I hope this is the correct forum for this...
I have noticed within the last few months, a few disturbing things...They seem to be Harbingers of Deterioration. I really hope not.
1. Alliances are dissolving at a rapid rate
2. For every guild that dissolves, it seems that 3 new guilds are forming
3. While the number of existing guilds seems to be increasing, the available player base is decreasing (despite Z-missions & Z-quests)
4. We have lost a great fansite, Crossing Tyria.
Am I the only one noticing?
Can we hold on until GW2?
Do we really want to?
When GW2 lands, will you desert GW1 for it, go to another game entirely or stay?
The State of the Game...
Sookie
Apollo Smile
It honestly doesn't matter if a ton of people leave before Guild Wars 2. They will be back once it launches anyways.
Sookie
Why do you say that, Apollo?
Crimzon_DST
I have been playing about 3 1/2 years and still Love GW1. I plan to play it even when GW2 launches as well as GW2 itself. When or if they shutdown GW1..which i pray they never do...I then hope there is some way we will be able to download our account content and chars to play in single player so to speak.
Cacheelma
You noticed all this just now?
I lol'ed.
I lol'ed.
Joandir
I'm not so worried about it...GW already had an enviable longevity and with the infos about GW2 lot of players are coming back. About the possible stagnation of gameplay..well is normal i think: with most of developers concentrated in GW2 project.
I never stopped to play and I will play GW1 until servers are off;
I never stopped to play and I will play GW1 until servers are off;
some guy
Dead.....
Dead.......
I hear echos
Dead.......
I hear echos
Benderama
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when GW2 comes i might check onto here to see what happens to spamadan.
if they cut off the GW1 servers years from now i hope they put a notice uyp on GW1 site, GW2 site and logins so everyone can come and party
Etta
It's been like this for the past couple of years. Pretty normal consider how old GW is now. Nothing last forever, son.
stuntharley
I'm surprised guildwars lasted this long. A game based on grinding can only last so long.
Fate Crusher
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I'm surprised guildwars lasted this long. A game based on grinding can only last so long.
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Ballanced PvP that tested your skill was what GW was based on.
Titles and "grind" was added in later in its life to satisfy farmers and PvE minded people who needed to waste their time. Nightfall was the first time Anet started to care about PvE.
To the OP, it's unfortunate to see so many guilds dissolving, but i'm sure the members who have bonded well will play together in GW2. Our guild will be playing into Aion, GW2 and whatever they throw at us. Plus it doesn't really matter how the number of guilds or dissolving of alliances affest this game. We've lost players since EotN release and it''s understandable. What is more detrimental to the state of this game is its economy which has seen so many rare skins and even green items lose incredible amounts of value over time. and it pisses people off.
Arduin
Our Alliance recently 'dissolved'. At one point only 3 of the Guilds were active, so we ditched the inactive ones and the 3 of us joined another Alliance. Having loads of fun again playing with new people.
Z'HA'DUM
Always amusing to see people worried about a mere game... hows your family?
upier
Full hero parties.
Thank you very much!
Thank you very much!
4thVariety
No we know he thinks GW is dead, but what will that mean?
Is that part of some weird 12-stepping program for MMOs?
1. We admitted we were powerless over GW—that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore balance to the gameplay.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of Linsey as we understood Her.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to forums, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our belief in the death of GW.
6. Were entirely ready to have a content update remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Her to remove hero limitations.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and then watched My Name is Earl instead while farming faction.
9. Showed 'My Name is Earl' to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and made a few other posts about GW being dead.
11. Sought through prayer, meditation and the Wiki to improve our conscious contact with Linsey as we understood Her, reading C# for dummies hoping for the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to all fan forums, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
Is that part of some weird 12-stepping program for MMOs?
1. We admitted we were powerless over GW—that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore balance to the gameplay.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of Linsey as we understood Her.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to forums, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our belief in the death of GW.
6. Were entirely ready to have a content update remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Her to remove hero limitations.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and then watched My Name is Earl instead while farming faction.
9. Showed 'My Name is Earl' to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and made a few other posts about GW being dead.
