Will there be another august update?

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Any word on whether
or not there will be another update with new content this month? (skill balance is not new content).

Sarevok Thordin

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I don't think we'll get new content for a while, since most of the team are working on GW2.

slowerpoke

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Cuba

Who knows for sure. If ANet know (and they should, if no one else) then they aren't telling us.

They said back in January, larger 'content updates' would appear every 3-4months, separate from the regular monthly maintenance build. I guess we'll see by the end of August if thats true.

Sometimes it would be nice if a CR could confirm ahead of time something like this, but again as we've seen, that's not how they roll.

Companies do announce announcements. "At this event we're gonna reveal something big!". That builds up excitement and anticipation, but that's not how they roll

Apparently silence is the new fun.

"Treat em mean, leave em bored...then they leave."

FoxBat

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Mo/Me

I sincerely doubt anything is coming this month. We'll probably get some news/hype when they have an actual timeline, which would be at least a month before.

tuna-fish_sushi

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Should be a new update that adds something because they did say they would add something major every "quarter" and the last one was like 4 months ago...

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Should be a new update that adds something because they did say they would add something major every "quarter" and the last one was like 4 months ago...
A.Net says a lot of stuff that they find out they just can't do. There is a lot they would like to do to this game and get done by certain deadlines. It is actually very rare that they have been able to deliver things on time or at all though. This really shouldn't be a surprise to people if there is no content update every 3 or 4 months. It isn't the first time a.net has failed to live up to their word and it won't be the last. Take everything they say with a grain of salt.

[DE]

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

There's a chance of a small update that might fix anything the previous August update broke. Other than that I wouldn't expect anything major unless XTH gets fixed anytime soon.

Konig Des Todes

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This month should hold the "PvP loving" update from the live team.

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

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theyre 'supposed' to, but the current update addressed some major issues (mel shot, MB eles in gvg).

unless its something like a longterm fix to lifestealing, i honestly dont know what more they are supposed to be fixing.

x sithis x

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didnt they say the were takin heros outta gvg & ha?
& puttin in new henchies

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...-_19_June_2009

i thought i read somewhere that was commin in august

Black Metal

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another thread that CR could simply answer themselves.........wonder why they don't like updating us on things.......

so......how's that XTH coming along?

Nomme Moon

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Join Date: May 2007

Just make sure you don't ask on a wednesday. They're busy that day.

Marty Silverblade

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Tbh I'm expecting only 1 more big update this year, probably 1-2 months from now. ANet won't give us massive content updates every 3-4 months, so don't get excited about them until ANet confirms they'll have one on the month they announce it.

QueenofDeath

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke View Post
Who knows for sure. If ANet know (and they should, if no one else) then they aren't telling us.

They said back in January, larger 'content updates' would appear every 3-4months, separate from the regular monthly maintenance build. I guess we'll see by the end of August if thats true.

Sometimes it would be nice if a CR could confirm ahead of time something like this, but again as we've seen, that's not how they roll.

Companies do announce announcements. "At this event we're gonna reveal something big!". That builds up excitement and anticipation, but that's not how they roll

Apparently silence is the new fun.

"Treat em mean, leave em bored...then they leave."
Dude don't you know by now Anet LIES and has been lying since origional release. Gaile lied Regina Lies Martin lies they all lie to apease the mob. They said new chapters every 6 months well that was a lie now wasn't it? New skill updates every month well that was another lie now wasn't it? New content update every four months well that was another lie wasn't it?

The working around words of that Gwen content that if you didn't buy it when it was a special you wouldn't get it. Those weren't the exact words but 99% of the people here will tell you that's what they thought it meant. A play on words is just as bad as a lie to me. They marketed it as FREE if you preordered GWEN from THEM and then everyone else has to pay $10 lol. Then these storage upgrades for $10 each lmao. Didn't they say they would never put CORE content in the Store for sale? Huh? Didn't they? yes they did. Last I recall storage is CORE content.

Spiritweaver

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Didn't they say they would never put CORE content in the Store for sale? Huh? Didn't they? yes they did. Last I recall storage is CORE content.
Extra (keyword being "extra" here) storage isn't core content.

Aljasha

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Join Date: May 2009

we had our monthly update some days ago. don't expect anything from anet until next month.

Symeon

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Join Date: Jul 2005

The quarterly update is still to come, and a good sign that it will soon be released is when a monthly update is delayed. Probably next month or October.

