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Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

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07 Aug 2009 at 06:39 - 1

Out of GW Utopia http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Utopia
or Eotn

in my opinion they shouldnt of canceled Utopia an went on to eotn ...

utopia would of had new proff
the wiki page says new races(Sidhe)
new professions
most likely less title grind
a new setting(Aztec)
Chronomancer concept art looked wicked
would of had heros most likely

eotn isnt very fun imo
you have to do books or grind to get the armor(easy but annoying)
an expansion and not a complete game
dungeons are fun

read this and though about it

Quote:

But, in fact, the restrictions of the every-six-months model meant the team found itself perpetually wistful over what didn't make it into the game.

“We sat down to discuss what was going to go into Campaign 4 and realised we couldn't do all the things we wanted,” says Game Designer Eric Flannum. “Why? Partly because we'd need more time [than six months], and partly because some ideas wouldn't work well with things we'd done before.”

or maby utopia just went to becoming gw2?

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

07 Aug 2009 at 06:57 - 2

GW2 probably. If you think about it, in the long term it would have been better to build into something else. As the devs said, they just wanted to put more and more stuff in and eventually what they had wouldn't have worked as a 4th campaign. Hence, EotN was made to bridge the gap from GW1 to GW2.

PS: More professions and more skills isn't a good thing.

EDIT: I do like Aztecs though, that is a downside.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

07 Aug 2009 at 07:04 - 3

I would've much rather they put time into balancing, fixing, and qualitizing both PvE and PvP. Personally I would've probably gotten a lot more longevity out of a properly done existing PvE game world than a slightly expanded shallow one.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

07 Aug 2009 at 07:45 - 4

A lot of what was to be Utopia wound up in eton....though in a very very unfinished way.

I would have loved to have seen what they could have done with it instead of the cheap, hurried, slapped together thing they called eye of the north.

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

07 Aug 2009 at 08:01 - 5

I would much rather HAVE had Utopia finished and then had them move to GW2. The waiting difference would have been minimal and we would have had a brand new campaign to keep us occupied.

dtru89

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

umbrella corporationX

A/

07 Aug 2009 at 08:03 - 6

Eotn dungeons are awesome. The Hall of Monuments was a good idea too. rest of eotn sucks though. don't like the sandbox questing. imo there are already too many skills and profs in gw as it is. Glad to hear gw2 is gonna have less.

mrs mindy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

Temple of Ages

My Girls A [LUSH]

Mo/E

07 Aug 2009 at 08:53 - 7

i had never heard about utopia until now, reading that i would have much rather have had that it sounded very fun, eotn was epic fail I expected better and it was rushed "because they wanted to put more effort into GW2" I don't see gw2 yet and I wonder if it will have the same effort as something like eotn.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

07 Aug 2009 at 09:24 - 8

Its Human nature to want something that looked attractive when proposed but was later abandoned,imo it would have failed in the long run.
If utopia would have made gw2 appear faster then yes I would have liked Utopia.
If it caused GW to collapse and all future incarnations to be abandoned then no.

The concept of adding 2 professions and extra skills with each expansion would cause even more horrendous problems than we have now.

For me GW was a game system that was almost perfect and loads of fun to play.
Now we can look forward to GW2 with many of the problems anet and the players have discovered ironed out.

citizensmith1001

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Behind You

[RoaR]

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07 Aug 2009 at 10:09 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

PS: More professions and more skills isn't a good thing.

EDIT: I do like Aztecs though, that is a downside.

I agree with Marty on both these points, 2 new classes would have made the game even more impossible to balance than it is now.
And the idea of a Aztec themed campaign with ruined cities and temples and stuff is pretty cool sounding. Personally i think they have probably put alot of the ideas from Utopia into GW2 , and i hope Chronomancer is a playable class in GW2 , it looks like a pretty awesome profession and A-Net have already said that GW2 will feature new playable classes so hopefully thats where the idea has ended up*crosses fingers*.

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

07 Aug 2009 at 10:30 - 10

How about if Utopia was the same kind of crap as GWEN, just more of it?!

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

07 Aug 2009 at 11:23 - 11

New classes and skills would have been more balance trouble than we already have now. I will gladly give up the Chronomancer and any other fun and new things in order to keep the game more balanced, or at least a little easier to balance.

