My A/E Glacial Stone Farmer
no damage tank
The thing that a lot of you will probably ask is 'But the keg bomber is so brilliant, why not just use that?' Well, i found that the keg bomber gives bad loot, for example: maybe 1 gold and a few white items. So i thought i'd find a way to get more loot out of it. After some research, i found that killing them one at a time gave you a lot more loot. Sliver Armor, incredibly powerful, but only 3 damage vs a Spectral Vaettir?! Ok, so let's see how i can improve the power of this. Eventually i came to a conclusion, it is in this build, the AoE Sliver Perma Sin.
Skill Template: OwZTkWP9ZS6jHRnJbYJiHKVQVEA
The Skills are:
Glyph of Swiftness
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form
Crystal Wave
Tenai's Crystals
Sliver Armor
Earth Attunement
Drunken Master
What about energy management? I use a Zealous +5 Energy +20% Enchanting scythe for energy, it is truly brilliant.
But how do i use this?
1. Run from Longeye's Ledge to Jaga Moraine (Shadow Form isn't needed so just keep Drunken Master as your stance), this should take 2-3 minutes.
2. Aggro the northern group of Spectral Vaettirs, there is a spot where they do not scatter, as shown in this picture.
3. Use Crystal Wave and Tenai's Crystals until they are at low hp. Use your scythe to gain energy. The picture below shows the hp you are aiming for.
4. Now you use Glyph of Swiftness before Sliver Armor. This will take about 10 hits to kill 1 Spectral Vaettir, this will give you good loot because they are dying one at a time.
5. When only about 5 are left, just use Crystal Wave or Tenai's Crystals to finish them off.
6. Loot and enjoy. The picture below shows what you can get, although this was a very lucky run, you get at least 2-3 golds each run!
So how long will this take?
Thank you for reading, and i wish you good loot!
EDIT: People seem to think that the picture of loot is what you get always, but that was a very lucky run, as stated previously, after about 25 runs of doing this, i found that i got at least 2 golds each run.
Skill Template: OwZTkWP9ZS6jHRnJbYJiHKVQVEA
The Skills are:
Glyph of Swiftness
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form
Crystal Wave
Tenai's Crystals
Sliver Armor
Earth Attunement
Drunken Master
What about energy management? I use a Zealous +5 Energy +20% Enchanting scythe for energy, it is truly brilliant.
But how do i use this?
1. Run from Longeye's Ledge to Jaga Moraine (Shadow Form isn't needed so just keep Drunken Master as your stance), this should take 2-3 minutes.
2. Aggro the northern group of Spectral Vaettirs, there is a spot where they do not scatter, as shown in this picture.
3. Use Crystal Wave and Tenai's Crystals until they are at low hp. Use your scythe to gain energy. The picture below shows the hp you are aiming for.
4. Now you use Glyph of Swiftness before Sliver Armor. This will take about 10 hits to kill 1 Spectral Vaettir, this will give you good loot because they are dying one at a time.
5. When only about 5 are left, just use Crystal Wave or Tenai's Crystals to finish them off.
6. Loot and enjoy. The picture below shows what you can get, although this was a very lucky run, you get at least 2-3 golds each run!
So how long will this take?
Thank you for reading, and i wish you good loot!
EDIT: People seem to think that the picture of loot is what you get always, but that was a very lucky run, as stated previously, after about 25 runs of doing this, i found that i got at least 2 golds each run.
Marzipan Marci
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nice one, mate. I gotta try it.
nice one, mate. I gotta try it.
ajc2123
Nice.
Gonna use raptors this holiday just for the sheer quickness of it, but at least this one will help with my wisdom title.
Gonna use raptors this holiday just for the sheer quickness of it, but at least this one will help with my wisdom title.
mastar of warrior
to Continue ur first Sentance there, : The Keg guy was Changed, he only gives 1 keg every few seconds now, so it would take ages to kill them.
Gonna try this one now
Gonna try this one now
the Puppeteer
there's a similar build for E/Me
talon994
Simply amazing.
Biofobico
Nice build @no damage tank. Gonna try it later.
Edge Igneas
It's a very nice build indeed, just got back from it.
36 kills isn't it? It would be awesome if you could aggro the south group
Its overall great even just for Norn Title points.
I'm making a video later
36 kills isn't it? It would be awesome if you could aggro the south group
Its overall great even just for Norn Title points.
I'm making a video later
rizbiz
@Puppeteer
I used to use the e/me. the damage was like, 2x Crystals, Sliver, Obby, Swiftness, SFA, Mantra, StoneStriker i think if i remember correctly. but you needed like runes against earth damage too because if you dont you take like 1-2 damage each time and it adds up since you got no heals.