Nodakim

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Hrvatska

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Are we sure the quaterly updates wasnt the one at August 6th,that update was big by Anet definition.(and weekly on any other mmo)

BrettM

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Dude don't you know by now Anet LIES and has been lying since origional release.
Stating your intentions and then being unable to carry them out is not lying.

ANet delivered new chapters on a regular schedule until they changed their plans and decided to develop GW2. They never promised new chapters every six months for eternity! Where is the lie?

Skill updates have, by and large, been done on a monthly basis. How many times in the last few years has a month gone by without a skill update? Not many. Again, where is the lie?

They said they wanted to start producing larger content updates every 3-4 months. It appears that this idea was a little over-ambitious for the resources available to the Live Team, but these are not the first developers to miss a deadline. Where is HL2:Ep3? Where is Sam & Max season 3? Missing a development goal is a common thing, and it doesn't mean the developers are liars.

Unless you have some proof that Gaile, Regina, or Martin KNEW FOR A FACT that their statements would prove incorrect, then you are way out of line for calling them liars.

MastrSplintr18

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Originally Posted by x sithis x View Post
didnt they say the were takin heros outta gvg & ha?
& puttin in new henchies

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...-_19_June_2009

i thought i read somewhere that was commin in august
I would imagine that if they are doing a big PvP update that includes new henchmen and taking out heroes, there's probably a lot of AI and balancing issues with henchmen to be effective (yet not overpowered) in those PvP formats. That could be what is taking time.

I'm really not expecting anything PvE related. Though if I were, I wouldn't mind the following:

1. Elite Areas for the other Gods (Dwayna, Lyssa, Melandru, Kormir): I know DoA seems like the Kormir realm, but I put that on the same level as Sorrow's/Urgoz/Deep/Slavers which are campaign specific. The God Realms to me are beyond the campaigns.
2. Elite Area Staging Grounds: I think each God's area should have a core staging ground that you can go to. If you only have Prophecies, and your friend only has Nightfall (I don't know how you became friends, but go with it), then you could go through the ToA and he could go through the CoS to get to the UW or FoW staging area and you could play together. Maybe even just make a new shrine room at the GToB as a core location so that everyone can get to the God Realms together.
3. New heroes: We still need another Mesmer, Assassin, Ritualist, and Paragon so that (at least in PvE) there are three of each profession. We also need a PvP-exclusive Derv to make up for MOX being PvE only. I say put them in the two campaigns with the least amount of heroes: Prophecies and Factions (help breathe new life into them as well as give characters more options if they just go to NF to get the basic heroes and go back). Based on what I've seen on forums, some popular choices include...
Kurzick Mesmer (Factions)
Margonite Paragon (Prophecies -- Can be found in the Crystal Desert, quest given by a Forgotten)
Grawl Ritualist (Prophecies)
Tengu Assassin (Factions)
Zaishen Priest Dervish (Core, unlocked only through Balth Faction)

4. The ability to trade in skill points for something. I wouldn't mind if it was makeover credits, zkeys, money, reputation points, whatever, something that wouldn't break the economy.
5. Support for other high-end weapons in the Hall of Monuments (Gold Deldrimor Weapons, BMP weapons, etc.)

snaek

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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skill balance updates (i.e. what we received on august 6th) are not the same as content updates.


i do not trust the original dev update statement anymore, specifically 2 things:

Quote:
We want players to feel connected to what we are developing even though it may be months away from release, so during development we will be more open about our process and what we are working on.
i don't know about the rest of you guys, but i am waiting without any information and unclear whether or not there even is going to be an update. its clear to see they are not following through with this.

Quote:
Content updates will be done separately from the monthly maintenance and occur every three to four months.
if we don't receive the content update in august, then obviously they are not following through with this either.

Konker2020

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Join Date: Jan 2009

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Originally Posted by MastrSplintr18 View Post
I would imagine that if they are doing a big PvP update that includes new henchmen and taking out heroes, there's probably a lot of AI and balancing issues with henchmen to be effective (yet not overpowered) in those PvP formats. That could be what is taking time.

