New builds for UWSC after potential SF-nerf?
byteme!
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Originally Posted by Ferminator
On topic, i dont like obby flesh's 50% slower movement, that isn't really speed clear IMO.
Since you have your opinion I'll give you mine. Yes it is still a speed clear. Having a team of 8 people split up to do individual tasks (UW) is still faster then any team of 8 people doing it the old way of 1 quest at a time together as a group. You're comparing it to SF speed clears as it is now and not looking at the bigger picture.
Food for thought. There is pictures and evidence of "2" Permasins clearing UW in 33 minutes HM. Now take those 2 sins and replace them with 7 obby's/vos/spell breakers or whatever and 1 support. You still don't see this as a speed clear?
It is blatantly obvious in this thread that if SF was to be nerfed there are individuals ready to attempt to break UW again post nerf. We'll be back to square one again in no time with class discrimination running full force. PvE balance is an oxymoron. 4 years people, get with the program.
Reality Bytes!
Food for thought. There is pictures and evidence of "2" Permasins clearing UW in 33 minutes HM. Now take those 2 sins and replace them with 7 obby's/vos/spell breakers or whatever and 1 support. You still don't see this as a speed clear?
It is blatantly obvious in this thread that if SF was to be nerfed there are individuals ready to attempt to break UW again post nerf. We'll be back to square one again in no time with class discrimination running full force. PvE balance is an oxymoron. 4 years people, get with the program.
Reality Bytes!
king_trouble
The 50% movement reduction can be averted to a point if you use cupcakes, red rock candy and an essence for an obby flesh tank so in reality movement hinderance, other than that of pools, won't really effect the movement speed of a team
And yes if there is a nerf guilds specializing in scs will just come out with new builts and given enough time can and will get faster
And yes if there is a nerf guilds specializing in scs will just come out with new builts and given enough time can and will get faster
Show Some Skin
If everyone wants UW and every other place to be not farmed (not including me, i like farming for shiney things) have some monster have Well of the Profane? Yet it wouldnt be an exact kill to farming but make it harder 
Amnel Ithtirsol
I'd laugh if they nerfed SF, Prot Spirit and Obsidian Flesh in one go 
What will be used then? VoS Dervs?
What will be used then? VoS Dervs?
the slasher
seriously, I think the post Apok Omen firstly posted with the build ideas pretty much solves it... the 600 (maybe a 55??) monk aggroes stuff around the chamber, necro support kills this stuff, holds aggro, etc etc etc.. everything seems to work, except for one thign i didnt rly get...
ok, with obsi+ SFA you have ALOT of damage reduction+armor, but still, you'll get 50% movement speed reduction, with this, you can't get past a behe as fast... and there will be many runs in which you have to be fast or you'll get a barbed trap on you... no, this won't hurt you alot due to dmg reduction+extra armor, but it will slow you down and it will bring more charges on you which will knock you down and (eventually or maybe at first shock) interrupt your obsidian recast... even if ur nt crippled, they get to you anyhow... even iau wont help alot here
AND, if on the way to plains, plains OF ele gets charges on him, due to DMS(as oposed to increased movement speed, decreased movement speed), you won't be able to shake off the charges unless you run INTO pools or so... meaning, they will get back abit and you have to reaggro them anyhow, only solution left is to kill them...
no idea how you can stop this from happening, especially cause killing charges without iau is hard
ok, with obsi+ SFA you have ALOT of damage reduction+armor, but still, you'll get 50% movement speed reduction, with this, you can't get past a behe as fast... and there will be many runs in which you have to be fast or you'll get a barbed trap on you... no, this won't hurt you alot due to dmg reduction+extra armor, but it will slow you down and it will bring more charges on you which will knock you down and (eventually or maybe at first shock) interrupt your obsidian recast... even if ur nt crippled, they get to you anyhow... even iau wont help alot here
AND, if on the way to plains, plains OF ele gets charges on him, due to DMS(as oposed to increased movement speed, decreased movement speed), you won't be able to shake off the charges unless you run INTO pools or so... meaning, they will get back abit and you have to reaggro them anyhow, only solution left is to kill them...
no idea how you can stop this from happening, especially cause killing charges without iau is hard
impulsion
If you have damage reduction on you you probably don't need OF when running through mountins? So then you run full speed until you reach plains and need it.
king_trouble
Cupcake + Essence of Celerity + Red Rock Candy = cap speed with obsidian flesh
Also killing charge blackness without iau isnt hard, you have to watch your aggro and thier position and time your skills so they won't get hit by shock
Also killing charge blackness without iau isnt hard, you have to watch your aggro and thier position and time your skills so they won't get hit by shock
DA_TriggR
New to the forums here but not GW... Well, I did a search, couldn't come up with much, but it appears our fears have been realized here with the latest patch from GW: http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...es/default.php
Still working on some decent builds to use SF... but its pretty much screwed atm. Any ideas or suggestions would be great thnx
Still working on some decent builds to use SF... but its pretty much screwed atm. Any ideas or suggestions would be great thnx
Covah
Thanks for the 8 month bump. Just post on the new threads..........
DA_TriggR
^amazing what google will find.
Of course, we all knew this would happen some day... came up with some builds last night tho will try to post after work.
Of course, we all knew this would happen some day... came up with some builds last night tho will try to post after work.