Ectos are 7k @ trader

optymind

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Before UWSC ectos were 5k, and now after uwsc, they go up to 7k. Makes no sense.

Black Metal

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it makes no sense that people are hording ectos because everyone believes that at the finale of the Halloween UW event, in which there is specific references to uwsc in the lore from King Frozenwind, that the uwsc will be killed for good?

Really? Doesn't make sense to you?

kartmaster

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People are probably hoarding to see how high the price will go. I imagine we'll see a spike in ecto prices, then they'll level off again.

Thenameless Wonder

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Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
it makes no sense that people are hording ectos because everyone believes that at the finale of the Halloween UW event, in which there is specific references to uwsc in the lore from King Frozenwind, that the uwsc will be killed for good?

Really? Doesn't make sense to you?
Where does this come from? This myth?

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Originally Posted by Thenameless Wonder View Post
Where does this come from? This myth?
What myth? Many, many people believe that the series of Halloween quests are leading up to big changes in the underworld. That's a fact. That being said, no one from A-Net has said that the UW will be changed (or not). It's all speculation. So people are hoarding Ectos, hoping to make some quick cash - that's all it is.

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Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
it makes no sense that people are hording ectos because everyone believes that at the finale of the Halloween UW event, in which there is specific references to uwsc in the lore from King Frozenwind, that the uwsc will be killed for good?

Really? Doesn't make sense to you?
What lore is this?

EDIT: Oh crap! The new quests are out!

Eragon Zarroc

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What lore is this?
read what is said by the npc's in the quest chains. Dhuum is going to break out because of the increase of deaths in the underworld. His seal can no longer hold him.

optymind

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Join Date: May 2008

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1. I'm sure anet will remove UW because they don't feel like changing SF. This will entice people to buy GW2 because when one skill becomes imbalanced they will remove content.

2. I heard you can farm ectos in UW without having to finish UW. This is common sense, isn't it? Tombs also drops ectos.

Targren

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Originally Posted by optymind View Post
2. I heard you can farm ectos in UW without having to finish UW. This is common sense, isn't it? Tombs also drops ectos.
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Yeah, I think it's more likely that the spike is because of dipwads thinking the nerf and theoretical SF nerf are impending has lead to hoarding.

Maybe I'll whip out my trapper build again... ^_^

Villnar Shadowbane

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Meh, ectos can go up as high as they want I'm sitting with a pretty amount.

Zanagi Kazuhiko

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OHH, this is why its been taking so long for the SF/UWSC nerf...nice way to nerf it

war330

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god this is sooo dumb i hope ecto prices go down and obby shards go up :P being selfish here but idc >.>

angela faye

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nvm, stupid me..


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Originally Posted by angela faye View Post
lol, just checked ecto's price at rare material trader, and its SOLD OUT!!

This never happened before.......

What the hell going on here?!



Maybe there is a group of rich kids buying mass amount of ectos at trader? that might explain this....
How could this be logically possiable?....THIS IS MADNESS!

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

The trader only sells what people sell to him. So, going by this it means no one is selling to the trader.

Why?

Simple, they can get a better price selling to other players who are hoping the ecto price will sky rocket.

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Maybe there is a group of rich kids buying mass amount of ectos at trader? that might explain this....
Need a fair people to do that. I tried many years ago with a few wealthy people.

Yawgmoth

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Ecto price spikes have happened in the history a lot, they were either very quick price spikes not connected to anything happening in the game, going from fairly stable 8k to 11k and evening out in a matter of a couple hours, or there were bigger ones coming from pure playerbase panic about certain game updates that they thought would impact the ecto price. The first kind was most likely caused by RMT businesses either acquiring large amount of ectos to sell directly to customers or quickly needing to "invest" a couple dozen million gold that didn't sell well enough and bots needed space to keep farming new gold. The second kind is most likely what's happening now. Panic.

Players need to learn that the trader is not able to accurately track the value of items, especially when they're as heavily traded among players without npc assistance as ectos are. True value is to be seen observing the rates of bulk WTB/WTS spammers, if you still see many WTS 19=100k and WTB 20=100k who move large amounts then there's nothing serious happening to the price.

