I recently saw some screenshots of Aion and immediately thought how similar the hud setup and environment looked to GW, albeit slightly improved graphically.
It also striked me how similar the character artwork has been to guild wars.
Got me thinking on the relationship between ANet and NCSoft. I really have no idea how it all works. Can NCSoft use ANet staff, programmers and artists and vice versa, as the need dictates...or is Aion and GW totally different projects, with different staff and one overseeing developer? If so how come there is such similarity between the projects?
Also, does Aion development hinder the development of GW2?
Curious
Aion and GW, NCSoft and Anet?
thoth_au
Zinger314
Fantasy games looking similar. Impossible.
Aion is 100% irrelevant to GW. (Unless Aion somehow managed to bankrupt NCSoft. Then ArenaNet goes bankrupt and GW goes bye-bye)
Aion is 100% irrelevant to GW. (Unless Aion somehow managed to bankrupt NCSoft. Then ArenaNet goes bankrupt and GW goes bye-bye)
Inde
Aion is all NCSoft.
Guild Wars is all ArenaNet. (In terms of development.)
You'll see similar styles just like anything Blizzard has a slightly more cartoonish look. Anything Turbine... well I can spot a Turbine screenshot from a mile away. I imagine this is all it is.
Guild Wars is all ArenaNet. (In terms of development.)
You'll see similar styles just like anything Blizzard has a slightly more cartoonish look. Anything Turbine... well I can spot a Turbine screenshot from a mile away. I imagine this is all it is.
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Ec]-[oMaN
Totally different development teams working on the two. If you've ever played Lineage2, Aion resembles that more than GW, the target icons, huds, the way the characters look and motion animations, Aion is L2 with wings...
pumpkin pie
nah they look different, Aion has manga style looking character with overly elaborated decorated rococo style armor, which is, I think of poor taste.
GW beautiful
GW beautiful
Demon Slaya Of God
to me it seems more of a mix between D2 and Gw. idk why tho. just talking about the display
Agar
Aion has awesome graphics (played beta) and its style is more anime like that GW. Too bad Aion is the reason GW2 info is delayed...oh well patience till September.
Fril Estelin
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Aion is all NCSoft.
Guild Wars is all ArenaNet. (In terms of development.) You'll see similar styles just like anything Blizzard has a slightly more cartoonish look. Anything Turbine... well I can spot a Turbine screenshot from a mile away. I imagine this is all it is. |
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10333932
I recently read a lot of comments of Aion players impressed by how the game would run on modest computers...reminds you of GW doesn't it? Similarly for the quest system, a class system which is not so far from GW (but that can be wrong as classes in MMOs don't get so original).
AKB48
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
nah they look different, Aion has manga style looking character with overly elaborated decorated rococo style armor, which is, I think of poor taste.
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Dakka Dakka
the reason why GW and AION look similar is probably because they are using the same game engine, or a variation of it. I read somewhere that ANET allows NCSOFT to use the engine for there own games. Shame I can't remember where I read it or else I would link it. 
KZaske
I might be wrong here, but I thought I read that ArenaNet developed the game engine that almost all of NCSoft is using, and Aion uses (I would guess) a 2.0 version of that game engine. I think that was in an interview shortly before GW2 was announced.
Gigashadow
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Originally Posted by KZaske
I might be wrong here, but I thought I read that ArenaNet developed the game engine that almost all of NCSoft is using, and Aion uses (I would guess) a 2.0 version of that game engine. I think that was in an interview shortly before GW2 was announced.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryEngine
The logo for the CryEngine is even on Aion's startup screen.
4thVariety
Aion is using Crytec 1.0 engine, you might remember it from the original Farcry. The engine has bee modified here and there to exceed the original specs. Aion engine has nothing to do with GW engine.
The GUI is very different from GW. Sure, they got a radar, but who hasn't. In GW the radar is more of an aggro management tool than anything else, for navigation you need to open another map really, or know the way. Health and energy bars are also no surprise there. It's the classic MMO setup. The peripheral vision on the screen is clustered with bars and numbers, while the little room remaining in the center in is mostly obstructed by the back of your own character.
NCwest does have its fingers in Aion development to some degree. In the U.S. and Europe there will be a "westernized" version of the game, i.e. less grind, different quest texts. Infos about the differences are sketchy at best currently.
As for the visuals of Anime girls in Rococo attire.....
...it might be awesome to some, but it will scare away at least as many people. But that is to be expected of any art style.
The GUI is very different from GW. Sure, they got a radar, but who hasn't. In GW the radar is more of an aggro management tool than anything else, for navigation you need to open another map really, or know the way. Health and energy bars are also no surprise there. It's the classic MMO setup. The peripheral vision on the screen is clustered with bars and numbers, while the little room remaining in the center in is mostly obstructed by the back of your own character.
NCwest does have its fingers in Aion development to some degree. In the U.S. and Europe there will be a "westernized" version of the game, i.e. less grind, different quest texts. Infos about the differences are sketchy at best currently.
