August Update?

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Actually, I want a new campaign for GW1. Forget about GW2.

Shewmake

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Alabama

Mo/D

I'd rather wait for GW2.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Originally Posted by Shewmake View Post
I'd rather wait for GW2.
Not if the campaign add races plus raise level to 30.

Shewmake

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Alabama

Mo/D

I'd still rather wait; the graphics in GW are great, but the graphics in GW2 will probably be spectacular. With a new campaign, I doubt we would see drastic improvements graphically. GW2 will be a fresh start.

Apok Omen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Commence Aggro [BaMf]

Mo/E

List of things probably going to be in next content update:

-Skill Update
-Removal of Heroes from GvG and HA
-Addition of Henchmen to PvP
-Something else, I really dont care what else; the above is enough.

Shrimz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Texas

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR View Post
Not if the campaign add races plus raise level to 30.
like raising to level 30 would matter lol. then they would have to go and change EVERYTHING PvE would be way too easy lol.

I'd rather them focus everything they have on GW2 and leave GW with a few updates here and there to bait us lol.

If they drop everything to work on a new campaign they would have already finished GW2 by the time they do the new campaign.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

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Originally Posted by Shewmake View Post
I'd still rather wait; the graphics in GW are great, but the graphics in GW2 will probably be spectacular. With a new campaign, I doubt we would see drastic improvements graphically. GW2 will be a fresh start.
Fancy graphics don't make anything "Fresh." They make it pretty. Very little of what little was revealed about GW2 seems "fresh." Mostly warmed-over WoW leftovers...

mrs mindy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

Temple of Ages

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Mo/E

I persoanlly beleive TOA would become a wasteland. With the nerf of permas it will essentially kill dungeons with the occasional 600's running a few. UW will become obselete. It is the same thing with every nerf, let's go back to ursan days. After Ursan was nerfed it killed DOA and people discovered perma, well now they will take away perma and someonelse will find another big farm that will be leaked.

We all know that if they nerf perma and if there isn't another big farm (discovered quick), many will quit guild wars especially with aion, DDO, and others coming out.

Guild Wars is dead, but the little flesh it has left will rot if perma is nerfed...

tasha

tasha

Auctions Mod

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

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Originally Posted by doxology83 View Post
in my mind they should have kept making expansion packs. i would pay for those. i didn't pay for anything out of the last update. if they would have put out expansion packs and added some classes with the new content it would have probably led to people buying more character slots as well. and it would have kept income coming in at a fairly steady rate. i'm not sure why they didn't keep releasing expansion packs. we are now at 2 years with nothing new and guild wars 2 still not in site.
Because throwing more skills and classes at a game that emphasises the use of those skills over equipment makes it harder and harder to balance and manage. This is a result of the sheer number of permutations of skills you can fit in a bar - more skills more variations, more ways to use and abuse, ergo harder to manage. It ends up damaging the game more than it benefits it in terms of balance and increases the entry barrier to new players (who now have even more skills to unlock before they can be considered useful). There's more reasons than that, but that's a start.

OT: I'm not holding my breath for an update. This fan has been burnt a few too many times to keep faith in time lines until the content (whatever that is) has been delivered. April's update was a thumbs up from me but the hype and teasers about this one has been nearly non existent. Or is that a reaction to Aion?

Arkantos

Arkantos

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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DoA is dead because the rewards are crap, and it takes a lot more effort than other elite areas.

ToA, on the other hand, has good rewards, and little effort. It's not going to die if speed clears get nerfed.

mrs mindy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

Temple of Ages

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Mo/E

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Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
DoA is dead because the rewards are crap, and it takes a lot more effort than other elite areas.

ToA, on the other hand, has good rewards, and little effort. It's not going to die if speed clears get nerfed.
so you're saying that if sc's get nerfed you are willing to spend 4 hour in uw when you can fail easy and share ecto drops with 8 people.... lol have fun

Arkantos

Arkantos

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Originally Posted by mrs mindy View Post
so you're saying that if sc's get nerfed you are willing to spend 4 hour in uw when you can fail easy and share ecto drops with 8 people.... lol have fun
*Meant to say shadow form, not speed clears.

