How we may die...

Winnies Bro

Winnies Bro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

W/R

In the final cutscene of eotn' Ogdens Benediction' we can pretty much decide that this all happens at the same time otherwise that would be stupid, just jumping to different points in time(i have read some other posts where people think that it all happens in the far future and/or at different times).
Im just about to watch it in youtube to check hang on...
yeah so we see the player and the rest of the party walking off and then at the end of the cutscene(presumeably right after the great destroyer is killed) primordus opens an eye ans then the screen goes black and we hear primordus roaring/screeching. So it is quite possible that primordus wakes up and kills us!
HOOOOOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AY!

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

lay of the pills kid

Shewmake

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Alabama

Mo/D

"In the years to come, new threats would arise in Tyria."

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"And the greatest threat of all was yet to come."

So definitely not.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

But I switched to my +10 vs dragons shield so i survived.

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

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Yeah, seeing as how your player character is GW2 is going to be a descendant of your GW1 character, I doubt it.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

I perma formed his butt back to sleep All is good and I am married to Livia and live on the beach by LA

Ebony Shadowheart

Ebony Shadowheart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

USA

SSW

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The GW2 page on wiki states that the next game takes place 250 years after the events of EotN. (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/GW2 under setting)

As Katsumi states, GW2 is played through your descendant....meaning your offspring. You can't have children if you're dead.

Winnies Bro

Winnies Bro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by netniwk View Post
lay of the pills kid
What are you on about?...

Alicendre

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

BTW, I wonder how that will work for non-human characters?
Will half-breeds be possible? (eww half-Asura half-Charr!)

Winnies Bro

Winnies Bro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shewmake View Post
"In the years to come, new threats would arise in Tyria."

...

"And the greatest threat of all was yet to come."

So definitely not.
That doesnt make any sense at all...

Oops! i forgot that it wouldnt make sense if you die before you have children... lol!

Kenzo Skunk

Kenzo Skunk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

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Originally Posted by Alicendre View Post
(eww half-Asura half-Charr!)
ewww.... abominations galore!

Ghost Omel

Ghost Omel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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I dont know about you guyz but i Shagged Livia on our second date and that was way before we went to kill that ugly thing.....+ She was not with me when i went to kill The Great Destroyer.. so my line is live and should have given birth 9 month after EotN release.. =)

Syntheticfibers

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

California

All That Does Remain

R/

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Originally Posted by Ghost Omel View Post
I dont know about you guyz but i Shagged Livia on our second date and that was way before we went to kill that ugly thing.....+ She was not with me when i went to kill The Great Destroyer.. so my line is live and should have given birth 9 month after EotN release.. =)
You guys are messed.

Medoc

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2009

Amazon Basin

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Quote:
The GW2 page on wiki states that the next game takes place 250 years after the events of EotN.
If the next game takes place 250 years in the future, doesn't it stand to reason that technology should be more advanced and weapons like bows, hammers, and swords would become obsolete?

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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Not necessarily.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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Hammers where never really used as far as I know, but swords, bows etc, where used for a LONG time before guns where feasible.

As for Winnie, the end scene already HAS to take part in different times, with the scenes with Pyre, Livia, ect having to happen a while after and all the lines about the future. Plus at no part does it even hint that he woke up at the same time we left the chamber, he awakes much later. Please stop making threads and disagreeing with everything ppl tell you.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

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And if the marketing department at Anet suddenly decides it needs more funding/ongoing interest in GW and releases another (mini)expansion? Oh wait, we killed them off already. o.O'

This is why 11 years shouldn't be allowed to drink caffeine and use the internet.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Ritalin calms you down mirite?

As for the new technology, they used bows, swords and axes for thousands of years before guns were invented. History is full of times where technology growth stagnated i.e. the dark ages.

Ghost Omel

Ghost Omel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan View Post
Hammers where never really used as far as I know, but swords, bows etc, where used for a LONG time before guns where feasible.

As for Winnie, the end scene already HAS to take part in different times, with the scenes with Pyre, Livia, ect having to happen a while after and all the lines about the future. Plus at no part does it even hint that he woke up at the same time we left the chamber, he awakes much later. Please stop making threads and disagreeing with everything ppl tell you.
The civilized military used swords bows and crossbows...

