couldnt find a better place to put this so i hope it works
over the last 3 days i have tried to buy about 5 q9 dryad bows, i offer around 120e at the start and they always take it. when i open trade every time the bow is 14-28 and not max. not a big deal i know but the people i try to sell it too might want max and its just not a risk i want to take.
i think its pretty shitty that non max weapons that are exclusive to a dungeon chest are not even max.
i just wanted to share my frustration with the community and hear what you think
dryad bows being non max?
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Tomm
If I got non-max rare weapon, I would be so mad and destroy it right away.
Not merch it, not salvage it, not drop it... destroy it!
Not merch it, not salvage it, not drop it... destroy it!
Martin Alvito
This happens occasionally with drops like the Dryad Bow, and it seems to happen more often to players that have been farming the same dungeon repeatedly.
If you're offering less than the "market" value of the item, you have to watch out very carefully for players offering non-max items.
More than likely it's one or two bows that are either being sold on alts or that have been passed around.
If you're offering less than the "market" value of the item, you have to watch out very carefully for players offering non-max items.
More than likely it's one or two bows that are either being sold on alts or that have been passed around.
Verene
Do you mean that the mods aren't max? Because 14-28 is max for a bow.
Wait, nvm, it's 15-28. Never mind me here, my brain is fried. Yeah, I can see that being kind of annoying, as well as a bit weird.
Wait, nvm, it's 15-28. Never mind me here, my brain is fried. Yeah, I can see that being kind of annoying, as well as a bit weird.
Black Metal
wow q9 dryad bow that's 1 short of max
BRUTAL
BRUTAL
talon994
On the bright side you can buy it cheaper.
Twin Blade Warriror
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wow q9 dryad bow that's 1 short of max
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Yawgmoth
All lv24+ gold/purple Bows, Hammers, Daggers have about ~0.1-0.2% chance to drop 1-off max damage. It's normal.
Bad drops happen, get used to it. I hate crybabies who want ALL their drops to be absolutely perfect. Even the 99.9% chance is not enough... lame.
Bad drops happen, get used to it. I hate crybabies who want ALL their drops to be absolutely perfect. Even the 99.9% chance is not enough... lame.
The Air Revenger
ive only seen bows drop one off max (happens from z-chest alot) ive never seen anyother weapon drop one off max other than a bow
DarkGanni
During many UW runs I have had 7-16 dmg daggers, now I know it's not a big deal as most daggers are cheap. I guess the only fix I can see here is to make weapons drop always max damage from end chests.
Bob Slydell
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hehe yeah that really suks man
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
All lv24+ gold/purple Bows, Hammers, Daggers have about ~0.1-0.2% chance to drop 1-off max damage. It's normal.
Bad drops happen, get used to it. I hate crybabies who want ALL their drops to be absolutely perfect. Even the 99.9% chance is not enough... lame. |
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
All lv24+ gold/purple Bows, Hammers, Daggers have about ~0.1-0.2% chance to drop 1-off max damage. It's normal.
Bad drops happen, get used to it. I hate crybabies who want ALL their drops to be absolutely perfect. Even the 99.9% chance is not enough... lame. |
i agree, if its level 20 content you should get max weapons. the first time i bought one it was 14-28 and i didnt notice, but i still sold it for 143e
Kumu Honua
It seems to me...
The lower the req required on an item the better chance it is to be non-max damage.
Yes, you can find R9 15-28 bows, but many times they are 14-28. On the flip side, every time I find an R13 it's always max damage.
The lower the req required on an item the better chance it is to be non-max damage.
Yes, you can find R9 15-28 bows, but many times they are 14-28. On the flip side, every time I find an R13 it's always max damage.
IronSheik
I've ran Rragar's upwards of 80+ish times and seen 3 drops, 2 being q9 14-28
kets
To be worried about 1 damage is stupid.. if 1 damage means so much to you then u must be doing very little damage to be QQ'ing about 1 extra damage.
Xenomortis
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After almost 4 years and beating all games I feel I deserve the perfect drops. I'm sure many other can speak for that too.
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IronSheik
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To be worried about 1 damage is stupid.. if 1 damage means so much to you then u must be doing very little damage to be QQ'ing about 1 extra damage.
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kets
CUSTOMIZE IT THEN!!! theres ya 1 extra damage
own age myname
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1 damage is the difference between 100k for a q9 dryad or 150e. Tell everyone that buys them for 150e that.
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kets
if you have any q9 non max damage then ill buy every single one u get for 100k
Yichi
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After almost 4 years and beating all games I feel I deserve the perfect drops. I'm sure many other can speak for that too.
