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Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

10 Oct 2009 at 16:44 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracko

you're being offtopic yourself, hypocrit.

Actually, you're not using your brain since I'm OP

/closethreadpl0x

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

10 Oct 2009 at 16:46 - 82

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Actually, you're not using your brain since I'm OP

/closethreadpl0x

oh so since you're the OP you can change the subject in any way you want?

lolled.

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

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10 Oct 2009 at 16:46 - 83

This thread was a bad idea to start with, on guru when you take something as pushy as drugs, it's going to turn into a shitfest.

Red Apple

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

[DuDe]

Mo/

10 Oct 2009 at 16:46 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracko

wait, the people in your guild have no right to tell the entire guild what they do in real life?

awesome guild, can i join?

If the guild is not comfortable with the talk why forcing it?, it(as a community) has the right to choose what is allowed and what is not, a warning about it would have been the best IMO, but whatever floats their boat.

I have came across guilds that have rules and policies about their ingame chat so, if in order to join the guild you must agree with them there is no problem in kicking.

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Oct 2009 at 16:46 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracko

I see no problem with that, seriously. It doesn't hurt anyone in any way.

Don't be ignorant.

Your drug discussion could be 'awesome' to you, yet hurtful to another. You don't know where people have come from in life.

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

10 Oct 2009 at 16:47 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by own age myname

This thread was a bad idea to start with, on guru when you take something as pushy as drugs, it's going to turn into a shitfest.

actually i think theres no reason to close this thread, i haven't seen cursing or whatever. its still a good thread imo.

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

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10 Oct 2009 at 16:48 - 87

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

Don't be ignorant.

Your drug discussion could be 'awesome' to you, yet hurtful to another. You don't know where people have come from in life.

Yet, your judging that people who do drugs are bad. How do you know what's gone on with their life? Maybe they had abusive parents, really bad friends, and they just want to turn it all around.

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

10 Oct 2009 at 16:49 - 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

Don't be ignorant.

Your drug discussion could be 'awesome' to you, yet hurtful to another. You don't know where people have come from in life.

i've been there myself, and i actually feel good it can be discussed openly. now when people start cursing at drug-users/non-drug users, that would be bad and must be stopped.

but a good discussion is healthy and is vital to get problems out of the way.

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

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10 Oct 2009 at 16:51 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Actually, yes close. This thread is going way out of hand from what it was intended.

Anyone making attack posts in this thread is an utter retard, and the posts are way too out of context of the point of the thread.
Here's an analogy to sum up how this is going:

You ask opinions and give yours --> People take it as a complaint and start attacking you because you don't like your opinion --> It turns into a debate thread on drugs.

Though on the topic of drugs, this is off-topic on the guild wars aspect of gathering opinions.

But just for the argument, congratulations! If you approve of others slipping hallucinogens in someone pizza, you sir' are part of our modern world's biggest problems!!

Either way, this is getting inappropriate.

I agree with you on this very much. Well spoken.

~LeNa~

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Oct 2009 at 16:53 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by own age myname

Yet, your judging that people who do drugs are bad. How do you know what's gone on with their life? Maybe they had abusive parents, really bad friends, and they just want to turn it all around.

I'm not talking to you. Don't be a conversation thief.

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

10 Oct 2009 at 16:54 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by own age myname

Yet, your judging that people who do drugs are bad. How do you know what's gone on with their life? Maybe they had abusive parents, really bad friends, and they just want to turn it all around.

So you're saying that the use of DRUGS is okay to use as a scapegoat when you've had a bad childhood/abusive parents/ect? Wow... WTB reality...

~LeNa~

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

10 Oct 2009 at 16:55 - 92

Augh... I regret making this thread. It's getting a little immature and ridiculous.
If a mod doesn't lock it within the next hour or so, I'm reporting this post to get their attention.

