then not do anything for a long time after that. So I expect that once the beans are spilled at PAX (assuming they are), beta is imminent.
I suspect the sudden desire last week to get to 1000 Facebook fans, and the GW1 testing krewe, are to prep for GW2 testing. My guess is testing krewe people who provide useful feedback will be invited to test GW2.
That is the actual publisher of the book (I think), so I'd give their estimate more weight than say, Amazon (who says April 1, 2010). No guarantees of course.
It would not make sense to be secretive for so long, then suddenly publicly spill all the beans about your game to all your competitors, and then not do anything for a long time after that. So I expect that once the beans are spilled at PAX (assuming they are), beta is imminent.
I suspect the sudden desire last week to get to 1000 Facebook fans, and the GW1 testing krewe, are to prep for GW2 testing. My guess is testing krewe people who provide useful feedback will be invited to test GW2.
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ValaOfTheFens
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I guess I will trust the Mayan’s calendar since they were smart and got out of here centuries ago. They know something… Seriously…. they know where the stargate is.......
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vamp08
I wouldn't mind a new campiagn. However, it would be hard to do that since EotN pretty much wrapped up the game.
slowerpoke
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Regina has stated GW2 info will be revealed "later this year",
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but i will make a prediction about that. they'll reveal...a piece of concept art...that we've already seen.
Nodakim
That would be a bitch move.
Hope it doesnt happen,but probably will.
Something like conecpt art+small details about GW2 would be like...
Go die in a fire.
Hope it doesnt happen,but probably will.
Something like conecpt art+small details about GW2 would be like...
Go die in a fire.
Megas XLR
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hohohohoho we'll see. its not that i dont believe them.... actually i dontwell, we know they will attend pax, they always do. whether they provide anything gw2 is another matter.
but i will make a prediction about that. they'll reveal...a piece of concept art...that we've already seen. |
Lagg
Guild Wars 2 will be a late 2012 game with a closed beta starting early 2012. During this period, there will be two or three open beta events, lasting one or two days each.
You will not participate in the closed beta.
And neither will I.
Hope I'm not offending anyone here.
I realise it's quite unpleasant being on the receiving end of epic amounts of truth.
You will not participate in the closed beta.
And neither will I.
Hope I'm not offending anyone here.
I realise it's quite unpleasant being on the receiving end of epic amounts of truth.
slowerpoke
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Then they'll tease us on the art we've already seen. "Do you know where this is? Oh hohohohohoho."
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pumpkin pie
writing these books is risky, what if the story turns out to be crapola? would turn a lot of players off.
wetwillyhip
I'm guessing we'll get some news about gw2 around September 2009. I def remember hearing Anet and NC Soft will be at PAX. PAX is in Seattle WA in Sept and I bet there will be gw2 news at their booths.
jammerpa
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Guild Wars 2 will be a late 2012 game with a closed beta starting early 2012. During this period, there will be two or three open beta events, lasting one or two days each.
You will not participate in the closed beta. |
shoyon456
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Guild Wars 2 will be a late 2012 game with a closed beta starting early 2012. During this period, there will be two or three open beta events, lasting one or two days each.
You will not participate in the closed beta. And neither will I. |
The timeline to release GW2 says 2010-2011. Anet has said a beta (dont remember whether it was open or closed) will be much closer to release, that there will be a big "splash" of information very close to release. The big splash is cited as a reason for being very obscure in GW2 production, and meant for PR. Personally, I cannot reconcile a GW2 release in 2011 with a "big splash" in September 2009, it doesn't add up to their original intent.
And like the post above, the 1 concept art showing at PAX won't be the only thing... they'll also inform us officially about the book comming out next year, Guildwars: the Fall of Ascalon...big surprise.
rick1027
my thought on pax is we will see lots of aion maybe something on the book and something they will implement in guild wars coming right after that date wont that be around one of their quarterly update time. dont think well see any gw2 news yet
Buster
Well Guild Wars 2 was announced on Mar 20 2007 and supposedly Utopia (campaign 4 was cancelled sometime before the GW2 announcement). Just trying to put 2+2 together here, they probably have already 3 years of GW2 developement under their belt. My guess if they show GW2 at PAX this year then there might be a good chance we will see GW2 at the end of 2010. So that would mean 4 years of developement, anything over 4 years I think they would be hard pressed for financial support since they do the f2p model. Then again, it really is anyone's guess.
Legendm
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They even wont hype it...
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Ellix Cantero
Aion will more or less bomb within a couple of months. Not because I think it will be bad, just because there's only room for one alpha-dog pay-to-play mmo in the marketplace, and I don't think Aion will have what it takes to dethrone the current champion. GW2 information will probably come gushing forth a couple of months after Aion has been released.
rick1027
you might be right if aion is a flop but if its a hit id bet gw2 news gets put on the shelf
4thVariety
Aion is set for September 25th if Eurogamer is to be believed. It's your classic "back to school" release window everyone will be using. Good for word of mouth promotion, but tough season to compete and especially tough to keep players when they hit the 3-months grinding wall right around X-Mas and people buy all those other great games.
If D3 can really cut into the market remains to be seen. D1 and D2 were very much games most people simply played once for the story. If more than 10% of D3 buyers really dig into the endless leveling, the loot grinding and the Nihgtmare/Hardcore modes, I'd be surprised. Hellgate is a good example. It sold almost 1.5 Million copies and people just did not stick around for a subscription. Flagship would have been in a good position had they not made themselves financially dependent on the subscription revenue.
GW2 on the other hand will neither be up against Aion, nor D3. GW2 is far more complex than D3 and that alone is a dramatic shift in target player, even if both are "fantasy RPGish". Compared to Aion, GW2 will be the new, even more shinier object including ultra competitive pricing. We also have to consider that NC might not even expect each Aion player to be "bound forever". Many MMO developers are just fine with people playing for 6-10 months. By then those players will have spend up to $175 on the product, which is more than most fps developers can say about their customers.
If D3 can really cut into the market remains to be seen. D1 and D2 were very much games most people simply played once for the story. If more than 10% of D3 buyers really dig into the endless leveling, the loot grinding and the Nihgtmare/Hardcore modes, I'd be surprised. Hellgate is a good example. It sold almost 1.5 Million copies and people just did not stick around for a subscription. Flagship would have been in a good position had they not made themselves financially dependent on the subscription revenue.
GW2 on the other hand will neither be up against Aion, nor D3. GW2 is far more complex than D3 and that alone is a dramatic shift in target player, even if both are "fantasy RPGish". Compared to Aion, GW2 will be the new, even more shinier object including ultra competitive pricing. We also have to consider that NC might not even expect each Aion player to be "bound forever". Many MMO developers are just fine with people playing for 6-10 months. By then those players will have spend up to $175 on the product, which is more than most fps developers can say about their customers.
SpiritThief
Quit worrying about how long it will take. You should all know.
The longer it, the better the chances of the game being something turely amazing. Or do you just want it to end up like Call of Duty, reskin after reskin.
Instead you should be asking why they aren't adding new maps for pvp. Where's the straight up Deathmatch mode for pvp? *no npcs*
The longer it, the better the chances of the game being something turely amazing. Or do you just want it to end up like Call of Duty, reskin after reskin.
Instead you should be asking why they aren't adding new maps for pvp. Where's the straight up Deathmatch mode for pvp? *no npcs*
Lishy
Guild Wars 2 doesn't exist.. What're you talking about?
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