I used to use the e/me. the damage was like, 2x Crystals, Sliver, Obby, Swiftness, SFA, Mantra, StoneStriker i think if i remember correctly. but you needed like runes against earth damage too because if you dont you take like 1-2 damage each time and it adds up since you got no heals.
riceangel
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No reason (other than time, maybe?) that you can't get them too and end up with 60 kills.
Maybe i am just missing something. I think he doesnt argo the south group becuz without that corner place they will stop attacking and it would just be faster to rezone to just kill the north group
Maybe i am just missing something. I think he doesnt argo the south group becuz without that corner place they will stop attacking and it would just be faster to rezone to just kill the north group
Zonk
Well u could always use the same wall u use with the burning build to keep the south group from scattering?
zelgadissan
When I use the E/Me, I use Crystal Wave/Teinai's Crystals/Arcane Echo/Glyph of Swiftness/Obsidian Flesh/Stoneflesh Aura/Mantra of Earth/Storm Djinn's Haste (to speed up running). That build kills the entire group at the same time, and the drops are consistently just as good as the picture above. Oh, and I don't have to worry about finding a wall to hold them, because they never scatter since there's no Sliver Armor.
Nobody has ever definitively proven that you get more drops one at a time. There have been tons of thread proving it both ways. I'll enjoy the fast AoE bomb instead of dealing with the problems of Sliver. The only reason for doing this would be solely because you specifically want your assassin to gain the Norn points (or you don't have an ele)
Nobody has ever definitively proven that you get more drops one at a time. There have been tons of thread proving it both ways. I'll enjoy the fast AoE bomb instead of dealing with the problems of Sliver. The only reason for doing this would be solely because you specifically want your assassin to gain the Norn points (or you don't have an ele)
Expherious
I might aswell get my assassin there now lol
Zonk
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Oh, and I don't have to worry about finding a wall to hold them, because they never scatter since there's no Sliver Armor.
Not quite following... the need for wall is due to crystals, not sliver..
Not quite following... the need for wall is due to crystals, not sliver..
zelgadissan
At least on E/Me, they don't scatter at all. They just keep attacking me for no damage until they die.
I admittedly have not tried this on an A/E, so I'm willing to give it a try. However, I've done the other to the point that my ele is almost max Norn without doing anything but the main storyline (and the book went to Asura). So I know that one quite well.
I admittedly have not tried this on an A/E, so I'm willing to give it a try. However, I've done the other to the point that my ele is almost max Norn without doing anything but the main storyline (and the book went to Asura). So I know that one quite well.
Coney
Let me understand this completely. In HM, you kill 36 vaettir in 5 minutes, then re-zone/re-peat - for ~3-4 golds a run (gold drop rate seems way high, but W/E)?
I'd rather 100LOLz/MoP 33+ raptors every minute, for essentially the same (arguably more in the long run) number of golds. Maybe it pays off given mesmer tomes instead of assassin, but the lack of elite tomes/gold scrolls and chests makes me cringe (and I already have 2 stacks of each assassin/mesmer tomes). Glacial stones are about worthless - I have ~3 stacks, and can't even sell 100 for 5K anymore, so I just use then for alt gloves when I need re-specs.
FWIW, I'd recommend dropping the dwarf run skill for something like EBSoH, might drop the run times by 1 minute or more (max sweets with 1 cupcake/run instead, if you really think that saves any time ~15 seconds?)...
Lots of unvalidated arguments in this thread, about more drops when killing 1 at a time, and bringing leeches... Very much unsubstantiated, and certainly not one way or the other, based on my own experience...
I'd rather 100LOLz/MoP 33+ raptors every minute, for essentially the same (arguably more in the long run) number of golds. Maybe it pays off given mesmer tomes instead of assassin, but the lack of elite tomes/gold scrolls and chests makes me cringe (and I already have 2 stacks of each assassin/mesmer tomes). Glacial stones are about worthless - I have ~3 stacks, and can't even sell 100 for 5K anymore, so I just use then for alt gloves when I need re-specs.
FWIW, I'd recommend dropping the dwarf run skill for something like EBSoH, might drop the run times by 1 minute or more (max sweets with 1 cupcake/run instead, if you really think that saves any time ~15 seconds?)...
Lots of unvalidated arguments in this thread, about more drops when killing 1 at a time, and bringing leeches... Very much unsubstantiated, and certainly not one way or the other, based on my own experience...
Coney
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Originally Posted by no damage tank
2. I am just going by what ive seen, i tried about 10 runs of keg bombing... got crap loot, done about 20 of this and each time got at least 3 golds
Did it enough to realize that you could only farm about 40 minutes before /resigning to sell the golds (unless you salvaged them - pre-mech-stone).
I just want to understand why to bother with this farm now. Seems no reason, unless the gold skins are worth something (don't think so, as I can't get 1k for any gold r9 skins from here or anywhere else).
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