Support's view on potentially abusive behaviour

Guldur

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Originally Posted by Ghost Omel View Post
If anything if i called them "black" there they would get offended because id judge them by their colour not their ethnisity.
Here in brazil the same thing happens, calling someone black is actually offensive because it refers to the collor.

Plus, it shouldnt be compared a racial attack to being called carebearfag.

Marxon Aurion

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Join Date: Feb 2008

In my 40/40.

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I find it interesting that the OP gets 'insulted' for carebear and then proves that fact by reporting to get revenge on a silly insult.

YunSooJin

YunSooJin

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

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Originally Posted by upier View Post
(And once again - the simple fact that he called me a fag, does not give me the right to unload a shitstorm of profanities on him. There is a system in place for dealing with this - and I took advantage of it.)
What makes you a carebear and retarded, is that you actually took screenshots and went through ANET's more complicated process in order to try to ensure a ban for that guy. You could have done a simple /report, but we now all know that you are a vindictive little <word here> who was thankfully thwarted by people who have more brains than you do.

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Originally Posted by Marxon Aurion View Post
I find it interesting that the OP gets 'insulted' for carebear and then proves that fact by reporting to get revenge on a silly insult.
He doesn't merely report, he takes a screenshot and sends in a private ticket to ANET. I think we can all agree this carebear <word here> was pretty vested in the outcome, even though the tone of his OP would indicate otherwise.


When I have a bad day, I don't start taking screenshots and sending them to ANET.

upier

upier

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by YunSooJin View Post
What makes you a carebear and retarded, is that you actually took screenshots and went through ANET's more complicated process in order to try to ensure a ban for that guy. You could have done a simple /report, but we now all know that you are a vindictive little <word here> who was thankfully thwarted by people who have more brains than you do.
I sent the report after the match was over.
Does the /report function work when I am not in the same map as the guy I want to report?

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Originally Posted by Marxon Aurion View Post
I find it interesting that the OP gets 'insulted' for carebear and then proves that fact by reporting to get revenge on a silly insult.
I had issues with the term "fag" rather than "carebear".

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Originally Posted by YunSooJin View Post
He doesn't merely report, he takes a screenshot and sends in a private ticket to ANET. I think we can all agree this carebear <word here> was pretty vested in the outcome, even though the tone of his OP would indicate otherwise.
Please explain where did you gather this insight into what I felt when you yourself actually admitted that my words speak against your brilliant insight?

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Originally Posted by YunSooJin View Post
When I have a bad day, I don't start taking screenshots and sending them to ANET.
The "bad day" in question was the result of a gay hate crime we witnessed in Slovenia a day before. A guy I know was pushed to the floor, received multiple kicks to the head and was slightly burned with the torch, while the 7 guys who attacked him yelled "death to fags". That happened at a gay poetry evening. And after this was reported by one of our main news stations - there were additional threats that the bar that held the reading will be burned down to the ground by the end of the week.
That's why I decided to stand up to being called a fag to the guy in the game. I do not approve of that kind of language and the incident of the previous day reminded me that there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for me to NOT speak up against it.

Ghost Omel

Ghost Omel

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Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
I sent the report after the match was over.
Does the /report function work when I am not in the same map as the guy I want to report?


I had issues with the term "fag" rather than "carebear".
You have a problem with cigaretes? or pipes?

See.. its all about YOUR interpretation of the word... if you think it was insulting to call you a cigarette then by all means THANK YOU ANET FOR DISREGARDING it.. if you took it in the SECOND meaning which is made by silly bunch of hillbillys then the problem is wihtin your understanding and view on the world.. For all that i know
fag=sigarette
gay=happy
N-"word" = Nigerean or African.

YunSooJin

YunSooJin

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

This is the internet. If you're going to change the behavior of people behind the mask of anonymity..



I heard it works for feelings too.

Rocky Raccoon

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

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You know all of you who disagree with me on this forum are a bunch of fags, plain and simple fags. I guess I can say this because I only did it once and it really is just a word of endearment and can't hurt you. Does Guru have different rules than ANET? If so this will be gone momentarily and I didn't really mean it. Just trying to prove a point.

Jetdoc

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger View Post
Does Guru have different rules than ANET? If so this will be gone momentarily and I didn't really mean it.
Many posters in this thread would believe that you deserve a ban from the forum just for mentioning the word. Do you think that you would deserve that, even though you were trying to prove a point?