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

07 Aug 2009 at 11:29 - 12

I was growing kinda tired of stomping through any new content on my fully fledged Ranger and Necromancer anyway. Time for something new.

SeraCombi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Hiding in a cave in old Ascalon

08 Aug 2009 at 14:27 - 13

It's my understanding that the bulk of Utopia's ideas went into GWEN. We see it in the Asuran areas.

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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08 Aug 2009 at 14:33 - 14

Since I've seen nothing of GW2, because there's nothing to see and EOTN was a crapshoot.

I would have taken Utopia over EOTN/GW2 anyday.

If anyone says they would have rather had EOTN/GW2 over Utopia, not because EOTN was good (was horrible in my opinion) but because they think GW2 will "rox their sox" then they are a fanboi, because there is not sufficient info to show that GW2 will be in any way unique, thrilling, or an enjoyable gaming experience.

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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08 Aug 2009 at 14:35 - 15

Aztec-inspired stuff would definitely have been cool, though that was ported into EotN with the Asuran areas.

Don't care much about extra professions or skills. And to be honest, adding another playable race at that point would have been a bit silly. I prefer how in GW everyone's just a normal human anyway - makes it feel just that bit more immersive, and I like the different cultures available that characters can be from.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

08 Aug 2009 at 15:01 - 16

not eotn and those stupid azuran gremlins

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

08 Aug 2009 at 15:38 - 17

More professions would have been a horrible idea. We (arguably) have too many already. Dungeons were indeed fun.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

08 Aug 2009 at 16:00 - 18

I'd rather have GWEN. Utopia just sounded like the Asura lands all over again, with maybe the land of time or whatever as the only original place. I'd rather have some different types of environments (unlike NF's desert, desert, and more desert, poisoned sulfur desert and nightmare desert)

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

08 Aug 2009 at 16:54 - 19

If it was possible, then I'd have Utopia -> Eotn -> GW2. Then we'd have a bit more to keep us occupied. Although new prof + more skills = harder balancing. But, if I had to choose, Utopia.

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

08 Aug 2009 at 17:18 - 20

I would have Utopia -> Eotn -> GW2

As for the new classes sure why not, though it would be hard to balance because of all the skills, but it still could be done, but oh well, can't dream about what could have been done, just gotta wait forever for Gw2....anywho

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

08 Aug 2009 at 17:27 - 21

I would rather they incorporate Utopia into GW2! I really liked the idea of Aztec setting and huge beetles! The game I played before GW had those two things and I really loved it.

The Chronomancer, I don't know about that class though... looks harder than Mesmer and I have a knack for trying out less user friendly classes lol. I don't want to get caught up in another one!

EOTN I just plain hate. For one I didn't really have much motivation to start it, and I'm not even done it yet, but I already hate it so far. More grind, more titles, more pve skills, more empty outposts since h/h continue to dominate PvE. At least Gwen's lines are pretty funny. Really liked Against The Char and Grothmar Wardown landscape... but the running around involved is nuts and those 2 things don't make up for everything.

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

08 Aug 2009 at 17:30 - 22

EoTN is fine.

In the long run, we'd run out of things to do in Utopia and we'd still have to wait for Gw2 with a later release because they finished Utopia.

Plus, more class/skills = hard to balance.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

08 Aug 2009 at 17:35 - 23

I think they made the right choice in going for GW2. The only problem is the time it takes to make it leaves a very slow painful death for GW1. Plus the unfinished content in GW1 is a shame, no realms of the other gods in ToA, adding those 3 one by one as major updates would certainly extend life.

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

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08 Aug 2009 at 18:30 - 24

i wouldn't want either...

the only good thing that came out of eotn was the pretty graphics... which is pointless for the most part because the armours were just rehashed old armours and look like crap.

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

08 Aug 2009 at 22:11 - 25

I like all the campaigns for different reasons. Every campaign has something unique and Im sure Utopia would have as much as EOTN has. I always thought a new campiagn every 6 months was optimistic. I think we could have had so much more in the way of content, new ideas and overall polish if the devs had more time between each one.

I would love a new campiagn for the old girl but I hope all the time leads to a nicely polished round 2 for the game.

So I will take EOTN because it actually exists. Then GW2 because it will get here. And utopia doesn't even get my consideration since it's only an idea and never gonna live.

KingCrab

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

W/E

08 Aug 2009 at 22:18 - 26

Definitely EotN. There are enough professions out there already, no need to cause things to blur together even more. Plus the dungeons are a lot of fun!