I'm really not expecting anything PvE related. Though if I were, I wouldn't mind the following:

1. Elite Areas for the other Gods (Dwayna, Lyssa, Melandru, Kormir): I know DoA seems like the Kormir realm, but I put that on the same level as Sorrow's/Urgoz/Deep/Slavers which are campaign specific. The God Realms to me are beyond the campaigns.
2. Elite Area Staging Grounds: I think each God's area should have a core staging ground that you can go to. If you only have Prophecies, and your friend only has Nightfall (I don't know how you became friends, but go with it), then you could go through the ToA and he could go through the CoS to get to the UW or FoW staging area and you could play together. Maybe even just make a new shrine room at the GToB as a core location so that everyone can get to the God Realms together.
3. New heroes: We still need another Mesmer, Assassin, Ritualist, and Paragon so that (at least in PvE) there are three of each profession. We also need a PvP-exclusive Derv to make up for MOX being PvE only. I say put them in the two campaigns with the least amount of heroes: Prophecies and Factions (help breathe new life into them as well as give characters more options if they just go to NF to get the basic heroes and go back). Based on what I've seen on forums, some popular choices include...
Kurzick Mesmer (Factions)
Margonite Paragon (Prophecies -- Can be found in the Crystal Desert, quest given by a Forgotten)
Grawl Ritualist (Prophecies)
Tengu Assassin (Factions)
Zaishen Priest Dervish (Core, unlocked only through Balth Faction)

4. The ability to trade in skill points for something. I wouldn't mind if it was makeover credits, zkeys, money, reputation points, whatever, something that wouldn't break the economy.
5. Support for other high-end weapons in the Hall of Monuments (Gold Deldrimor Weapons, BMP weapons, etc.)
Despite how much I would never expect any of this, I think everyone of those is a good idea, I especially like the hero ideas that you have there. But it'll never happen.

Konig Des Todes

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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Originally Posted by MastrSplintr18 View Post
I would imagine that if they are doing a big PvP update that includes new henchmen and taking out heroes, there's probably a lot of AI and balancing issues with henchmen to be effective (yet not overpowered) in those PvP formats. That could be what is taking time.
I recall Linsey saying she wanted to change Heroes Battles for the content update (and maybe do something about a PvP Polymock).

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Originally Posted by MastrSplintr18 View Post
I'm really not expecting anything PvE related. Though if I were, I wouldn't mind the following:

1. Elite Areas for the other Gods (Dwayna, Lyssa, Melandru, Kormir): I know DoA seems like the Kormir realm, but I put that on the same level as Sorrow's/Urgoz/Deep/Slavers which are campaign specific. The God Realms to me are beyond the campaigns.
Won't happen, as Linsey has said, and I know I keep re-quoting her: The Live Team doesn't have the needed amount of people in order to make brand new areas. Now, I'm sure if you want more dungeons, they could slap together some of the EN dungeon maps. But to be honest, who wants that?

*Also, technically, all of the Realm of Torment becomes Kormir's realm*


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Originally Posted by MastrSplintr18 View Post
2. Elite Area Staging Grounds: I think each God's area should have a core staging ground that you can go to. If you only have Prophecies, and your friend only has Nightfall (I don't know how you became friends, but go with it), then you could go through the ToA and he could go through the CoS to get to the UW or FoW staging area and you could play together. Maybe even just make a new shrine room at the GToB as a core location so that everyone can get to the God Realms together.
This may be possible, putting a temple town in the Battle Isles. Though for the Underworld, this may be a bit... contradicting (why would a group of people devout solely to Balthazar have a temple for all five/six gods?).

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Originally Posted by MastrSplintr18 View Post
3. New heroes: We still need another Mesmer, Assassin, Ritualist, and Paragon so that (at least in PvE) there are three of each profession. We also need a PvP-exclusive Derv to make up for MOX being PvE only. I say put them in the two campaigns with the least amount of heroes: Prophecies and Factions (help breathe new life into them as well as give characters more options if they just go to NF to get the basic heroes and go back). Based on what I've seen on forums, some popular choices include...
Kurzick Mesmer (Factions)
Margonite Paragon (Prophecies -- Can be found in the Crystal Desert, quest given by a Forgotten)
Grawl Ritualist (Prophecies)
Tengu Assassin (Factions)
Zaishen Priest Dervish (Core, unlocked only through Balth Faction)
Though I highly disagree with your listings, except for the Paragon, this is possible as well. I'd love to see 4 new heroes. Though I'd say it would make more sense if the Paragon was gained in the Realm of Torment *cough make The Lost a hero cough*. My own list would be:
Tengu Assassin
Margonite Paragon
Dredge or Frogman Ritualist
Forgotten Mesmer

Question though, why a fourth Dervish? (Unless it is PvP only, which would then should be part of this coming update. )

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4. The ability to trade in skill points for something. I wouldn't mind if it was makeover credits, zkeys, money, reputation points, whatever, something that wouldn't break the economy.
5. Support for other high-end weapons in the Hall of Monuments (Gold Deldrimor Weapons, BMP weapons, etc.)
Not sure on BMP in HoM, but I'd love these changes as well.

