Make "Kind Of A Big Deal" (Maxed titles rank) account wide

Phear Me

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Originally Posted by Nodakim View Post
You reason is retarded,the duplicate titles wouldnt count towards koabd.
if you read the message you quoted once more you might actually find the he/she wrote that it PUNISHES ppl that already have a title maxed on several character.

meaning that the time the've spent maxing the title more than once has been a waste.

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Originally Posted by IronSheik View Post
Only thing I want to see account wide is sweets/drunk. I hate having to use my holiday cons stupidly all at once on one char, and never use on any other char.
Totally agree, across my character I got atleast 1,000 drunk minutes and easily 5,000 sweet tooth/party animal points.

IMO dont care about KoabD because it only gives prestige in GW2, nothing advantageous, but it would make it much nicer to have these titles account-wide.

Atlantis29

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tho i do agree with what some people are saying about other titles been accoint wide. The only ones that should not be account wide are things like
  • Cartogropha
  • Protector
  • Guardian
  • Vanquisher
    and ofc
  • KoaBD

all other things should be like im never gonna grined SS and LB on my other toons so i agree they should be account wide

tho i guess the EOTN one could be bad in some way cos the vanguard norn and asuran all link to there armors so some will say it would lower there Visual value having to only grind thease titels once but now im babbling so ill just hit submit

Shadowspawn X

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Originally Posted by Nodakim View Post
You reason is retarded,the duplicate titles wouldnt count towards koabd.
Which is exactly what i'm saying. Duplicate titles count towards individual KoaBD track as of now. If they were account wide duplicate titles would mean nothing, thus punishing people who play multiple toons who have achieved duplicate titles on them. Can your reading comprehension be any worse?

Helix Dreadlock

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Originally Posted by akyros View Post
Regardless of how one values it (prestigious or not), it is part PvP (which is acct wide) and a measure of you as a player who has worked to maxed multiple titles, not you as a particular one-profession-pony toon/character
No, it is a mixture of both, so it doesn't matter. PvP-titles already are account-wide, so just play on a PvE toon. Well, most PvP titles anyways. But even so, it's supposed to make it challenging to get, not have everything be easy.

You want easy, it makes grind.
You want hard, it makes less grind.

Live with it. It's how GW is, trying to balance it out. Why did they make DoA so hard, and w/o Henchies? To put players together AND so that getting Armbraces are tougher, and makes them expensive, thus, LESS easy to get.

Shadowhaze

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Well all in all, I doubt they'll change it. Grinding for titles is about all that's left to do unless you farm anyway. So no use bothering I suppose. But I find the "prestige" factor or having such and such a title amusing in games (be it GW or any other game). It really boils down to nothing in reality...just a personal accomplishment (that you've spent countless hours doing in a game).

Reverend Dr

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Won't have any effect.

The people that were going to farm KoaBD title, already have. Really, no one is going to start farming KoaBD now that they could do vanquisher on their monk, but cartographer on their warrior.

akyros

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Originally Posted by IronSheik View Post
I have 3000 hours over 4 years, and have two gwamms, Not only do I know more people with more than that in 2 years, but people with 4 times as much.

You may as well be talking to yourself saying that, stop posting here and enjoy life, they can enjoy it on GW, amirite.
My analogy was based on players would move on to working on PvP titles since they've basically done it all on PvE after getting their first GWAMM.

IronSheik brought up a point I do agree will punish those who have worked for more than 1 GWAMM, so unless they be compensated with other rewards I guess it'll be unfair to them

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Originally Posted by Marverick View Post
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I highly doubt it was the original intention of the game to have players play through everything with just one character. Variety was a large part of the game, at least earlier.
All titles should be account-wide. Guardian/vanquisher/etc.

If people want for doing everything on one character, then perhaps some sort of special character displayed on the title would be appropriate for the character that earned that title.



And seriously, who the hell gets GWAMM on more than one character? I don't think there's enough of those people to warrant consideration. And even if there are, those people should seriously just turn off their computer and enjoy life.
lots of people have several, a mate who quit game few months ago had 4gwamm (1st before chest/wisdom were made acc wide, next 3 the day they got made acc wide) and he didn't play gw so much neither

NeHoMaR

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Actually, I stopped to play my Elementalist and Monk (deleted my Assassin, and I have also a Necromancer and Ranger I never play), because if I want to make titles, I am "forced" to play with my Warrior; I am forced to vanquish areas with my Warrior, even when is more fun to do with Elementalist; and that's just one example, of many.