As for the visuals of Anime girls in Rococo attire.....
...it might be awesome to some, but it will scare away at least as many people. But that is to be expected of any art style.
deluxe
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Originally Posted by Dakka Dakka
the reason why GW and AION look similar is probably because they are using the same game engine, or a variation of it. I read somewhere that ANET allows NCSOFT to use the engine for there own games. Shame I can't remember where I read it or else I would link it.
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Aion uses a modded Crytek engine. (FarCry)
edit: 5 minutes late
daraaksii
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Originally Posted by Dakka Dakka
the reason why GW and AION look similar is probably because they are using the same game engine, or a variation of it. I read somewhere that ANET allows NCSOFT to use the engine for there own games. Shame I can't remember where I read it or else I would link it.
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Dakka Dakka
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Originally Posted by deluxe
No, Guild Wars uses an engine created by Arenanet themselves.
Aion uses a modded Crytek engine. (FarCry) edit: 5 minutes late |
Ahhh ok thanks for the clarification
Solas
Would have been nice if people that played other Ncwest games could get into the beta, or at least a trial beta
looks soo good
looks soo good
Arduin
To be honest, after playing Aion for some Beta, it's not looking anything like Guild Wars.
Like Ec]-[oMaN already mentioned, to me it's more like Lineage2. With all it's shortcomings too. But with Wings
Like Ec]-[oMaN already mentioned, to me it's more like Lineage2. With all it's shortcomings too. But with Wings
Abedeus
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Originally Posted by Solas
Would have been nice if people that played other Ncwest games could get into the beta, or at least a trial beta
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I also remember that I was offering a betakey for 3rd Closed Beta and only one person after a week PMed me.
Oh, and if you were one of the subscribers of Tabula Rasa (till the end, doesn't count if you have ended the subscription even a week before the news), you get the beta key to both CB and OB.
therangereminem
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Originally Posted by Solas
Would have been nice if people that played other Ncwest games could get into the beta, or at least a trial beta
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they did trulba rusa accoutn allget 1 month of aion plus all beta events
other then that just preorder the game cost 5 bucks at ebgames bestbuy or gamestop
if youwant to pay for the game in full upfront youcan do this on ncsoft website steam(which has it for a very low price) and there a couple of websites
not steam and ncsoft do digital downloads oyouw illnot getthe box, which dont matter anyways the boxed versionof c/e is sold out world wide... i have two copy's lol
there is a plus to the digital copys you get 37 days free time instead of 30
otherways to get beta keys are easy there is some websites that give them away for each beta .. but if you like the game from the videos just preorder it from steam 60 bucks for c/e 40 for reg.. and you get all betas closed and open and 42 hour head start
Solas
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
There have been maaany fansite contests to get a betakey.
I also remember that I was offering a betakey for 3rd Closed Beta and only one person after a week PMed me. Oh, and if you were one of the subscribers of Tabula Rasa (till the end, doesn't count if you have ended the subscription even a week before the news), you get the beta key to both CB and OB. |
Yeah, I know I was late to the party><
I tried the BTU.com thing but time zones got the better of me,
Wish I had seen your post,
but yeah, that was more of moving a crowd from one game (TR) to another (Aoin). Wasn't open to Linage, CoH/CoV gw etc.
Which on reflection makes sense as the other two have monthly fees...so they would be competing with each other...so nvm that point.
Morale: don't be late for the party...
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Originally Posted by therangereminem
otherways to get beta keys are easy there is some websites that give them away for each beta .. but if you like the game from the videos just preorder it from steam 60 bucks for c/e 40 for reg.. and you get all betas closed and open and 42 hour head start
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ne33us
@thoth_au
LIke others correctly pointed out, Aion is more like Lineage 2.
I'd call it an extremely polished Lineage 2.
Yes, I believe Aion stood in the way of Guild Wars 2.
It would not be a good marketing practice on behalf of NCsoft to launch (even in beta stages) a "no monthly fees" fantasy MMO along side with Aion, same genre "with monthly fees".
Of course I could also be totally wrong and GW2 is really in very early stages of development.
Whatever the case, I will still enjoy GW for as long as I can
@Solas
I very much doubt that the people that played Tabula Rasa will ever play Aion as "replacement".
They are completely different games.
LIke others correctly pointed out, Aion is more like Lineage 2.
I'd call it an extremely polished Lineage 2.
Yes, I believe Aion stood in the way of Guild Wars 2.
It would not be a good marketing practice on behalf of NCsoft to launch (even in beta stages) a "no monthly fees" fantasy MMO along side with Aion, same genre "with monthly fees".
Of course I could also be totally wrong and GW2 is really in very early stages of development.
Whatever the case, I will still enjoy GW for as long as I can
@Solas
I very much doubt that the people that played Tabula Rasa will ever play Aion as "replacement".
They are completely different games.
Nature Loves Me
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They did, Tabula Rasa accounts all got 1 month of Aion plus all beta events.
