I don't see the value in items
Urass
What else to do with your gold? When you keep running into the storage limit for gold, you got to do something with it.
Axeman002
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Exactly, Martin, I obviously meant rare skinned in the context of a perfect inherent version.
Also, Axeman, you're making some very trite points in the guise of some kind of cutting insight. If you're going to give the banter, at least back it up with some decently made points. Awful attempt at deflection there, too. I'd suggest you stop trying.  |
ok u finished editing your post now?? i've seen 2 answers from you.....i was showing an example of what is rare and why its rare..sorry i forgot to add those 100 pieces of smallprint that u seem so needing to see...oh dear i made a flaw let's QQ.
1 problem with guildwar's...its filled with self centered arse's...unfortunatly for Guru most use there site.
no doubt u will pick at something on here and twist/turn and QQ about it aswell.
wilderness
Actually, let's leave this. It's pointless, derailing, and we're just going to get a warning for bickering in public.
Feel free to PM me if you fancy carrying on though.
Feel free to PM me if you fancy carrying on though.
Chasing Squirrels
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Yesterday I was hawking for a Halves casting time 20% for an offhand I have and some dude came back with 40k real quickly over PM. lol 40k? Are you kidding me? Plus the cost of some of these items in the 100's of ectos?? Why pay that for some silly looking skin? You can buy a perfect anything from a weapon smith, slap a couple of mods on it and wallah you have a perfect weapon just the same as some 800 ecto item. I guess that is the status symbol of leetness in this game since it really has no power elements or anything of any significant value other than vanity. Someone got a super claw of leetness looks so they are better than you syndrome?? lol
Titles appear about the same there's only really a handful worth going after: Treasure hunter, Wisdom, Lucky I guess, Sunspear/Lightbringer, one of the two Faction ones Kurzick or Luxon and then the GWEN faction titles for Norn, Asura and Human? Only those that benefit actual skills used and improve treasure hunting skills and less breakage of keys are worth going after. I just don't see wasting time or money going after drunkard, survivor, sweet-tooth, tinkerbell in tights or any of those other senseless childish titles. If all titles gave some advantage within the game then I could see going after them. But, there are so few that do. |
wilderness
E-Peen only applies if a person is bragging superiority by owning a specific item/title/armour set/etc... which is quite obviously ridiculous and hardly needs comment.
If it's just people enjoying their own metagame by working toward a desired aesthetic, then why does it even bother you so much?
If it's just people enjoying their own metagame by working toward a desired aesthetic, then why does it even bother you so much?
Zahr Dalsk
Elemental swords seem to be down to 2k, which is nice. I bought one for my Ritualist since it goes really nicely with Ritualist Vabbian armour, and because they're finally low enough to be worth buying.
I'm glad you're not in charge of that. Or indeed, in charge of anything.
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They should sack the guy who invented dye combinations.
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~ Dan ~
OP = everybody should look the same with ordinary items. Different is bad.
I like nice skins. People pay money for nice things. Isn't that why people wear branded clothing irl that does the same thing as cheap plain clothing?
Of course you do get the idiots paying loads of money for rare but ugly skins to brag they're rich whilst looking like a deformed retard.
I like nice skins. People pay money for nice things. Isn't that why people wear branded clothing irl that does the same thing as cheap plain clothing?
Of course you do get the idiots paying loads of money for rare but ugly skins to brag they're rich whilst looking like a deformed retard.
gw_poster
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And please don't reply to this like you have an actual point against me, or I'll smack you upside the head with my:  Mmmkay, scrubs? - |
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E-Peen only applies if a person is bragging superiority by owning a specific item/title/armour set/etc... which is quite obviously ridiculous and hardly needs comment. If it's just people enjoying their own metagame by working toward a desired aesthetic, then why does it even bother you so much? |
While I've always appreciated your input and especially your pc knowledge, I'm sorry but I felt compelled to point out a very poignant inconsistency.
ranger o mine
why buy a 500.000 dollar car if you can buy one for 10.000?
wilderness
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<<<flash forward a few replies later>>>
While I've always appreciated your input and especially your pc knowledge, I'm sorry but I felt compelled to point out a very poignant inconsistency. |
HINT: Read what comes before the snip you made and you'll notice how I was poking fun at myself. Pay attention, now.
the Puppeteer
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why buy a 500.000 dollar car if you can buy one for 10.000?
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wilderness
Let me ask you this, ranger o mine:
When you buy items in real life, do you never consider their aesthetic value?
While function over form is a valiant ideal, and especially so if you have an extremely limited budget, if you can afford to pay for both the functionality AND a design you desire more then why would you not?
There's no point hoarding cash in game, you may as well spend it on something you enjoy.
When you buy items in real life, do you never consider their aesthetic value?
While function over form is a valiant ideal, and especially so if you have an extremely limited budget, if you can afford to pay for both the functionality AND a design you desire more then why would you not?
There's no point hoarding cash in game, you may as well spend it on something you enjoy.
lemming
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Originally Posted by Ccat
That's what I said. Trivia.