11. Sought through prayer, meditation and the Wiki to improve our conscious contact with Linsey as we understood Her, reading C# for dummies hoping for the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to all fan forums, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
Zigity
The way the game is designed, you don't lose interest if you truly don't want to. The senses of completeness and boredom are self-defined. I admit that I have abandoned the game before, but only to realize that I didn't really have to stop playing because I was "done", and I also found myself always having GW on while playing other games.
In response to "GW=grindwars": With most traditional MMO's, I find myself just grinding quests merely for levels to get to the max level: go into hub, get all quests without really reading them, go to markers on my map, kill stuff, come back, turn in quest, go to next hub and repeat. Once I get max level, I repeat the same "end game" content, which composes of 5-10% of the entire game content. Doing a low-level quest at max level has no real meaning to my main characters. Then by the time I "get bored", they release new "end-game" content that makes me forget of some of the last content I was repeating.
How I see guild wars, the whole game in its entirety is replayable after I beat a campaign, being rewarded at the same time for playing it (storybooks, HM, titles, etc). If I get bored doing one thing, I have the other 99% of the game's content at my disposal. And new things are tweaked/changed/added every couple of months to keep things fresh and different.
Also, most of the content is completable solo or with small groups. "Super-Duper-Impersonal-Metas-Guild-Of-People-Who-Rely-On-Other-People-To-Give-Them-A-Reason-To-Have-Fun" alliances can crumble for all I care... it doesnt really affect me. It's sad to know people are leaving, but I am still having fun, even when playing solo, but that is just me.
Plus, if they ever want to pick it up again, all they have to do is turn the client on. The game is easy to jump back into, without feeling like the population is "9 months ahead" of you.
Guild Wars has such versatility and accessibility, while costing a heck of a lot less month than traditional subscription RPGs, with practically 100% of the game replayable for your main characters, while still having support and development that keeps it comparable with the AAA level of online rpg titles.
In response to "GW=grindwars": With most traditional MMO's, I find myself just grinding quests merely for levels to get to the max level: go into hub, get all quests without really reading them, go to markers on my map, kill stuff, come back, turn in quest, go to next hub and repeat. Once I get max level, I repeat the same "end game" content, which composes of 5-10% of the entire game content. Doing a low-level quest at max level has no real meaning to my main characters. Then by the time I "get bored", they release new "end-game" content that makes me forget of some of the last content I was repeating.
How I see guild wars, the whole game in its entirety is replayable after I beat a campaign, being rewarded at the same time for playing it (storybooks, HM, titles, etc). If I get bored doing one thing, I have the other 99% of the game's content at my disposal. And new things are tweaked/changed/added every couple of months to keep things fresh and different.
Also, most of the content is completable solo or with small groups. "Super-Duper-Impersonal-Metas-Guild-Of-People-Who-Rely-On-Other-People-To-Give-Them-A-Reason-To-Have-Fun" alliances can crumble for all I care... it doesnt really affect me. It's sad to know people are leaving, but I am still having fun, even when playing solo, but that is just me.
Plus, if they ever want to pick it up again, all they have to do is turn the client on. The game is easy to jump back into, without feeling like the population is "9 months ahead" of you.
Guild Wars has such versatility and accessibility, while costing a heck of a lot less month than traditional subscription RPGs, with practically 100% of the game replayable for your main characters, while still having support and development that keeps it comparable with the AAA level of online rpg titles.
Sookie
I'm with you Zigity. I always find things to do, but not so for the majority of people in the game.
I'm just commenting on the State of the Game and how that state is changing others. I think some of the commenters should have re-read my post before posting. I am not bored with GW, only finding a sense of boredom in others.
I asked certain questions of others wanting opinions, not assumptions that I was bored with it.
I for one can wait on GW2 and I am still not sure (even with the trailer/artwork released) that I want to leave GW1 (Fantasy MMO) for GW2 (science fiction/fantasy MMO?).
Z'HA'DUM, the family is fine...how's yours?
I'm just commenting on the State of the Game and how that state is changing others. I think some of the commenters should have re-read my post before posting. I am not bored with GW, only finding a sense of boredom in others.
I asked certain questions of others wanting opinions, not assumptions that I was bored with it.