Uncivilized military such as nomads and german barbarians, zulu, and Vikings favored hammers for their sheer weight and crushing capacity.. so i must correct you on that.. The reason Civilizid armies of Alexander the great and Roman armies did not used it because the weight of their bronze iron and steel armors didnt allow them to swing hammers manuverable.. On top of that the hammer vaiations were great durring the age of knights in full steel plate armor small little hammers were atached to pole-arms to litterarly crack the armor of the oponent....

If anything Hammers were use as much as swords were.. just by different military and Last time i chekced German barbarians over run Rome +)

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Omel View Post
The civilized military used swords bows and crossbows...

Uncivilized military such as nomads and german barbarians, zulu, and Vikings favored hammers for their sheer weight and crushing capacity.. so i must correct you on that.. The reason Civilizid armies of Alexander the great and Roman armies did not used it because the weight of their bronze iron and steel armors didnt allow them to swing hammers manuverable.. On top of that the hammer vaiations were great durring the age of knights in full steel plate armor small little hammers were atached to pole-arms to litterarly crack the armor of the oponent....

If anything Hammers were use as much as swords were.. just by different military and Last time i chekced German barbarians over run Rome +)
I know smaller hammers where used but I was not sure on the huge two handed things the warriors use.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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I don't know about Primordus killing us, as Guild Wars 2 will be about our character's descendants. I hope you char reproduced before Primordus ate him. hehe

In all seriousness, I think your character dies however you want it to, like if you have a storyline going for your character. Or maybe it won't die, maybe your char has eternal life. It's all about your personal preference in my opinion, as these dragons don't actually tear up the world until 250 years later. Humans can't live that long unless they're immortal. So Primordus probably just opened his eye and can't move his body out of that giant rock for 250 years. Ouch, hope he isn't claustrophobic.

Ghost Omel

Ghost Omel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan View Post
I know smaller hammers where used but I was not sure on the huge two handed things the warriors use.
Zulu used little club type hammers doing blunt devestatioon to the face and small bones... Vikings used mostly 2 armed weapons such as axes swords and hammer.. while its true 2 handed hammers have not been used frecuently but they have been used against chariots and Horsemen.. As i said previously technicaly pola-arm are both an axe and a hammer and they were wielded with 2 hands.... But regardless.. A hammer is a hammer 2 handed or not...1 handed were used mostly for infantry scurmishes.. while 2 naded were some times used on horses

Speed of a horse + speed of a swing of a 2 handed or a 1 handed hammer is guarnteed kill if hit to the face, chest or abdominal area.. Movies suck at protrayng the devestation power of hammers.. They prefer swords due to mor ebludied scene.. id pic 1 handed hamme rover a sword... 1 crack on a helmet will stun the oponene next crat to the leg.. he on the knees 1 to the visot possible dent which results in it doing right into the face and a KO..

+ chainmail is strong against swords.. hammers its practically useless... Dont underestimate hammers dude +)

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Medoc View Post
If the next game takes place 250 years in the future, doesn't it stand to reason that technology should be more advanced and weapons like bows, hammers, and swords would become obsolete?
Well, looking at some of the concept art (not all confirmed for GW2), especially Construction Site and Gunner, I do think some advances, new weapons, and new professions are out of the question.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I wonder how the offspring of my female Canthan Necro could be a Charr! Bestiality!!!

I would like something more along the lines of an adventurer discovering the tomb of an ancient hero and taking his belongings, maybe even adapting his philosophy and beliefs.

Just like Conan falls into the tomb of an atlantean king in the Conan movie while running away from wolves.

Ghost Omel

Ghost Omel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc View Post
I wonder how the offspring of my female Canthan Necro could be a Charr! Bestiality!!!

I would like something more along the lines of an adventurer discovering the tomb of an ancient hero and taking his belongings, maybe even adapting his philosophy and beliefs.

Just like Conan falls into the tomb of an atlantean king in the Conan movie while running away from wolves.
The only Conan that i acknowladge is Conan the Barbarian played by Arnold Swartzeneger.. cant spell his last name..

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc View Post
I wonder how the offspring of my female Canthan Necro could be a Charr! Bestiality!!!

I would like something more along the lines of an adventurer discovering the tomb of an ancient hero and taking his belongings, maybe even adapting his philosophy and beliefs.

Just like Conan falls into the tomb of an atlantean king in the Conan movie while running away from wolves.
Adoption, descendant doesn't necessarily have to mean direct blood line.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc View Post
I wonder how the offspring of my female Canthan Necro could be a Charr! Bestiality!!!