Short

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

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10 Oct 2009 at 16:56 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

So you're saying that the use of DRUGS is okay to use as a scapegoat when you've had a bad childhood/abusive parents/ect? Wow... WTB reality...

~LeNa~

It's their own life, they can decide whether it is okay to use as a scapegoat or not.

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Oct 2009 at 16:57 - 94

OP, instead of complaining about this thread every five minutes with a post, report it.

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Oct 2009 at 16:58 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Short

It's their own life, they can decide whether it is okay to use as a scapegoat or not.

Actually, no it's not.

Just because they had a bad childhood, doesn't give them an excuse to start using drugs.

Short

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:00 - 96

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

Actually, no it's not.

Just because they had a bad childhood, doesn't give them an excuse to start using drugs.

Who ARE you to judge, it IS their own life. And if it isn't who's is it?

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

10 Oct 2009 at 17:01 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

Actually, no it's not.

Just because they had a bad childhood, doesn't give them an excuse to start using drugs.

Unless they force other people to use them, YEAH THEY CAN. They can even chop off their own leg if they please.
Because it's theirs.

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Oct 2009 at 17:02 - 98

Unbelievable. Do you not get it?

It doesn't matter if it's their life or not; drugs is not an excuse for anything.

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

10 Oct 2009 at 17:02 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

Actually, no it's not.

Just because they had a bad childhood, doesn't give them an excuse to start using drugs.

noone said using drugs is good, but if people WANT to use it as a scapegoat then who am i to say they cant?

it's called freedom.

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

10 Oct 2009 at 17:03 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

Unbelievable. Do you not get it?

It doesn't matter if it's their life or not; drugs is not an excuse for anything.

point being?

Jessyi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

10 Oct 2009 at 17:04 - 101

Drugs are for complete assholes.

Unless you were born on crack, or somebody tied you down and shoved blunts down your throat/injected you with heroin/whatever then at some point you made a choice and f---ed up. That's what you call an "objective fact".

Drugs are a way to alter your perception of reality. If you prefer a drug-induced fantasy over actual reality, that's a sign that you've got problems which I can't guess at and are somewhat outside the scope of this thread.

Go ahead and rationalize your choice to me, but don't think I won't know you're only trying to convince yourself.

Short

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:04 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

Unbelievable. Do you not get it?

It doesn't matter if it's their life or not; drugs is not an excuse for anything.

They can use it as an excuse for anything if they want to. It is their life. Life doesn't make sense, so why should excuses in life make sense?

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:05 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

So you're saying that the use of DRUGS is okay to use as a scapegoat when you've had a bad childhood/abusive parents/ect? Wow... WTB reality...

~LeNa~

No, I'm not. I'm just saying don't judge people that do drugs. I'd like to see you forget and live a happy life when your drunken dad is beating you. They already have low willpower from the beatings, so they resort to drugs to forget it.

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Oct 2009 at 17:07 - 104

Point being, what?

If your going to be a dumbass in this conversation, then I'm out. I'm not going to argue with someone who doesn't 'get' what I'm saying every five minutes.

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

10 Oct 2009 at 17:08 - 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessyi

Drugs are for complete assholes.

Unless you were born on crack, or somebody tied you down and shoved blunts down your throat/injected you with heroin/whatever then at some point you made a choice and f---ed up. That's what you call an "objective fact".

Drugs are a way to alter your perception of reality. If you prefer a drug-induced fantasy over actual reality, that's a sign that you've got problems which I can't guess at and are somewhat outside the scope of this thread.

Go ahead and rationalize your choice to me, but don't think I won't know you're only trying to convince yourself.

if people WANT to alter their perception of reality, why not let them? why are they complete assholes if they choose that way of living?

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

10 Oct 2009 at 17:10 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

Point being, what?

If your going to be a dumbass in this conversation, then I'm out. I'm not going to argue with someone who doesn't 'get' what I'm saying every five minutes.

i mean what is the point of stating that drugs is not an excuse for anything, it is not the point of the discussion we have here.