I for one can wait on GW2 and I am still not sure (even with the trailer/artwork released) that I want to leave GW1 (Fantasy MMO) for GW2 (science fiction/fantasy MMO?).
Z'HA'DUM, the family is fine...how's yours?
Angel Killuminati
I hardly play it now and I know many more that are stopping, it will continue - it's natural.
The player base will continue to dwindle by old players, except perhaps attracting a few people who are new to the game and pick it up. Every game is like this and considering and how long it's been about it's not surprising. Roll on GW2 I say,
The player base will continue to dwindle by old players, except perhaps attracting a few people who are new to the game and pick it up. Every game is like this and considering and how long it's been about it's not surprising. Roll on GW2 I say,
Shadowspawn X
Guild wars is not deteriorating, people are just finishing the game. The game is still high quality, but most people can't run around like a hamster on a treadmill doing the same stuff over and over. The fan base will always be there waiting for new content and GW2. The play styles have deteriorated into a degenerate farmfest with SF being abused left and right. You also have people who can't make a build rolling though the game with sabway/discordway and a backpack full of consumables. But at this point I don't think it matters, the game will still be entertaining for newcomers and those who can stomach the same content year in and year out will get 10 GWAMM's, max out every obscure title in the game and farm Tyria till they are blue in the face. Not a bad state of affairs for a game that has been dead for two years. GW will be fine.
Zigity
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I'm with you Zigity. I always find things to do, but not so for the majority of people in the game.
I'm just commenting on the State of the Game and how that state is changing others. I think some of the commenters should have re-read my post before posting. I am not bored with GW, only finding a sense of boredom in others. I asked certain questions of others wanting opinions, not assumptions that I was bored with it. I for one can wait on GW2 and I am still not sure (even with the trailer/artwork released) that I want to leave GW1 (Fantasy MMO) for GW2 (science fiction/fantasy MMO?). Z'HA'DUM, the family is fine...how's yours? |
Am I the only one noticing? no.
Can we hold on until GW2? yes.
Do we really want to? only if you want to
When GW2 lands, will you desert GW1 for it, go to another game entirely or stay? depends... gotta wait, especially if they link more content like HoM.
=)
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by Enolena Sedai
I hope this is the correct forum for this...
I have noticed within the last few months, a few disturbing things...They seem to be Harbingers of Deterioration. I really hope not. 1. Alliances are dissolving at a rapid rate 2. For every guild that dissolves, it seems that 3 new guilds are forming 3. While the number of existing guilds seems to be increasing, the available player base is decreasing (despite Z-missions & Z-quests) |
Cuilan
Numbers 1-3 don't seem right. From my experience alliances have always been falling apart...a lot.
Obrien Xp
The game seems fine to me. Though there may be many older players that are leaving, a large portion are only leaving because they have done what they came to do. once gw2 is out, many will return.
There are many many many new players entering the game every day, just go to pre searing, or shing jea monastery, I end up helping 3 new people a day if not more through chat. (ofc my comp is busted and I can't play atm, this comp that im on atm can't run gw).
There are many many many new players entering the game every day, just go to pre searing, or shing jea monastery, I end up helping 3 new people a day if not more through chat. (ofc my comp is busted and I can't play atm, this comp that im on atm can't run gw).
Robbeh The Mad
On the other had I've noticed that smaller guilds seem to be dissolving while huge super guilds seem to be taking over, a few to mention are NiTe, Yarr, KISS, KING and a few others. Personally GW was only just one of the few games I play so even if it passes it's okay with me, it was fun and I really enjoyed the ride. Nothing can last forever. I honor GW in memory and respect it enough to let it die a respectable death. It really was a fun 3 years and I count GW along with all my other college memories. It was a huge part of that scene along with class, girls, pizza..ect. I rarely play GW now but I know I'll be back for GW2. Hell if they add new content to to GW1 I'll be back.
I just don't want to see GW become the Bret Farve of the gaming world.
I just don't want to see GW become the Bret Farve of the gaming world.
Divine Ashes
Personally, when GW2 comes out (or some other game to divert my attention long enough until GW2 comes out), I plan on leaving GW and never coming back.