I would like something more along the lines of an adventurer discovering the tomb of an ancient hero and taking his belongings, maybe even adapting his philosophy and beliefs.

Just like Conan falls into the tomb of an atlantean king in the Conan movie while running away from wolves.
Just in case Anet doesn't think of anything like that, I've already started making characters with GW2 in mind:

Lexx Fluxx (Asuran), Ashpyre Smokeskin (Charr), Bjorn Ragnarok (Norn)...

(yeah, the names aren't too imaginative, sorry)

A character "reborn" as a Sylvari could have "imprints" of a former life, especially if you decide your character dies near the Sylvari Tree.

There are also tons of magical explanations to allow your character to "carry over": a Necro puts himself to sleep for 250 years, only to arise again, for example.

If Chronomancer is a class in GW2, that will make a simple explanation: Character "X" finds a spell that allows him to move through time, she emerges on the other side of a rift with new features and abilities...

You're only limited by your imagination, and, of course, how tied you are to the "official" lore.

EDIT:

Anyone who claims to be a Conan fan needs to read the original Robert E. Howard books. They are not perfect, but they are raw and powerful, and helped create the "sword & sorcery" genre to balance out the "high fantasy" of Tolkien.

http://www.barbariankeep.com/cnsources.html

Raudic

Raudic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alicendre View Post
BTW, I wonder how that will work for non-human characters?
Will half-breeds be possible? (eww half-Asura half-Charr!)
i never thought of this.... gross....

KoKoS

KoKoS

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

aBove Empress Amarox xP

KDT

Mo/E

i'll monk all of you ppl and nobody will die..

excpet for some ppl who love getting on my nerves xD

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

I suppose you could be right, Winnie. However my take is that since Ogden says "In the years to come, new threats would arise in Tyria" and then starts showing cut scenes of Liva, Primordious, the Sylvari, and everyone else, those things happen in the future. Some of them in 5 years, some in 50, some in 200, there's no distinction. I would imagine that that scene with Primordious takes place at some point in the future.

I just don't see where the proof is or either argument, however I don't think it's plausible that the intention was that Primordious would wake up at that exact moment and kill us. If nothing else, if Arenanet had wanted that, we would have seen it. And there would be no epilogue where we get to hear the praise after defeating the Great Destroyer.

subarucar

subarucar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

New Zealand

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnies Bro View Post
That doesnt make any sense at all...
It makes perfect sense actualy. You may wish to read his post again, if it still doesnt make sense, I would recommend resitting basic English.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Ok, this is how it is going to happen. Shortly before the GW2 Beta there will be new content update for GW1 and new quests. These quests would be used to bridge GW1 and GW2 with cut scenes and all.

Many of your questions would be answered then.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

This is how we die:

Sometime in the near future, some moron of an asura is going to get to screwing around with rez shrines, trying to make them work faster or something, and in the process short circuits the one he's working on. This causes a chain reaction that disables all of the rez shrines the world over. On top of that, the mystical energies that allow for all manner of resurrections is depleted, rendering all zoning, rez skills & signets useless.

dusanyu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Illusion of skillz [Iz]

W/E

you die old and crusty of a heart attack while yelling at those pesky kids to stay off your lawn

Shadowmere

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar View Post
As for the new technology, they used bows, swords and axes for thousands of years before guns were invented. History is full of times where technology growth stagnated i.e. the dark ages.
this is very true, and it's a general belief of mine that in a world where magic is reality, magic would supplant a lot of technological advancement.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mmmm, I can only picture the hot sex between my Paragon and Jora.
Mmmmmmmmh, delicious!

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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This post does raise on interesting question. Since we are hundreds of years later by GW2, all our characters will have died. Perhaps we will see a gravestone of a few familiar names (heroes, important NPCs) or have quests based on GW1 mythology in GW2.

I'll die of old age in a small town in Kryta. Or... Zho will kill me after she finds out I'm cheating on her with a threesome with Cynn and Reyna. Either or.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Active thread around here somewhere aout speculation of death....

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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In addition to the Epilogue, Ogden speaks of new threats arising in Tyria and the children of the heroes will be called upon. Leads us to believe that GW2 will be our descendants, but I think it's up to you. If you want it to be an adventurer finding your GW1 char's tomb or something, go ahead. I find that kind of interesting. Reminds me of The Mummy.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Of course, "children of the legends/heroes" could be used in a strictly metaphorical way, as in "the next generation of people."