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superlost
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Originally Posted by Enon
There's actually a simple reason for that. The dye system SUCKS. Many of my armors are dyed black or white, because any other color just looks disgusting (unless we're talking about a single dye, which is utterly boring...)!
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Island Guardian
I have Purple Obby so HA!
Olim Chill
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There's no point hoarding cash in game, you may as well spend it on something you enjoy.
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I don't dislike when people show off their "leet" stuff. It only adds flavor to the game. There will always be the have / have nots - can't ever avoid that.
Ccat
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You may want to consider looking up the definition of "trivia."
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pl.n. (used with a sing. or pl. verb)
Insignificant or inessential matters; trifles.
That's right. Trivia. Trivia.
Kattar
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triv·i·a 1 (trv-)
pl.n. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Insignificant or inessential matters; trifles. That's right. Trivia. Trivia. |
Axel Zinfandel
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triv·i·a 1 (trv-)
pl.n. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Insignificant or inessential matters; trifles. That's right. Trivia. Trivia. |
As far as the OP is concerned, on a basic level, as much as GW states its' anti-grind policy, people will always MAKE grind out of it. You don't need to grind for those awesome skins, but people will do it anyway because they need the satisfaction.
The trouble with a truly anti-grind MMO is that no one will want to play it. People play MMOs for -some- sort of grind, and although GW tried all it could, the fact that some weapons look better then others and are less apt to drop means that people will grind for it.
Why else to people die they're armor black? it sure -looks- crappy, but it's more expensive. If this game didn't have the little grind it does, it'd be real boring. In fact, since I don't personally care about vanity items, and all I care about is gameplay and PvE, this game is pretty boring to me as it is, because once you hit 20 and get that good skill bar, everything else is vanity, vanity vanity
or to use a different word, it's all trivial.
Ccat
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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel
Trivial Pursuit is a game so that must be the very definition.
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gawd -
http://www.yourdictionary.com/trivia
http://www.answers.com/topic/trivia
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trivia
Achrr The Archer
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Originally Posted by superlost
I would say that black obsi armors are dominant just because black is the most expensive dye. As with other expensive items, it does not matter if it looks awful - it's the bling bling that matters. The new black is horrible. And what's more, there are very few armors that dye well with it.
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tuna-fish_sushi
Its actually a very smart move by Anet, allowing new players to get equipment equal to people who have been playing for years. But also allowing veterans to get items that look a lot better then the new player's items thus raising their epeen.
Ccat
Hence the term 'x is the new black'. Everyone just naturally has a tendancy to the color.
subarucar
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I guess that is the status symbol of leetness in this game since it really has no power elements or anything of any significant value other than vanity. Someone got a super claw of leetness looks so they are better than you syndrome?? lol
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The people who buy these rare/expensive things seem to care about the way the look, as they are paying huse amounts just for the look of an item. But then, they also have no idea of what looks good if they think FoW armour/Chaos Gloves/Ninja mask actually looks nice on a warrior? And a BDS? they look downright ugly on anything other than a necromancer. Sure it is personal opinion, but I'm there are many people out there who will agree.
Enon
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Originally Posted by Ccat
People I know just naturally have a tendancy to the color.
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Achrr The Archer
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Originally Posted by Enon
Fixed. Unless you know everybody and their opinions?
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Tijger
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Originally Posted by ranger o mine
why buy a 500.000 dollar car if you can buy one for 10.000?
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Look, if someone wants to collect unusual or rare things and is willing to pay for it, all the best to them and if I get such an item I'll be happy to sell it to them.
I can afford FoW armor and I wont buy it because I dont like it, I dont care one iota if it gives any kind of status (which I doubt, once upon a time perhaps it did), I buy what I think looks good and there aint no argueing with taste
I say live and let live, if folks want to farm tons of ectos to be able to afford that one piece of awesomeness that only they think is awesome then have at it.
dusanyu
I will admit I have droped a fewe ectos on silly vanity items chayos gloves, torm. weps etc.
About a year ago I would have agreed with the OP (in some ways i still do a max inscriptable purple is just as good as a max inscriptable gold from a Technical standpoint)
however one does reach the point of "what do i do with this stack of zkeys" titles being silly you go for the more tnagable although be it ugly reward
About a year ago I would have agreed with the OP (in some ways i still do a max inscriptable purple is just as good as a max inscriptable gold from a Technical standpoint)
however one does reach the point of "what do i do with this stack of zkeys" titles being silly you go for the more tnagable although be it ugly reward
Ccat
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Fixed. Unless you know everybody and their opinions?
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Martin Alvito
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Just because the OED says that a word means something doesn't mean that the word gets used that way in practice. Further, words adopt tone and more focused meanings as usages change. If you'd ever tried to make yourself understood in a foreign language, you'd understand how the dictionary isn't always the last word.
Zahr Dalsk
Let's clear this up with the bloody Oxford English Dictionary.
You're wrong, drop it.