Also, to reiterate points already made, the game is getting old. What was once a game based on balanced pvp and skill has been deteriorating due to power creep, too many skills, and too many professions. To counterbalance this, Anet has been trying to keep players interested with Zquests, Nicholas, and some other new content, but these are only minor distractions compared to what competitive pvp once was in this game.
Personally, I'm just holding out until Sealed Deck comes about, as right now there is really no point for me to play. I'm hoping SD will introduce a more skill-based arena, rather than build-based, and keep me interested in the little free time that I have, until GW2 finally comes out.
Also, to reiterate points already made, the game is getting old. What was once a game based on balanced pvp and skill has been deteriorating due to power creep, too many skills, and too many professions. To counterbalance this, Anet has been trying to keep players interested with Zquests, Nicholas, and some other new content, but these are only minor distractions compared to what competitive pvp once was in this game.
Personally, I'm just holding out until Sealed Deck comes about, as right now there is really no point for me to play. I'm hoping SD will introduce a more skill-based arena, rather than build-based, and keep me interested in the little free time that I have, until GW2 finally comes out.
wilebill
The state of the economy plays some role. In my guild activity has declined mostly because real life issues have drawn people away; with only two exceptions, not other games. Aion will probably have some impact, though.
notskorn
Welcome to 2007
Tijger
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Originally Posted by Enolena Sedai
I hope this is the correct forum for this...
Am I the only one noticing? Can we hold on until GW2? Do we really want to? When GW2 lands, will you desert GW1 for it, go to another game entirely or stay? |
2. I'm sure we can but this isnt WoW, Anet didnt design it to hold your attention permanently so you'd pay up every month. As far as I can tell though, there are still new players coming to the game, it is still selling and for a 4 year old game, that is actually quite impressive.
3. I dont know yet, GW still has life in it for us and if GW2 is really good then it might pull us away from GW1 permanently but until its out I wont make any predictions on that.
eyekwah2
I think I will be absent for a long while from GW once GW2 comes out, and it may even be permanent. I can't say right now. Knowing ANet, they'll find a way of encouraging guild wars players by providing HoM benefits in GW2, but also they'll find a way of doing the opposite, which is to say you can expect Anet to make it interesting all over again for GW players like offering new bonuses to be available in GW2 due to something which you must do in the HoM in GW.
T1Cybernetic
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Full hero parties.
Thank you very much! |
Guild wars is getting quiet even more so lately though, none of my friends play any more (Just load up for birthdays and special events)
Chocobo1
People who say Guild Wars blows should play some other MMO, and see how vastly superior it is. I got bored and downloaded Atlantica Online.... Auto Walk to monsters, left click everything, collect drops and bam. And even then, people could buy gear with RL money so they were vastly better than people who earned anything.
Guild Wars is still playable, it isn't dead.
Guild Wars is still playable, it isn't dead.
Sookie
/unhijacked 
No one, and I mean NO ONE said that the game is dead...this is not a "dead" thread. I encouraged dialog concerning the state of the game. It is aging and I found it to be something to discuss. *RIF
Questions were posed, in an effort to encourage discussion, not proclamations of doom.
No one, and I mean NO ONE said that the game is dead...this is not a "dead" thread. I encouraged dialog concerning the state of the game. It is aging and I found it to be something to discuss. *RIF
Questions were posed, in an effort to encourage discussion, not proclamations of doom.
Tijger
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/unhijacked
No one, and I mean NO ONE said that the game is dead...this is not a "dead" thread. I encouraged dialog concerning the state of the game. It is aging and I found it to be something to discuss. *RIF Questions were posed, in an effort to encourage discussion, not proclamations of doom. |
Scary
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Our Alliance recently 'dissolved'. At one point only 3 of the Guilds were active, so we ditched the inactive ones and the 3 of us joined another Alliance. Having loads of fun again playing with new people.
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yup I can only agree on that 
And besides that, I can't remember a other game that i play almost every day
over more than 4 years.
Anet, despite all comments. You are doin a overall good job.
andrew512
After seeing the GW2 trailer I logged back onto GW for the first time in almost two years. Well, thats not true because I have logged on in between them to try to get re-interested in the game...but nobody wanted to play with other people and I just felt lonely.
however, this time is different. I rolled a new character in factions. I am at harvest temple and I can PROUDLY say that i have PUGed EVERYTHING. There are TONS of people (compared to what it used to be past 2 years for me) and I'm actually having fun with this game playing with other people for the first time in a while.