You are aware that even if SF gets nerfed, groups will still be able to do speed clears, right? Shadow form isn't the biggest problem, it just makes things faster. The problem lies within the design of the UW and FoW. If shadow form gets nerfed people are simply going to move onto the next best thing. As long as the design for the UW and FoW aren't changed, there will always be 'speed clears'. Even if ANet changed the design for both of these areas making it impossible to split up and clear individual areas at the same time, they will never die. People will always desire ecto, shards, eternal blades, obsidian edges, and all the other rare, valuable items you can obtain from these two areas.

Also, pretty sure 4 hours is over exaggerating just a little bit.

mrs mindy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

Temple of Ages

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Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
*Meant to say shadow form, not speed clears.

You are aware that even if SF gets nerfed, groups will still be able to do speed clears, right? Shadow form isn't the biggest problem, it just makes things faster. The problem lies within the design of the UW and FoW. If shadow form gets nerfed people are simply going to move onto the next best thing. As long as the design for the UW and FoW aren't changed, there will always be 'speed clears'. Even if ANet changed the design for both of these areas making it impossible to split up and clear individual areas at the same time, they will never die. People will always desire ecto, shards, eternal blades, obsidian edges, and all the other rare, valuable items you can obtain from these two areas.

Also, pretty sure 4 hours is over exaggerating just a little bit.
This goes along witht he DOA thing you said no one was doing:

there are still people doing DOA, so it hasn't "died" if you want to get technical about it, but UW and FoW will end up exactly like DOA, yes people will desire all of those things but there will be a new farm and people will buy those things not go and farm them. Honestly I think it will take at least 2 and a half hours for uw, just my opinion though.

Arkantos

Arkantos

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Originally Posted by mrs mindy View Post
This goes along witht he DOA thing you said no one was doing:

there are still people doing DOA, so it hasn't "died" if you want to get technical about it, but UW and FoW will end up exactly like DOA, yes people will desire all of those things but there will be a new farm and people will buy those things not go and farm them. Honestly I think it will take at least 2 and a half hours for uw, just my opinion though.
It will take that long for terrible groups. If you honestly think nerfing SF is going to make it impossible to continue with speed clears, then you are simply wrong. Granted the new speed clears wouldn't be as fast, but they're still going to be possible.

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Originally Posted by mrs mindy View Post
so you're saying that if sc's get nerfed you are willing to spend 4 hour in uw when you can fail easy and share ecto drops with 8 people.... lol have fun
In less than 4 hours you could clear UW (normal or hm) with a 55/ss. I seriously doubt an 8-player team would take anywhere near as long.

mrs mindy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

Temple of Ages

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Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
It will take that long for terrible groups. If you honestly think nerfing SF is going to make it impossible to continue with speed clears, then you are simply wrong. Granted the new speed clears wouldn't be as fast, but they're still going to be possible.
ok im going to give you they are possible where did i say they weren't??? anyways back on track, they wouldnt even be called sc's lol they would be too painful to run, we will see if and when the nerf happens my bet is toa turns out exactly like doa urgoz deep and sorrows furnace have. Of course someone will find out new builds to things but overall it will kill it imo

Champion Oni

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

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You bring up a good point about Sorrow's Furnace. When i first started playing, SF greens were 100k+, practically worthless now. i think that if Shadow form gets nerfed uw will turn into the new sorrows furnace or doa, and ectos will be made just from solo farms, whatever happened to VwK farm, FoW on the other hand is not as dependent on shadow form and will find a way around it. people will still do clears of UW but i doubt it will become quite as common and will probably stay within guild/alliance/friend groups.