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:11 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracko

noone said using drugs is good, but if people WANT to use it as a scapegoat then who am i to say they cant?

it's called freedom.

Maybe 'cause it's called "illegal" ?

Also, do not double post. If you wish to add something more then click edit and insert what you wish to say.

~LeNa~

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Me/Mo

10 Oct 2009 at 17:11 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracko

if people WANT to alter their perception of reality, why not let them? why are they complete assholes if they choose that way of living?

Because they end up avoiding the reality of society and their resposibilities as they get more addicted? Therefore becoming unproductive member of society trying to get more drugs at any cost.

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

10 Oct 2009 at 17:12 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessyi

Unless you were born on crack, or somebody tied you down and shoved blunts down your throat/injected you with heroin/whatever then at some point you made a choice and f---ed up.

So just because someone used drugs on himself means he RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up in life? And you call that a fact?
Oh wow.

Quote:

Because they end up avoiding the reality of society and their resposibilities as they get more addicted?

What is someone does drugs and he's not avoiding his responsibility, is a normal working human being?
Oh, I guess people like that don't exist.

Red Apple

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Mo/

10 Oct 2009 at 17:12 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracko

if people WANT to alter their perception of reality, why not let them? why are they complete assholes if they choose that way of living?

Because this is a fantasy game, you are discussing this in a GAME-RELATED Board, what does drugs have to do with the game in first place?

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

10 Oct 2009 at 17:14 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

Maybe 'cause it's called "illegal" ?

~LeNa~

I live in a country where you are free to use drugs.

Short

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:16 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimso

Because they end up avoiding the reality of society and their resposibilities as they get more addicted? Therefore becoming unproductive member of society trying to get more drugs at any cost.

Whoever said everything you have to do needs to help make you a "productive member of society". In fact, who says you need to be a "productive member of society".

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Oct 2009 at 17:16 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracko

i mean what is the point of stating that drugs is not an excuse for anything, it is not the point of the discussion we have here.

Because it is. Drugs is not an excuse for usage, and it never will be.

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

10 Oct 2009 at 17:17 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

Because it is. Drugs is not an excuse for usage, and it never will be.

People need excuses what to do with their money, free time and um, LIFE?

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

10 Oct 2009 at 17:23 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

Close please.

This.

There's no point in staying with a guild if you feel uncomfortable. Not much else to discuss... there never was, it's pretty much common sense.

wilderness

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:24 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimso

Because they end up avoiding the reality of society and their resposibilities as they get more addicted? Therefore becoming unproductive member of society trying to get more drugs at any cost.

I love the assumption that everyone who's ever used the harder stuff is automatically a morally barren pit of molten debauchery.

Many successful business men and women today were a part of the 60s drug binge, and they've grown respectable and efficient families and careers.

Alcohol can cause addiction and ruin lives even more easily as it's a taxable commodity. The hypocrisy of this situation is galling, especially when people hark on about the 'objective facts'.

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Oct 2009 at 17:25 - 117

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSephir

People need excuses what to do with their money, free time and um, LIFE?

So you're saying that if you have extra cash and more free time, than you could use drugs.

Sorry, but that's not an excuse either.

Short

Lion's Arch Merchant

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N/Me

10 Oct 2009 at 17:27 - 118

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

So you're saying that if you have extra cash and more free time, than you could use drugs.

Sorry, but that's not an excuse either.

You could. Why the hell do you need an excuse in the first place.

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Oct 2009 at 17:30 - 119

Yes you could. But it's not an excuse. Do I have to keep repeating myself?

Quote:

Why the hell do you need an excuse in the first place.

You will always have an excuse when using drugs.

devilnuker

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

None

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10 Oct 2009 at 17:30 - 120

Quote:

Originally Posted by flubber

there are some nice 'christian' guilds out there. join one OP.

the jonas brothers RAWK!!!!

Jonas brothers suck ass