Aljasha

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Join Date: May 2009

maybe they ran out of ideas once the work on the purchasable "content" packs was concluded.

i agree with @snaek on the issue of transparency and hope the rework of gvg/ha henchmen and introduction of the test krewe are not the only "updates" in the pvp-lovin' content update.

daraaksii

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Originally Posted by snaek View Post
skill balance updates (i.e. what we received on august 6th) are not the same as content updates.


i do not trust the original dev update statement anymore, specifically 2 things:

Quote:
We want players to feel connected to what we are developing even though it may be months away from release, so during development we will be more open about our process and what we are working on.
i don't know about the rest of you guys, but i am waiting without any information and unclear whether or not there even is going to be an update. its clear to see they are not following through with this.


if we don't receive the content update in august, then obviously they are not following through with this either.
That means they are not even close to releasing a new content update.

Gigashadow

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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My personal suspicion is that they are holding out on everything until PAX (3 weeks away now), at which point they will unveil the Krewe signups, plus whatever they've been doing for GW1 since the last update if it's big. Who knows, maybe the Krewe thing will actually turn out to be signups for GW2 beta instead.

Nodakim

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Hrvatska

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Or PAX will only be Anet introducing the Krew thing and will bring nothing about GW2?

Toxic OnyX

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Join Date: Mar 2009

Atreia

LMAO @ ppl waiting for information from A-net

GL with that, their communication policy is even worse that their skill balance and update policy which is piss poor and nonsensical to say the least.

GW is dead get used to little or nothing happening.

Nodakim

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Hrvatska

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GW is not dead,but it is pathetic when you compare to what it was used to be.

malevolence

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gw isn't dead lol . Anyway , about the update , I think another one is coming , but why asking all the time for updates, doesn't make sense to me, we paid for what we got , and we still getting updates from ANET.

daraaksii

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Or PAX will only be Anet introducing the Krew thing and will bring nothing about GW2?
Regina already said there will be NO GW2 at PAX.

MastrSplintr18

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Question though, why a fourth Dervish? (Unless it is PvP only, which would then should be part of this coming update. )
Yeah the idea was for PvP only, just to even things out.

Snow Bunny

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QueenofDeath

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Stating your intentions and then being unable to carry them out is not lying.
Well it's lying to me bud and where I come from if you can't keep your word then you are a LIAR! I bought the game under the influence that I was going to get a new chapter to play EVERY SIX MONTHS that is how they ADVERTISED it. Thus they LIED plain and simple.

lilDeath

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I cannot help but feeling that something is coming. And it may potentially be very exciting and / or even very good(!!).

Anet peeps, Izzy, Linsey, Regina (who is busy with PAX organisations), and others are all way to quiet on their respective wiki's when I checked last week, so it reminds me of the quiet before the storm.
Something's brewing, they are severely under-resourced, which have been confirmed a few times by Regina and Linsey being her own iTeam (who said there's no I in team?).
The first things to go in resource-strained circumstances is communication and updating the base.
It's a fact, it is simply not top of mind when deadlines are looming.

I am keeping my eyes open and my ears to the ground for the next few weeks to a month.

Arduin

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Well it's lying to me bud and where I come from if you can't keep your word then you are a LIAR! I bought the game under the influence that I was going to get a new chapter to play EVERY SIX MONTHS that is how they ADVERTISED it. Thus they LIED plain and simple.
You promise your friend to mow their lawn tomorrow, but decided to break your leg after you fell of your bike. Now you can't mow their lawn anymore tomorrow. Now you're lying too?

Anet clearly stated why they abandoned the campaign each 6 months. Anyways, it's not like Anet would care if someone would accuse them of lying.

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I cannot help but feeling that something is coming.
And it may potentially be very exciting and / or even very good(!!).
One can hope

snaek

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why do i keep hearing about this "1-man...errr woman...team"? correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't the live team originally have 2 people--lindsey and joe? and then after the profit made from the april content update, they said they were hiring or already hired a new developer for the live team? so what happened?

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Does a new description for power block count as new content??

Aljasha

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@snaek
is there a proof anet made profit from the april content update?

Aljasha

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sry fo the double post. i just read through ncsofts latest earnings report and want to confirm: anet/ncsoft made some profit after releasing the last major content update. on page eight, it says gw generated a revenue of 17,000 mn krw, which are ~13,6 mn us-dollar. in the first quarter, it were 15,000 nm krw (around 12 mn us-dollar).