A good parallel to UW is DoA. DoA:Ursan UW:SF DoA: ursan nerf=very few DoA clears but still soome going on, some solo farms for gems, very heavily farmed before nerf.
UW:after a SF nerf will have some clears and solo farms will take control. before nerf, what it is now, overly cleared in a short amount of time.

Although i have to say, i think ANet wont nerf SF. Once SF gets nerfed, i dont think id ever play with other people except for when running them and doing stuff w/ guildies. It would just destroy the atmosphere

*Sorry about spelling!

mrs mindy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

Temple of Ages

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Originally Posted by Champion Oni View Post
You bring up a good point about Sorrow's Furnace. When i first started playing, SF greens were 100k+, practically worthless now. i think that if Shadow form gets nerfed uw will turn into the new sorrows furnace or doa, and ectos will be made just from solo farms, whatever happened to VwK farm, FoW on the other hand is not as dependent on shadow form and will find a way around it. people will still do clears of UW but i doubt it will become quite as common and will probably stay within guild/alliance/friend groups.

A good parallel to UW is DoA. DoA:Ursan UW:SF DoA: ursan nerf=very few DoA clears but still soome going on, some solo farms for gems, very heavily farmed before nerf.
UW:after a SF nerf will have some clears and solo farms will take control. before nerf, what it is now, overly cleared in a short amount of time.

Although i have to say, i think ANet wont nerf SF. Once SF gets nerfed, i dont think id ever play with other people except for when running them and doing stuff w/ guildies. It would just destroy the atmosphere

*Sorry about spelling!
This is what I have been trying to say the whole time lolz. I mean it falls into a cycle almost, UW and DOA will be about the same if SF takes a nerf, I am leaving it here. Feel Free to argue if yout want, but like I said:

Guild Wars is already dead, but the little flesh it has left will rot with the SF Nerf.

As Always Goodluck and Have Fun in the game no matter what get's nerfed.

Shewmake

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Alabama

Mo/D

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Originally Posted by Targren View Post
Fancy graphics don't make anything "Fresh." They make it pretty. Very little of what little was revealed about GW2 seems "fresh." Mostly warmed-over WoW leftovers...
I didn't mean GW2 would be a fresh start because of the graphics. Altogether it will be a fresh start for me; I'm not utilizing the HoM.

False Maria

False Maria

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Legendes Infernales

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrs mindy
Guild Wars is already dead, but the little flesh it has left will rot with the SF Nerf.
Yeah yeah yeah. We've heard that old threat a thousand times already. You seriously think the only thing keeping some people playing this game is being able to perma? Those Speedclearers will leave for Aion or anywhere else as soon as they can, not when they nerf perma.

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

update is later today lets see what it all willbe all we know for sure is skill update

but i have a feeling that there going to be QQing this evening

Apok Omen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Commence Aggro [BaMf]

Mo/E

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Originally Posted by therangereminem View Post

but i have a feeling that there going to be QQing this evening
More of an expectance than a feeling...

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

assuming there is an update today

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke View Post
assuming there is an update today
there is i asked i asked a gm this week or next weeek the responce was

"should be later today" so unless something major happens later tonight update will happen

Arkantos

Arkantos

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Pretty sure the updates not going to be until next week (updates are generally on the second thursday of the month, this is the first).

Simath

Simath

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Moscow

If the only reason you play Guild Wars is to cling onto your fragile SF nonsense, you are a humongous shitter.

I hope they nerf SF so I can have many lulz at a bunch of scrubs expense.

chaosincarnate87

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Behind You ;)

DPR

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Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
Pretty sure the updates not going to be until next week (updates are generally on the second thursday of the month, this is the first).
updates generally are on the first thursday of the month unless that thursday falls before the 5th of the month, if you scroll through wiki's history of updates it shows that pattern as well.

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

a good indicator of the update incoming is when gw.com gets updated with the monthly AT winners.