Making all titles account wide, give me a complete freedom to, for example, complete one campaign with one profession, and another campaign with another profession; use all the items (like alcohol) in every character I want (even PvP ones) without worrying at all.

Plus, from the business side; forcing people to play a single character doesn't help ArenaNet to make money; because I just need one character slot, for example. You only care about one character, so you are buying just one gender/appearance change, another example.

crazybanshee

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Nope. Many titles are account wide already. The ones that aren't basically force you to have to play that character through what you're supposed to, or are money sinks. Why should gwamm be account wide when you haven't earned it on all characters (and yes, I do have gwamm on my main)

HawkofStorms

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A.net has pretty much said that they are not going to make any more titles account wide. After they made wisdom/treasure hunter, they said that they had evaluated them all and were not going to do anything else. So... move on.

Regulus X

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I personally wouldn't mind all Sunspear, Lightbringer, Asuran, etc., etc.. type titles to go account-wide as otherwise grinding for points over and over would be such a drag. It'd save us from the headache of having to grind out each title for each player to max it and be able to apply PvE skills at their max potential. Then again I don't PvE anymore, but I do desire it in consideration of the rest who still do.

And Every passing moment's another chance to turn it all around, so while Anet may've said that they'll never touch another title with the "Account-Wide Wand" again, it doesn't mean they can't retract their decision and make some more changes as they see fit.

IronSheik

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I'd like eotn to be account wide, just a higher cap, 300-350k

king_trouble

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If eotn titles were made account wide, it would be incrediblt easy to max them out even with your suggested cap, my toons would have atleast 900k points in each title

IronSheik

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Granted yes, it's incredibly easy to max, but only 3 of my chars have them at 5+, two at r10s, and using those skills on any other toon makes me sad, because I know I'll have to grind to get full potential, Higher cap than what I said I don't care, I would max it, easier than doing it 10x

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Originally Posted by leetLoLa View Post
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its unfair for the ppl that got maxed koabd at many toons at the same a/c /=
And? There have been plenty of updates that have made things significantly easier for players. There are only a few rare cases of people getting reimbursed for their "loses" (see: Razah).

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Originally Posted by IronSheik View Post
KoaBD isn't mean to be easy.
Says who? All it is is a title that counts your other titles, there was never a "This title is super-special hard and is only for 1337 players" in the description.

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Originally Posted by Helix Dreadlock View Post
it's prestigious (sorta) let it be prestigious
Your own comment is self-contradicting. Titles are, and always will be, showy things with no purpose (outside the PvE Grind titles).

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X View Post
Which is exactly what i'm saying. Duplicate titles count towards individual KoaBD track as of now. If they were account wide duplicate titles would mean nothing, thus punishing people who play multiple toons who have achieved duplicate titles on them. Can your reading comprehension be any worse?
Yet it punishes people more for the fact that they have to basically re-do the same titles on every character they want KoaBD on. So you maxed a bunch of titles on multiple character, congrats on your "tenacity" and willingness. However, for more casual players, maxing KoaBD once can be a yearlong project that they would rather cut off their arms than do again.

pamelf

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Originally Posted by stale View Post

as far as i 'm concerned, the only two titles that shouldn't automatically be account wide are survivor and legendary defender of ascalon. even the "storyline titles" (sunspear/lightbringer) ought to be account wide.

you've ground them out once, should be enough.
Signed for this being the most true statement ever made.

king_trouble

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I don't agree with most of the pve linked alligence titles (non kurzick/luxon), just because one character has it doesn't mean another one should, you would be punishing those who have already maxed out those titles on multiple chars, same with drunk, sweets, and party. Those titles aren't hard to get, I mean pve is a walk in the park now compared to what it used to be 4 years ago. The main reason you guys want max pve titles is for the skills, if you want a max title skill on all your characters then work on it, it isn't hard to max those titles . Also Take in mind that these titles were character base to show off character achievements and the only titles that should have been made account wide have been made into such.