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

08 Aug 2009 at 22:46 - 27

I'd take eotn since it is a fine expansion.

If you want to play GW:Utopia, just go to the asuran lands.

Tomm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/R

08 Aug 2009 at 23:38 - 28

I like EotN as it is, and wouldn't change it.

But a new campaign would be nice, since GW2 will come in few years too long.

The Scorpion Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

09 Aug 2009 at 00:21 - 29

Would have gone with Utopia myself, hopefully it's gw2 now.

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

09 Aug 2009 at 01:09 - 30

Utopia because, frankly, the concepts are just astoundingly neat. I like EotN, but the cities, the styles they show in the Utopia concept art just look so vibrant. A bustling Aztec/Mayan metropolis, the costumes and styles, it just looked so much more fleshed out and developed than EotN ever could have been. I was really looking forward to wandering through the Tyrian Andes and especially huge Aztec-styled cities. Rata Sum is, at best, a disappointment when it comes to that idea.

I think my main gripe on the topic is that EotN was a bridge. It wasn't a grand, epic send off that GW1 and our characters deserved for an ending. It was a short bridge to no where. If they wanted to move off into GW2 after Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall, then they should have developed a huge campaign on par with Prophecies that was an epic ending to an epic series of games. It seems like if they were able to develop and release Nightfall so soon after Factions, then they could have done the same with Utopia, considering the time they had between the release of Nightfall and EotN.

I greatly hope that Utopia makes it into GW2 though, it just looked like a lot of fun, and it was also very unique.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

09 Aug 2009 at 04:27 - 31

Eye of the North was the right choice. New professions would have further broken an already broken game.

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

09 Aug 2009 at 06:18 - 32

EoTN was fine, but I'd rather a slew of info on GW2 come out over time.

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

09 Aug 2009 at 09:41 - 33

Utopia plz.

12 charz

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

09 Aug 2009 at 13:43 - 34

A full campaign of skills and classes would have made things really quite complicated, though I am sure that we would have managed somehow.

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

09 Aug 2009 at 18:39 - 35

If Utopia didn't have asurans it would have been interesting.
I understand why they jsut moved to GW2 though.

The Little Viking

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

innergalactic gargleblasters

W/Mo

10 Aug 2009 at 03:58 - 36

I would have liked to see Utopia finished. New races or not. Im not a fan of EOTN. I like the scenery, and the storyline is...ok i guess. I'm not a fan of the dungeons. They were ok the first 4 or 5 times through, but they got old real fast. And I don't like how a lot of the dungeon areas are repeats of other dungeons. I don't like not even being able to get armor unless your lvl 5 in a particular title. that's crap. I still play in Prophesies and Factions, but that's about it. Im really running out of things to do fast. All the titles I wanted maxed are maxed, and I have seen all there is to see. I think everyone would agree when I say we are in desperate need of some new content. In my opinion, Utopia could have been finished (in a fashion) as another expansion (leave out the new races and new skills and no more titles to go with it) and just given us new areas to explore (to hold the majority while we wait for GW2) but released a year or so AFTER EOTN. At least that way we wouldn't be as board with the game as we are now.

Arachnephobia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Tyria

FaR

E/

10 Aug 2009 at 10:35 - 37

Eotn, because it's nice and short. Offers a whole lot like Dungeons, books, more titles, easier skill capping, PvE skills, more heroes, elite armor and the Hall of Monuments.

I love Eotn, and I would've loved to have Utopia to play with when I'm not in the mood for the other campaigns, but at the same time I'd rather have GW2 over Utopia.

I'm really hoping that GW2 will not become another Utopia and end up as a canceled probject. People are looking foreward to it, and quitting the current game for GW2. While we wait for the next game to hit the shelves, they really need to replenish the current GW game, so players will have a bit more to do whilst they wait for the supposed second game. Hell, even a bit of leaked info' would be awesome.

Skaarj

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/

10 Aug 2009 at 18:51 - 38

Eye of the North, because it is the lesser of the two evils. A week's worth a PvE content does not necessarily make a great expansion, but I prefer that over all the trouble new professions would drag in.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

10 Aug 2009 at 19:34 - 39

Suppose a new campaign without introducing new professions.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

10 Aug 2009 at 20:28 - 40

...or what if the Chronomancer was PvE only?