Hmmm...slippery slope argument, anyone?

Rocky Raccoon

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R/Mo

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc View Post
Many posters in this thread would believe that you deserve a ban from the forum just for mentioning the word. Do you think that you would deserve that, even though you were trying to prove a point?

Hmmm...slippery slope argument, anyone?

I would have gladly accepted the ban if it were to prove my point.

Ghost Omel

Ghost Omel

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Join Date: Aug 2007

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Well now look i know for a fact that your Avatar is a orange bull... Now maybe a female would thinks its a resamblance to....well you knwo why you picket the avatar right.. do you think you deserve to be banned.. even though you havent for motnh if not years...

Fag is a cigarette deal with it people.. its your dirty racist and sexist minds that think otherwise....not every one takes words for what some fool thought they are.

EDIT: reffering to Jetdock

Nodakim

Nodakim

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Join Date: May 2008

Hrvatska

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@upier-the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO argument(and yea saying the words actualy doesnt mean you are offending anyone,its when you try to insult someone)
Why do always white people scream about racism?
Seriosuly,isnt being superior in someones mind a good thing?
Politicly correct =/= not racist

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Omel View Post
Well now look i know for a fact that your Avatar is a orange bull... Now maybe a female would thinks its a resamblance to....well you knwo why you picket the avatar right.. do you think you deserve to be banned.. even though you havent for motnh if not years...

Fag is a cigarette deal with it people.. its your dirty racist and sexist minds that think otherwise....not every one takes words for what some fool thought they are.
My avatar is not an orange bull, it is a conglomeration of animals from a very old tv show. All words have mutliple meanings and just because one or two of the meanings may be innocent the third mat be very offensive. Do you really think the person meant to call him a cigarette? I think not, the meaning of the word is in the context in which it was used.

Ghost Omel

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger View Post
My avatar is not an orange bull, it is a conglomeration of animals from a very old tv show. All words have mutliple meanings and just because one or two of the meanings may be innocent the third mat be very offensive. Do you really think the person meant to call him a cigarette? I think not, the meaning of the word is in the context in which it was used.
Not you.... the orange bull guy...

Being witty about the situation and not letting yourself think of the 3rd meaning would work just fine like a response

Why did you call me a Cigarete for? I dont think i am made out of paper and tobaco?

I think that would ause confusion and turn into explanation PMs which will tierd down the fool.. and turn the tables in your favor -_-

That simple.. Little wittinnes , little humor solves all conflicts...Reporting just encaurages it.. Takes effort..but i think its worth it

Rocky Raccoon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Omel View Post
Not you.... the orange bull guy...
Oops, my bad.

Enon

Enon

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger View Post
You know all of you who disagree with me on this forum are a bunch of fags, plain and simple fags. I guess I can say this because I only did it once and it really is just a word of endearment and can't hurt you.
Try twice!

And yeah, the guy obviously wasn't referring to the British meaning of the word

Coverticus

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Okay, while we yet again see the varying standards ANet again apply to their own rules, you have to question should it have ever gotten this far? Come on, I mean if someone in the playground at school used to call you something even moderately offensive (admittedly school was in black and white for me ), how many picked up their "skirts" and ran to their teacher and said "Sir Sir... Smithy said a BAD word to me, I want him punished!!". You dealt with it there and then. And that's how alot of these situations, imho, should be handled in game.

If someone calls me anything once, it's a case of shrugging shoulders, wash it off and carry on. A few more times and okay, maybe borderline - continually, yes, one get's off one's butt and fights back. But for this situation, it should never have made it to Support. And they handled it perfectly well *in this particular case*. A simple "why tyvm" probably would have thrown the offender off enough to walk away with a smile on the OPs face

Ghost Omel

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Originally Posted by Terra Jim View Post
If someone calls me anything once, it's a case of shrugging shoulders, wash it off and carry on. A few more times and okay, maybe borderline - continually, yes, one get's off one's butt and fights back. But for this situation, it should never have made it to Support. And they handled it perfectly well *in this particular case*. A simple "why tyvm" probably would have thrown the offender off enough to walk away with a smile on the OPs face
Perfect example of how to deal with any situation.. Thank you Sir Jim i salute you

Inde

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Join Date: Dec 2004

K, thread has run it's course when we are now talking about avatars, cigarettes and flaming each other. I think that upier definitely has enough feedback from the community on both sides of the issue to understand both points of view.