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Non signed... Worst surgestion i heard in a long time....

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Originally Posted by pamelf View Post
Signed for this being the most true statement ever made.
Is probably the most false statement ever made lol. A lvl 1 sunspear max rank ? and lb rank ? whats the point of the whole NF story line then ? lil quests to grind XP and with max LB you wtfpwn all NF missions with Abbadon servants lol.

Survivor and LDOA are exclusive , you will never get both unless they make it account wide. Maybe a NF or Fact char with LDOA is pretty retarded , ok , point given but that doesnt work for Survivor title. Implemented later and so many ppl could have achieved it when prop came out but now its impossible.

Arduin

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My level 7 pre-sear Ranger being a GWAMM...

...my Canthan-born Ritualist who has never been outside Factions being an instant Legendary Vanquisher...

...and my level 18 Mesmer who just entered Kamadan already being a Legendary Spearmarshal sounds bit too weird for me.

At least the now accountwide Treasure Hunter and Wisdom are obtainable without leaving the starter areas.

Aljasha

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it wouldn't make much of a difference. you don't need to max all titles to gain any benefit gameplay-wise, anyhow, you don't need to max any of the titles.

titles are some sort of character progression - and the only one in gw, though i agree with making more titles account-wide (faction titles like asura, which is only logical), i see no improvement in making koabd account-wise.

N1ghtstalker

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what about the people who have two chars with a GWAMM?
throw away the money from one GWAMM?
/notsigned

Yawgmoth

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I've been suggesting this for YEARS!

This is how it should have been from the beginning - the achievement aggregation mechanic should reward the player not a single character!
Every character should be able to contribute to your overall rank, depending on how you like to play the game.
They did it right with HoM (finally), but HoM matters only for GW2! But GW2 is Years away and we need something that would matter here.

Making KoaBD account based would NOT make it any easier! It would still count Unique Max'ed Titles on the account. You would still need to make all 3 vanquish titles on one character for the Legendary (free +1 maxed title), only the character that did it would be able to show it. Your fresh new created Para would be able to show GWAMM, but he wouldn't show Legendary Guardian as those should remain character-based.

Sadly there are many people who have grinded more than 1 GWAMM for some reason and a rework of this title would suck for them. So there are:

*ALTERNATIVES*

--1-- FIX the SURVIVOR title already! This is KEY if KoaBD is to remain char-based.

Characters created before Factions release (that are not LDoA or still in Pre) are permanently disadvantaged now, they should get at least that 1 FAIR chance at attempting this title. Plenty of good ideas on how to do it were discussed in numerous threads about it.

--2-- A NEW TITLE (or something else entirely new)
If KoaBD is to remain character-based, there should be another *achievement aggregation mechanic* that would be account-based and that would matter here in GW1.

My suggestion for this was a Title that would count the number of total Unlocks on your "Honor" monument in your Account-HoM and IMHO it would be a much BETTER solution than changing KoaBD.

THIS would be the best AND simpliest way of showing a PLAYER'S (not character's) total overall achievements standing, without stupid restrictions. A worthy reward for the most dedicated fans who experienced both PvE and PvP in all formats.

Max'ing this 52/52 would be much more meaningfull and skill reflecting than GWAMM is, and would be actually reasonably achievable compared to an absurridic grind required for rank7 GWAMM that some players want. THIS would be a greatly better idea - a vialbe alternative accessible to players who don't stick to just one character.

THIS would be the much needed alternative to GWAMM for all of us who don't want extreme dedication to just 1 char and prefer free playstyle. Totally in the spirit of the Account-HoM update itself.

And both titles can exist together. The new title wouldn't hurt the meaning of any existing title or achievement, nobody would lose anything, and I can't see a single 1 good reason against it.

--3-- Not an alternative, but something that should also be done: The Sweet/Drunk/Party titles - there's absolutely NO reason not to change them in the same way as Treasure/Wisdom titles were, and there are exactly the same reasons TO DO SO. (1 exception - exclude Pre-Searing - simply don't convert Pre characters' titles to account as long as they remain there)


** /SIGNED because something SHOULD be done. **