Other than that, just preorder the game, it costs 5 bucks at ebgames, Bestbuy, or Gamestop If you want to pay for the game fully upfront, you can do this on the NCsoft website, Steam(which has it for a very low price), and there are a couple of other websites. Note: Steam and NCsoft do Digital Downloads. You will not get the box, which doesn't matter anyways since the boxed Collector's Edition is sold out world wide... I have two copy's lol. There is a plus to the digital copies: You get 37 days free time instead of 30. Otherwise to get beta keys, it is easy. There are some websites that give them away for each beta .. but if you like the game from the videos just pre-order it from Steam 60 bucks for Collector's Edition. 40 for reg.. and you get all betas closed and open and 42 hour head start |
lol12chars
Arduin
I'm pretty sure it's a 24 hour headstart.
vamp08
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Originally Posted by Dakka Dakka
the reason why GW and AION look similar is probably because they are using the same game engine, or a variation of it. I read somewhere that ANET allows NCSOFT to use the engine for there own games. Shame I can't remember where I read it or else I would link it.
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damkel
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Originally Posted by vamp08
Nope, AION uses the CryEngine; Guild Wars nowhere near clears anything close to the CryEngine. I mean for god's sake, Guild Wars doesn't even have physics.
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Aion and GW2 have different development teams but surely they will use very similar (if not the same) design tools...and hopefully the same game engine? Which would be most welcoming looking at the game play videos on the Aion site.
Ghost Omel
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Originally Posted by damkel
Yes true, but GW2 will have a Z-axis (and therefore will have realistic physics laws in place?).
Aion and GW2 have different development teams but surely they will use very similar (if not the same) design tools...and hopefully the same game engine? Which would be most welcoming looking at the game play videos on the Aion site. |
Guild Wars is developed by ArenaNet....what makes you say they will use same tools?
For Guild wars NcSoft is a publisher if my memory serves me right. Well the fact they own it to but it doesnt mean they will use identical tools.. Maybe funds are shared but technolgy not so much.
Regina Buenaobra
The Aion and GW development teams are entirely separate. Aion is developed in Korea and GW is developed in the US.
Ghost Omel
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
The Aion and GW development teams are entirely separate. Aion is developed in Korea and GW is developed in the US.
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See i told you they are separate =)
Lishy
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
GW is developed in the US.
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Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
The Aion and GW development teams are entirely separate. Aion is developed in Korea and GW is developed in the US.
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(if so, this would mean that it's just a coincidence that the two games run superbly on modest computers or have many design commonalities)
Lishy
I think they run well on many computers due to NCSoft turning down what could be the conspiracy of Graphic Card companies bribing game developers to make their games to be high-specs when they shouldn't have to be ^
Ghost Omel
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
I think they run well on many computers due to NCSoft turning down what could be the conspiracy of Graphic Card companies bribing game developers to make their games to be high-specs when they shouldn't have to be ^
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BenjZee
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Score one for non-Asian developers!
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I have to admit i've jsut seen some videos and ofcourse there will similar concepts in all MMOs but one character i swear looks like my ellementalist exactly and same armor
thebible
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Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN
Totally different development teams working on the two. If you've ever played Lineage2, Aion resembles that more than GW, the target icons, huds, the way the characters look and motion animations, Aion is L2 with wings...
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daraaksii
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Originally Posted by Arduinna
I'm pretty sure it's a 24 hour headstart.
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HawkofStorms
Well, they are separate, but there is some similarities to their art style. Most noticeably, actually having fairly true to life character models instead of the highly stylized (like Star Wars: The Old Republic) or cartoonish (WoW) or gritty (Warhammer) character designs you see elsewhere.
Gigashadow
Speaking of both Aion and GW2, I discovered another voice actor who is actually used in both games. Check this out:
http://www.sobolov.com/
Unfortunately, he seems sworn to secrecy on what he did in GW2.
He has an awesome evil voice though.
http://www.sobolov.com/
Unfortunately, he seems sworn to secrecy on what he did in GW2.
He has an awesome evil voice though.
Axeman002
not sure if im allowed to post video's or not..if so just remove mods.
this is the difference between GW and Aion, a guildmate of mine playing the Beta...this is his gameplay without skillbars etc.
all MMO's are going to look the same if its all woodland etc but this seems to be my stopgap till GW2 is out...i had a go of beta but my pc couldnt hack it lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfEfedsuHWw
this is the difference between GW and Aion, a guildmate of mine playing the Beta...this is his gameplay without skillbars etc.
all MMO's are going to look the same if its all woodland etc but this seems to be my stopgap till GW2 is out...i had a go of beta but my pc couldnt hack it lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfEfedsuHWw
AOD_EaSyKiLL
Biggest difference between Aion and GW is that Aion installs a rootkit on your PC called GameGuard. If you thought Starforce was bad, wait till you see it.
I cancelled my Pre-Order after GameGuard crashed my invoicing software on my company's PCs today. Major "Oh Crap" moment there.
I cancelled my Pre-Order after GameGuard crashed my invoicing software on my company's PCs today. Major "Oh Crap" moment there.