Aion and GW, NCSoft and Anet?

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thoth_au
Ascalonian Squire
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I recently saw some screenshots of Aion and immediately thought how similar the hud setup and environment looked to GW, albeit slightly improved graphically.

It also striked me how similar the character artwork has been to guild wars.

Got me thinking on the relationship between ANet and NCSoft. I really have no idea how it all works. Can NCSoft use ANet staff, programmers and artists and vice versa, as the need dictates...or is Aion and GW totally different projects, with different staff and one overseeing developer? If so how come there is such similarity between the projects?

Also, does Aion development hinder the development of GW2?

Curious
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#2
Fantasy games looking similar. Impossible.

Aion is 100% irrelevant to GW. (Unless Aion somehow managed to bankrupt NCSoft. Then ArenaNet goes bankrupt and GW goes bye-bye)
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Inde
Site Contributor
#3
Aion is all NCSoft.

Guild Wars is all ArenaNet. (In terms of development.)

You'll see similar styles just like anything Blizzard has a slightly more cartoonish look. Anything Turbine... well I can spot a Turbine screenshot from a mile away. I imagine this is all it is.
Ec]-[oMaN
Ec]-[oMaN
Desert Nomad
#4
Totally different development teams working on the two. If you've ever played Lineage2, Aion resembles that more than GW, the target icons, huds, the way the characters look and motion animations, Aion is L2 with wings...
pumpkin pie
pumpkin pie
Furnace Stoker
#5
nah they look different, Aion has manga style looking character with overly elaborated decorated rococo style armor, which is, I think of poor taste.

GW beautiful
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Demon Slaya Of God
Ascalonian Squire
#6
to me it seems more of a mix between D2 and Gw. idk why tho. just talking about the display
Agar
Agar
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
Aion has awesome graphics (played beta) and its style is more anime like that GW. Too bad Aion is the reason GW2 info is delayed...oh well patience till September.
Fril Estelin
Fril Estelin
So Serious...
#8
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Originally Posted by Inde View Post
Aion is all NCSoft.

Guild Wars is all ArenaNet. (In terms of development.)

You'll see similar styles just like anything Blizzard has a slightly more cartoonish look. Anything Turbine... well I can spot a Turbine screenshot from a mile away. I imagine this is all it is.
I think there's more to it, in particular as Anet executives (Jeff, Patt) became NCsoft/west executives. I already had a suspicion a while ago:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10333932

I recently read a lot of comments of Aion players impressed by how the game would run on modest computers...reminds you of GW doesn't it? Similarly for the quest system, a class system which is not so far from GW (but that can be wrong as classes in MMOs don't get so original).
AKB48
AKB48
Jungle Guide
#9
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
nah they look different, Aion has manga style looking character with overly elaborated decorated rococo style armor, which is, I think of poor taste.

GW beautiful
So Aion is more of an Archlord look then? Not bad.
Dakka Dakka
Dakka Dakka
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
the reason why GW and AION look similar is probably because they are using the same game engine, or a variation of it. I read somewhere that ANET allows NCSOFT to use the engine for there own games. Shame I can't remember where I read it or else I would link it.
KZaske
KZaske
Jungle Guide
#11
I might be wrong here, but I thought I read that ArenaNet developed the game engine that almost all of NCSoft is using, and Aion uses (I would guess) a 2.0 version of that game engine. I think that was in an interview shortly before GW2 was announced.
Gigashadow
Gigashadow
Jungle Guide
#12
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Originally Posted by KZaske View Post
I might be wrong here, but I thought I read that ArenaNet developed the game engine that almost all of NCSoft is using, and Aion uses (I would guess) a 2.0 version of that game engine. I think that was in an interview shortly before GW2 was announced.
Aion uses the CryEngine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryEngine

The logo for the CryEngine is even on Aion's startup screen.
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4thVariety
Krytan Explorer
#13
Aion is using Crytec 1.0 engine, you might remember it from the original Farcry. The engine has bee modified here and there to exceed the original specs. Aion engine has nothing to do with GW engine.

The GUI is very different from GW. Sure, they got a radar, but who hasn't. In GW the radar is more of an aggro management tool than anything else, for navigation you need to open another map really, or know the way. Health and energy bars are also no surprise there. It's the classic MMO setup. The peripheral vision on the screen is clustered with bars and numbers, while the little room remaining in the center in is mostly obstructed by the back of your own character.

NCwest does have its fingers in Aion development to some degree. In the U.S. and Europe there will be a "westernized" version of the game, i.e. less grind, different quest texts. Infos about the differences are sketchy at best currently.

As for the visuals of Anime girls in Rococo attire.....
...it might be awesome to some, but it will scare away at least as many people. But that is to be expected of any art style.
deluxe
deluxe
Desert Nomad
#14
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Originally Posted by Dakka Dakka View Post
the reason why GW and AION look similar is probably because they are using the same game engine, or a variation of it. I read somewhere that ANET allows NCSOFT to use the engine for there own games. Shame I can't remember where I read it or else I would link it.
No, Guild Wars uses an engine created by Arenanet themselves.
Aion uses a modded Crytek engine. (FarCry)

edit: 5 minutes late
daraaksii
daraaksii
Desert Nomad
#15
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Originally Posted by Dakka Dakka View Post
the reason why GW and AION look similar is probably because they are using the same game engine, or a variation of it. I read somewhere that ANET allows NCSOFT to use the engine for there own games. Shame I can't remember where I read it or else I would link it.
Aion is using CryEngine 1.0
Dakka Dakka
Dakka Dakka
Frost Gate Guardian
#16
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Originally Posted by deluxe View Post
No, Guild Wars uses an engine created by Arenanet themselves.
Aion uses a modded Crytek engine. (FarCry)

edit: 5 minutes late

Ahhh ok thanks for the clarification
Solas
Solas
Desert Nomad
#17
Would have been nice if people that played other Ncwest games could get into the beta, or at least a trial beta

looks soo good
Arduin
Arduin
Grotto Attendant
#18
To be honest, after playing Aion for some Beta, it's not looking anything like Guild Wars.

Like Ec]-[oMaN already mentioned, to me it's more like Lineage2. With all it's shortcomings too. But with Wings
Abedeus
Abedeus
Grotto Attendant
#19
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Originally Posted by Solas View Post
Would have been nice if people that played other Ncwest games could get into the beta, or at least a trial beta

looks soo good
There have been maaany fansite contests to get a betakey.

I also remember that I was offering a betakey for 3rd Closed Beta and only one person after a week PMed me.

Oh, and if you were one of the subscribers of Tabula Rasa (till the end, doesn't count if you have ended the subscription even a week before the news), you get the beta key to both CB and OB.
therangereminem
therangereminem
Jungle Guide
#20
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Originally Posted by Solas View Post
Would have been nice if people that played other Ncwest games could get into the beta, or at least a trial beta

looks soo good

they did trulba rusa accoutn allget 1 month of aion plus all beta events

other then that just preorder the game cost 5 bucks at ebgames bestbuy or gamestop

if youwant to pay for the game in full upfront youcan do this on ncsoft website steam(which has it for a very low price) and there a couple of websites
not steam and ncsoft do digital downloads oyouw illnot getthe box, which dont matter anyways the boxed versionof c/e is sold out world wide... i have two copy's lol

there is a plus to the digital copys you get 37 days free time instead of 30

otherways to get beta keys are easy there is some websites that give them away for each beta .. but if you like the game from the videos just preorder it from steam 60 bucks for c/e 40 for reg.. and you get all betas closed and open and 42 hour head start