weapons in towns

Axeman002

Axeman002

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2008

A/Mo

Sorry if there's a post on this or was one about 2 years ago which i missed....but why didn't Anet allow us to show our weapons inside towns...we can show off armor's and mini pets..but not weapons..any specific reason in this?

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

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Towns would have unberable lag due to the amount of people with their weapons, and you already have titles to show off your epeen.

Caw521

Caw521

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

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Possibly because of the Vampiric HP degeneration?

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

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It would be cool to see other people's weapon sets. Implemented like the show/do not show cape and head piece.

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

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Yup, a needed feature which ANET was lazy to implement.

Jensy

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

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A needed feature only for people who seem to think that other people care about what kind of weapons you have. Let's not stop here, we should be able to go /req and knock someone over for 5 seconds with huge number 7's...

Loot Junkie

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Join Date: Jan 2007

in a utopian dream

clan dethryche[dth]

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Look at the amount of weapons that have animations(VS, fellblade, FDS, IDS, et al), surely this in itself would cause lag.

Saph

Saph

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Join Date: Feb 2009

R/

Do we really want people pinging and 'sharing' their weapon sets in towns? The spam makes certain places bad enough as it is, and this would be one more thing to spam.

dr love

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

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yea armor is reduced in towns to reduce lag and the hit on your computer. so adding weapons would just add lag. if you want to show off your weapons, play aion and spend $15/mo

majikmajikmajik

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Join Date: Aug 2007

SATown~Tx

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Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Don't want this for the aforementioned reason: lag. Besides, it'd probably be annoying, and there are idiots out there who'd say 'omg you're not using a VS (as opposed to other spear skins) therefore you suck'.

Dzjudz

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Originally Posted by Caw521 View Post
Possibly because of the Vampiric HP degeneration?
I don't think degeneration in towns is a problem.

dusanyu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Illusion of skillz [Iz]

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possibly because it is a town.

lol anet should implement this feature this feature next April fools but if you Brandish your weapons in town you get arrested.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Pointless.

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Thenameless Wonder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

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Originally Posted by Caw521 View Post
Possibly because of the Vampiric HP degeneration?
Haha that would be funny to watch. Say you Zrank someone in town and they die from degen. Funny if it was real, but I agree with the majority that it would cause too much lag and etc etc...

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

LOL...
Just what we need Everyone trying to show off there weapons,while spamming /rank, /zrank in there Black Fow,Mask of mo zing and chaos gloves...

QueenofDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2009

So mini pets don't cause lag?

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath View Post
So mini pets don't cause lag?
Yeah, they do - but there's a limit on how many can be displayed in a district. Can you imagine the QQ fest that would result if they implemented the ability to display weapons but limited it to only a few people at a time? Aside from that, how does one lag-iducing feature justify adding another? It doesn't.

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

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probably suspend animation of weapons

but other then that useless implementation

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

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*must wave e-peen*

dusanyu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Illusion of skillz [Iz]

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*must wave e-peen*

done os that enough e-peen for you or would you like more :P

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

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Originally Posted by mage767 View Post
Yup, a needed feature which ANET was lazy to implement.
Anet doesnt care about your e-peen, nothing to do with lazy.

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

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When I am in town, I take out my sword and shake it at people all the time.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

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The only reason for a weapon in a town, is if you had dual challenges in game. Seeing as that is not possible there is no need.

QueenofDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
Yeah, they do - but there's a limit on how many can be displayed in a district. Can you imagine the QQ fest that would result if they implemented the ability to display weapons but limited it to only a few people at a time? Aside from that, how does one lag-iducing feature justify adding another? It doesn't.
I'd rather see other peoples weapons and gear than stupid mini pets was why I asked. Get rid of mini pets and bring on the weapons and gear sitings. )

El Presidente

El Presidente

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Lookout Post #1, Andes Mountains

Custer Was Ganked [7th]

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath View Post
I'd rather see other peoples weapons and gear than stupid mini pets was why I asked. Get rid of mini pets and bring on the weapons and gear sitings. )
There's a reason why only so many minis can be displayed in one district.

Replacing minis in towns with the display of weapons would have a limit imposed, too. It'd bring out the same old QQers spamming for someone to put away their weapon show they can show off their alleged leetness.

I'd really not like to see, "I'm wielding a ... but I can't show it because there are too many noob weapons out right now!" all day in local chat. It's bad enough now as it is.

Want to see someone's weapon? Want to show off yours? Go to a PvP area...go outside of town. Just don't fall for the "drop it on the ground so I can see it better" routine...

QueenofDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2009

Yes but all mini's have animations and move around. Weapons wouldn't and only a few have animations. Therefore you could have more weapons exposed in towns/cities/outposts than mini's. ) Bring on the weapons and get rid of the minis.

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kamadan would look pretty funny with V-spears pointing everywhere.

But yeah, pointless. I couldn't care less what anyone is using. If I see one, I've seen it a thousand times.

QueenofDeath

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Join Date: Jul 2009

But not in every color of the rainbow Stolen souls. )

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

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You do realize that most of the people who want to show off their weapons, all have the exact same set? It seems to be the normal teenage "I want to look like every other teenager" mindset. They run around in the exact same armor pieces and use the exact same shield skin and weapon skin and feel the need to show everyone that they look the same.

But the rest of us use what we like and don't care what anyone thinks about it. My warrior runs around in her non-elite Kurzick armor with a Chaos Axe she's had since 2006. I don't feel the need to show off my axe in town or any of my shields. I don't even bother with my minis except on CoF runs (which are the ultimate show-off area).

QueenofDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2009

What I realize is those that are against weapons being shown in town are the ones that don't have any worth showing. lol Always too sides to that coin Darcy. )

Dzjudz

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath View Post
What I realize is those that are against weapons being shown in town are the ones that don't have any worth showing. lol Always too sides to that coin Darcy. )
I have my fair share of (very) rare weapons, but I see no need for this option in towns.

El Presidente

El Presidente

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Lookout Post #1, Andes Mountains

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Originally Posted by Axeman002 View Post
....but why didn't Anet allow us to show our weapons inside towns...any specific reason in this?
You initially asked what the reason was why Anet didn't implement /lookatmyleetweapon in towns; we replied.

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath View Post
I'd rather see other peoples weapons and gear than stupid mini pets was why I asked.
Now, you've moved your line of conversation to a suggestion and thus, this should be moved to Sardelac.

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath View Post
What I realize is those that are against weapons being shown in town are the ones that don't have any worth showing. lol Always too sides to that coin Darcy. )
Uh, right...because taking a defensive stance when the majority of replies is against the idea is the proper way to go. Assumption and ignorance (of what weapons and the rarity of those we have) will win us over.

Lexar

Lexar

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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How do animations on weapons cost lag? How is that in any way related to connection speed? In most, if not all cases it's an animated texture, you load it just like any other texture that has no animation. Animations by themselves don't cause lag. Animations on minipets or weapons are completely client side, meaning it's generated on your pc, so it does not influence the server.

If by lag some people mean a drop in framerate, that's a completely different issue. I think the effect of that would be minimal anyway.

The only problem is that people have many weapons, and every time someone switches weaponsets, the game has a load a new pair, or preload every single possible weapon and dye combo. That would be unfortunate. If they make it so that you have an 'outpost set' that you can't change except in your GH or something, then there shouldn't be much of a lag problem at all.

Seriously, it's just an extra few numerical values you have to load only once, the strain on the servers wouldn't be much bigger. In fact, they have increased the maximum number of people in a district a few times. They can just as easily set it back to accomodate for a possible lag issue (if there would even be one to begin with), nobody would notice a significant difference.

And then add an option to turn it off if you don't want to see it, and everyone is happy.

Rocky Raccoon

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

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Originally Posted by Lexar View Post
Seriously, it's just an extra few numerical values you have to load only once, the strain on the servers wouldn't be much bigger. In fact, they have increased the maximum number of people in a district a few times. They can just as easily set it back to accomodate for a possible lag issue (if there would even be one to begin with), nobody would notice a significant difference.

And then add an option to turn it off if you don't want to see it, and everyone is happy.
Why is it every time someone thinks we need something changed, it is just matter of a few numercial changes to do so?

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by QueenofDeath View Post
What I realize is those that are against weapons being shown in town are the ones that don't have any worth showing. lol Always too sides to that coin Darcy. )
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can say I do have the V-Spear (just like everyone else), the tormented stuff (just like everyone else), the Emerald Blade, Celestial Compass, and Amethyst Aegis (just like everyone else), as well as the less "popular" stuff that I tend to use more often (Mursaat Staff). It's not that I'm jealous of everyone else's "leet gear". It's just that I see it all every day, in every run, and every mission. I don't care enough about what others are using, to want to see it all in towns, too. I've seen it all a thousand times already. When I see the Black-dyed FoW Monks with purple Chaos Gloves and Black Mo-Zing Mask, I can pretty much guess that they use a black V-Spear and Tormy Shield. Seeing all of that in town would just be...blah. So not all of us against it are poor folks with nothing to show. We just don't care enough about what others are using. Everyone's entitled to their opinion...some care enough about what others are using, or want to show off what he/she is using. Others don't really care enough to want to see it in towns.

Lexar

Lexar

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger View Post
Why is it every time someone thinks we need something changed, it is just matter of a few numercial changes to do so?
You should read again and understand that I didn't say it takes just a few lines of script to add a new feature.

I said that it doesn't add a lot of strain to the servers if you have to load the info for the weapons they carry.

As for your question, perhaps it's because you see things that aren't there?

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

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Originally Posted by Lexar View Post
You should read again and understand that I didn't say it takes just a few lines of script to add a new feature.

I said that it doesn't add a lot of strain to the servers if you have to load the info for the weapons they carry.

As for your question, perhaps it's because you see things that aren't there?
I quote you "it's just an extra few numerical values".

FoxBat

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

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This isn't about server strain, it's about loading client memory with all those weapon/shield textures and models for every single player in an outpost, and then reloading them whenever you weapon swap. GW was built for low-req computers, as-is they already display all those people in outposts use low-res armors. This is an intentional design choice and is unlikely to change.

Coverticus

Coverticus

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Join Date: Jan 2006

The Zodiac Elites [TZE]

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Originally Posted by Lexar View Post
How do animations on weapons cost lag? How is that in any way related to connection speed? In most, if not all cases it's an animated texture....
It would cause lag though.

In conjunction with Foxbat's above explanation, the connection currently supplies the client data such as a player's co-ordinates, armour being worn, it's colour, the player's looks, emote(s), the title being worn and if a minipet is out. Add in the weapon set being held (this could constantly change) as well as the dye colour.

Pop that into a heavily populated area and you will get more lag - client and/or connection.