Arkantos

Arkantos

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Originally Posted by chaosincarnate87 View Post
updates generally are on the first thursday of the month unless that thursday falls before the 5th of the month, if you scroll through wiki's history of updates it shows that pattern as well.
For the past 2 months, they've fallen on the second thursday (July 9th, June 11th). Before that there were updates on both the first and the second thursday. I guess it's fair to say it's either going to be today or next week, then.

Still Number One

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

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Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
For the past 2 months, they've fallen on the second thursday (July 9th, June 11th). Before that there were updates on both the first and the second thursday. I guess it's fair to say it's either going to be today or next week, then.
As far as I know, the updates have nothing to do with whether it is the first or second week of the month and everything to do with the fact that it is two weeks after the mAT's. Because some mAT's happen early because sunday may be the first of the next month, some updates occur on the first week of the next month. But even being on the first week, it is still two weeks after the mAT. And unless I'm confused with days (which is possible seeming as it is summer) I think this is the second week after the mAT.

Master Ketsu

Master Ketsu

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Join Date: May 2006

middle of nowhere

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It's best to just assume that there will never be an update, that way you are not dissapointed when it either doesn't come or comes around and fixes absolutely nothing.


If there is an update, I am expecting very little more then something like this:

Updates, August 06

*Fixed an irrelevant bug nobody ever runs into in some quest no one ever does anymore
*Fixed another bug even more irrelevant than the first one we fixed.
*XTH...not fixed ( hurr Hurrr )

Skill changes ( PvP )

Ele:
Mind Blast: capped energy gain at 5.
Meteor: Increased recharge.

Mesmer:
Distortion: energy loss now scales with fast casting ( Or some other lame fix )

Monk:
Buffed some healing elite in some way that doesn't actually increase it's viability.

Ranger:
Durrrr....no updates for ranger lolololol

Warrior:
Nerfed tactics stances again lawl lawl lawl

All the other classes:
Hurrr durrr


Skill Changes: ( PvE )

Resurrection Signet: Target ally is ressed with 100% health, 100% energy, and deals 1000 damage to all enemies in the area. For 200.......250 seconds this skill wipes your ass for you and randomly kills monsters regardless of how much of an unskilled scrub you are. This skill recharges whenever an ally dies. ( ATTR: Kind of a big deal title )

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

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Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

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Originally Posted by therangereminem View Post
there is i asked i asked a gm this week or next weeek the responce was

"should be later today" so unless something major happens later tonight update will happen
Given your posts in the past, I really don't believe you. Be nice to have some pictures to support that though.

I like how everyone thinks the game will collapse when Perma gets nerfed. If anything, that is an indicator that it should get nerfed. The entire game relying on one skill to carry them through areas.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

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Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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I sincerely doubt it'll be today.

Yoom Omer

Yoom Omer

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Israel

One Life to Live Again [Life]

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Well, how unexpected, instead of telling us whether we'll get an update and if so whats in it, no official regardment from A.net. I'm surprised.

NOT.

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo


By slientshadow

i blocked out the frist part of the gm's email becuz of the plain facts of you people spamming them and its not my email to give out
and blacked out a couple other things for other reasons

Calor Estalle

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

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I guess that's conclusive... It's still only 3pm Anet time, so we have a while.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

An update once didn't happen until 3 am or so, I remembered. Just be patient and play CoD4 or WoW in the meantime.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz View Post
An update once didn't happen until 3 am or so, I remembered. Just be patient and play CoD4 or WoW in the meantime.
And once it turns out to be no more than a map rotation, please continue to play CoD4 and WoW :/

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

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Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

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Originally Posted by therangereminem View Post

By slientshadow

i blocked out the frist part of the gm's email becuz of the plain facts of you people spamming them and its not my email to give out
and blacked out a couple other things for other reasons
Seems really really fake :/. Hoping your right though.

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1 View Post
Seems really really fake :/. Hoping your right though.
how does it seem fake i edited it with paint shop to blur out and cut out other things i have talked about with the gm some of it being personal