Is the game detereorating?
Hell no!! its better than ever
however, this time is different. I rolled a new character in factions. I am at harvest temple and I can PROUDLY say that i have PUGed EVERYTHING. There are TONS of people (compared to what it used to be past 2 years for me) and I'm actually having fun with this game playing with other people for the first time in a while.
Is the game detereorating?
Hell no!! its better than ever
nanase ren
Guildwars has been dieing for a few years now the new content ist coming out like they said it would people getting bored and leaving.
I am one of these people i will get GW2 but GW1 is a fail game now done everything possible just bores me now.
Also the only ones staying around are mostly noobs which means trying to find a good group is near impossible foe people who know.
Aion i think is gonna be the tme filler for GW2
I am one of these people i will get GW2 but GW1 is a fail game now done everything possible just bores me now.
Also the only ones staying around are mostly noobs which means trying to find a good group is near impossible foe people who know.
Aion i think is gonna be the tme filler for GW2
jammerpa
Alliance and guild dissolved over 2 years ago. Been playing other games on and off. Got back into GW when the z q's and z m's came out. Too many repeaters and now i'm not playing again.
Got hooked on Aion a few months ago and hopefully it holds my interest til gw2 releases.
I'll be back to afk my gwamm title in the next 9 rings event.
In 4 1/2 years, I've gotten all I wanted to out of GW. I've accomplished everything that I set out to accomplish.
Got hooked on Aion a few months ago and hopefully it holds my interest til gw2 releases.
I'll be back to afk my gwamm title in the next 9 rings event.
In 4 1/2 years, I've gotten all I wanted to out of GW. I've accomplished everything that I set out to accomplish.
Paloma Song
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/unhijacked
No one, and I mean NO ONE said that the game is dead...this is not a "dead" thread. I encouraged dialog concerning the state of the game. It is aging and I found it to be something to discuss. *RIF Questions were posed, in an effort to encourage discussion, not proclamations of doom. |
You started out with a list of observations with which not everyone agrees, writing them in such a way as to imply the game was in trouble. Then you asked questions designed to evoke opinions as to whether or not the game was in trouble, again laced with implications that the game was in trouble. But now you're upset that some people are saying that yes, yes it is in trouble?
This IS a dead thread. It just has more words than most.
Sookie
No, hon...you are are wrong. I didn't mean for you to read my post and come to the conclusion that I don't want all opinions. the post that I took exception to was bashing the Game...and that was not what this post is about.
There is a post that has been deleted. The person was bashing GW saying some very childish things about the game. I don't know if moderators deleted it or if the person came back and did it.
When you start a post here, different opinions are to be expected, but that particular post was really off-topic. Maybe I should have been a bit clearer, and I probably should have quoted it in my "/unhijacked" reply. But I guess I can't be perfect.
There is a post that has been deleted. The person was bashing GW saying some very childish things about the game. I don't know if moderators deleted it or if the person came back and did it.
When you start a post here, different opinions are to be expected, but that particular post was really off-topic. Maybe I should have been a bit clearer, and I probably should have quoted it in my "/unhijacked" reply. But I guess I can't be perfect.
Scary
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Guildwars has been dieing for a few years now the new content ist coming out like they said it would people getting bored and leaving.
I am one of these people i will get GW2 but GW1 is a fail game now done everything possible just bores me now. Also the only ones staying around are mostly noobs which means trying to find a good group is near impossible foe people who know. Aion i think is gonna be the tme filler for GW2 |
Well, We if I have a look to my guild only.. there are many peeps who
play de game from the start. incl, My self.
And still we are on most days/evenings of the week. just talk, doin dungeons
help others.
So It might be the player it self that's getting bored. And sure, it isn't what
it used to be.. not possible to is it, if you consider that the game is goin to his 5th year.
We all know the ins and out, but what I dont understand is that people complain so much.
Tell me a other no monthly fee game what has done so much to enjoy there
players with special events, content, and other things.
Nop, I find GuildWars worth of every penny I spend on it.