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trivia • plural noun unimportant details or pieces of information. |
Ccat
Whatever. I don't care. Let's stop the derailing.
Coverticus
Ok, my two-penneth (not getting involved with the trivial matter of trivia...)
People in R/L, just as in any online game, will (in general) try to look the best. It gives them that feel good factor and therefore, potentially, an starting advantage over others. If something is worth "x" because of it's looks, rarity, size etc - many will go after it. BDS, Crystalline, Draconic, VS, Froggy etc all are bling items mainly because of the rarity. Some will like the looks of one whereas another will hate it (example many like the crystalline, I personally do not like it). BDS is ugly but is of a large size, same with the VS. Animations also come into the fray. Add all of these up and you get an idea why items cost. Just like real life. Peer pressure also factors (he/she has one, so therefore must I).
There are of course people who will say as long as it gets the job done, its fine. Doesn't matter if it cost 1g or 1000 ectoes.
In the early days, if someone was running around with FoW armour and rare weps, peeps (again, in general) would think "he/she must be good, lets invite!". Now it has never been easier to get the commodity to fund the expensive items, if this is the route a player wished to take. Others just say "if it drops, great!".
Looks are not everything, even in real life. Example being a place where I used to work. A developer (NOT from ANet ) came in on the first day to be working with me - Armani suit, expensive laptop, flashy gold watch etc etc. Had "talked" an outstanding good game in his interview by all accounts. But when the work started, he was found out very quickly. Looked good, talked great - couldn't cut the mustard when it came down to action.
He lasted 6 days...
People in R/L, just as in any online game, will (in general) try to look the best. It gives them that feel good factor and therefore, potentially, an starting advantage over others. If something is worth "x" because of it's looks, rarity, size etc - many will go after it. BDS, Crystalline, Draconic, VS, Froggy etc all are bling items mainly because of the rarity. Some will like the looks of one whereas another will hate it (example many like the crystalline, I personally do not like it). BDS is ugly but is of a large size, same with the VS. Animations also come into the fray. Add all of these up and you get an idea why items cost. Just like real life. Peer pressure also factors (he/she has one, so therefore must I).
There are of course people who will say as long as it gets the job done, its fine. Doesn't matter if it cost 1g or 1000 ectoes.
In the early days, if someone was running around with FoW armour and rare weps, peeps (again, in general) would think "he/she must be good, lets invite!". Now it has never been easier to get the commodity to fund the expensive items, if this is the route a player wished to take. Others just say "if it drops, great!".
Looks are not everything, even in real life. Example being a place where I used to work. A developer (NOT from ANet
) came in on the first day to be working with me - Armani suit, expensive laptop, flashy gold watch etc etc. Had "talked" an outstanding good game in his interview by all accounts. But when the work started, he was found out very quickly. Looked good, talked great - couldn't cut the mustard when it came down to action. He lasted 6 days...
crazybanshee
40k is steep but people are idiots. Either they don't know what it's worth, or they think you're desperate and will pay that. Fwiw, a focus core of aptitude 20% is worth 3-4k and a forget me not 20% is worth 22-25k.
lord of all tyria
I own 10 torment shields. Why? Because I RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing can.
Gli
I still miss the old dye system. I've a gorgeous (in my own not so humble opinion) deep red elite imperial ritualist armor that's an old-school style mixture of just red and several blacks. It can't be recreated with the new system, which means I can't have similarly dyed but differently runed spare parts for it. 
Oh well, at least EotN gave us perfect salvage kits. They're cheaper than overwriting runes and insignias all the time.
Oh well, at least EotN gave us perfect salvage kits. They're cheaper than overwriting runes and insignias all the time.
Nerel
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I think we can pretty safely assume that the OP is lying and using this example as a cheap way to further his obvious point.
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Looks around Kamadan american dis 1... yep, plenty of stupid people, he might be telling the truth.
Never underestimate the stupidity or greed of the average GW player, you'll only be disappointed.
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by Achrr The Archer
I like the color black. (Or absence of color to be politically correct).
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Because, y'know, black is a colour.
Rocky Raccoon
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
I take it that's a joke about the inaccuracy of political correctness; it certainly made me smile.
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http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
As to the OP what else is there to do with the in game money?
QueenofDeath
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Well the quoted mod was a HCT mod for an offhand (Focus core of aptitude) which clearly isn't worth the price asked (easy enough to get in the 2-5k range). HSR inscription (forget me not) on the other hand, usually an easy 20k, or at least it has been for the longest time, and you often see stupid people trying to sell for far more...
Looks around Kamadan american dis 1... yep, plenty of stupid people, he might be telling the truth. Never underestimate the stupidity or greed of the average GW player, you'll only be disappointed. |
It would just be nice to have some things of value because of the value they have INGAME not some vanity value. I just don't get all excited and fall all over myself for a skin or the color of it. Thus, why I said I just don't see the high value of things in this game. Nothing that I don't already have makes me any more powerful and everything was pretty cheap to obtain.
I guess I just see the glass half empty.