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Mad Lord of Milk
You're paying for the best. Therefore, it should be the best.
I would find this annoying as well.
I would find this annoying as well.
Spiritweaver
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1 damage is the difference between 100k for a q9 dryad or 150e. Tell everyone that buys them for 150e that.
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Having such a massive difference over one point of damage is retarded.
Dzjudz
Yes a guildie of mine also got a 14-28 Dryad Bow recently.
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CUSTOMIZE IT THEN!!! theres ya 1 extra damage
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my main problem with this is, why does only the dryad bow come out 14-28, its an end chest. thats pretty bad. actually i have seen a non insc bds that was pretty harsh
Dzjudz
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actually i have seen a non insc bds that was pretty harsh
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Edit: deathbane bug? on eotn end chest items?
MagmaRed
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Screenshot or it didn't happen. The BDS comes from only one place, a dungeon end chest in eotn. All blues/purples/golds in eotn are inscribable.
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Mr. Undisclosed
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Sife
*Looks at favorite pair of q9 celestial daggers*
...7-16?
This whole time I thought 7-16 was max on daggers.
I am dissapoint.
...7-16?
This whole time I thought 7-16 was max on daggers.
I am dissapoint.
Goddess Of Defense
Wow, this thread reminded me of my non-max silverwing recurve bow that I had to sell for half the original price... I cried so much on the inside. The fact that anything drops non-max in an end chest is a cruel joke.
Tenebrae
It seems kinda like a bug to me. High end chests drop always R9-13 so weapons should be always max dmg and insc. Never seen a Eternal Blade or Draconic aegis lacking 1 dmg/armor ....
Dzjudz
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. What a shame.
Coney
I've seen weapon drops that are 1 off on the max, but never only 1 off on the min (hunting for inscribable r7/8's). When the min was 1 off, the max was also at least 1-2 off. This does sound a bit buggy to me. I assume this is dropping in HM as well?
FWIW, 14-28 is 21 avg, 15-28 is 21.5 avg, so ~2.5% lower damage on average...
FWIW, 14-28 is 21 avg, 15-28 is 21.5 avg, so ~2.5% lower damage on average...
AKB48
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
If you're offering less than the "market" value of the item, you have to watch out very carefully for players offering non-max items.
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IronSheik
I've seen many a non-max weapon come from FoW/UW,Also including a few uninscribable, no rare skins though without max damage.
And Afaik the Old deathsbane bug was fixed, so uninscribable seems random to my knowledge...because I've seen a eternal blade with no inherent mod, and then one with a 14^stance.
And Afaik the Old deathsbane bug was fixed, so uninscribable seems random to my knowledge...because I've seen a eternal blade with no inherent mod, and then one with a 14^stance.
zwei2stein
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I've seen weapon drops that are 1 off on the max, but never only 1 off on the min (hunting for inscribable r7/8's). When the min was 1 off, the max was also at least 1-2 off. This does sound a bit buggy to me. I assume this is dropping in HM as well?
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q8 can get very rarely max (on focii for example).
q9 is mostly max, but not guaranteed.
q10 and larger is guaranteed max.
As i understand it, item generation code starts with rolling req, deriving inherent mods from it, then independently rolling color and deriving exchangeable mods from it.
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FWIW, 14-28 is 21 avg, 15-28 is 21.5 avg, so ~2.5% lower damage on average...
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Sword Hammer Axe
I keep getting that! Hell I got a 14-20 emerald sword from Kathandrax. I was so pissed off I salvaged it. At least it had a perfect +30 fortitude. Had my first dungeon-only max damage drop yesterday though. r11 clockwork scythe ^^
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Originally Posted by Goddess Of Defense
Wow, this thread reminded me of my non-max silverwing recurve bow that I had to sell for half the original price... I cried so much on the inside. The fact that anything drops non-max in an end chest is a cruel joke.
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Originally Posted by Tenebrae
It seems kinda like a bug to me. High end chests drop always R9-13 so weapons should be always max dmg and insc. Never seen a Eternal Blade or Draconic aegis lacking 1 dmg/armor ....
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i got into an argument with someone today. i said that all voltaic spears are max damage and he said hes seen "plenty" that weren't. can anyone share some info?
Hermos
This argument is irrelevant since all Dryad Bows look crap. Lolololo
Honestly though, most people hardly pay attention, just find some moron and sell it to him for 150e. I sold a q10 or something that wasn't max for that, since I was scammed out of an Obsidian Edge for it.
Honestly though, most people hardly pay attention, just find some moron and sell it to him for 150e. I sold a q10 or something that wasn't max for that, since I was scammed out of an Obsidian Edge for it.