AKB48

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It's a quest, it doesn't mean anything, if Anet is gonna kill UWSC, it would have done so ages ago. And if Anet wants to kill UWSC in a story-way(Dhumm gaining power, thus obtain the ability to penetrate shadow form), it can do it so easily: under the influence of death of humans in the underworld(us "noobs" who die sometimes, as opposed to the so called "5 minute pros"), the monsters in underworld gained a new ability that brings them to a greater height.(basically a skill or two that makes it impossible for permas to kill the monsters).

rangereminem1984

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one thign wrong uwsc ist nerfed lol so ecto prices rising isnt becuz uwsc nerf lol

Chthon

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Join Date: Apr 2007

While I agree with the speculation that UWSC is about to get nerfed, it strikes me as odd that it's having an influence on ecto prices.

I speculate:

1. UW is probably going to get one new quest that permas can't do. All the lore signs are pointing to a battle with Dhuum, probably located inside the heretofore sealed up hall.

2. UW is probably not going to get a major makeover. It wouldn't make sense to tweak all those quests and spawn points just to change them a week later.

From that, I feel reasonably confident speculating:

3. Perma itself is not going to be nerfed.

4. Plains is not going to be nerfed.

Now, what brings in more ectos: UWSC or plains farming? As long as you can still farm plains, the demise of speed clear shouldn't matter to the price of ectos.

A11Eur0

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc View Post
read what is said by the npc's in the quest chains. Dhuum is going to break out because of the increase of deaths in the underworld. His seal can no longer hold him.
Makes no sense...UWSCs kill the agents of Dhumm so it only makes sense that he'd be more secure. bunch of hearsay and rumor-spreading to drive prices up.

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Originally Posted by rangereminem1984 View Post
one thign wrong uwsc ist nerfed lol so ecto prices rising isnt becuz uwsc nerf lol
You should end yourself. Not only is your post horrific and nigh impossible to decipher, but you didn't even understand what was being said. The rumor is that it WILL be nerfed, not that it IS nerfed.

BLOODGOAT

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Originally Posted by rangereminem1984 View Post
one thign wrong uwsc ist nerfed lol so ecto prices rising isnt becuz uwsc nerf lol
I don't think I've ever seen you make an intelligent, observant, coherent, or understanding post. Ever.

Bluefeather

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one thign wrong uwsc ISN'T nerfed lol so ecto prices rising isnt becuz uwsc nerf lol
I think that's what he was trying to say.

Yawgmoth

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There's another aspect that's missed by most people talking about ecto prices - the prices of 7k or 10k or even 15k all happened in the old age of GW economy. The New Age started with the HardMode+Lootscaling update, Q1-2007 and it caused the value of gold itself rise dramatically and permanently. Prices of anything from before and after this massive upheaval cannot be rightfully compared. Now even if the nerfage will be massive the prices won't go past 6k real market value. Short huge price spike is to be expected upon the announcement of a nerf, obviously, but it won't last long.
Keep in mind that ectos were ALWAYS farmable in the history of GW, remember 55+SS or plenty of different smites farming builds? They're still here and I don't see them going anywhere.

Rushin Roulette

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Originally Posted by optymind View Post
Before UWSC ectos were 5k, and now after uwsc, they go up to 7k. Makes no sense.
I dont buy this. Ecto prices were fluctuating at 5,5K-6K before the Ursan Nerf. The Ecto price started to drop during the time that Ursan Blessing was the skill to use in the UWSC runs, Then SF and UWSC came and teh price dropped even further. SF was nerfed, so that only Sin primaries could use it and the price went up a bit again.
The Ecto price has been going up for a while again, not only since the new quests were implemented (even before the recent UW quest changes).

This is why I suspect that the Ecto prices are not coppled to the player base spending and buying activities, but controlled artificially. Maybe King Frozenwind is dealing insider stocks now.

Jensy

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It's like when stores run out of bottled water before a Hurricane :P It'll go up, then level off again. But really, who cares? I don't. I have all of the +ecto crud that I need + armor so uh /careface

Faure

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Originally Posted by rangereminem1984 View Post
one thign wrong uwsc ist nerfed lol so ecto prices rising isnt becuz uwsc nerf lol
You should stop laughing before trying to type something, makes it better readable for others.

s73ve_o

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You should stop laughing before trying to type something, makes it better readable for others.
agreed but i think what he is trying to say is that cant be the reason because UWSC isnt really nerfed yet, but that statement is false

its the same situation as the gas price spike a year or so ago. Although we still had plenty gas people anticipated that there would be a shortage and that alone was enough to drive prices up, although it is through the farmers hording ectos in the game while the gas crisis was through people buying gas bonds (or whatever its called, basically like stocks but in gas itself) at higher prices.

Nereyda Shoaal

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Well it's not the price of the ectos that bothers me, I'm worried about items which usually are being sold for ectos (braces, rare minis etc). The prices are not adjusted and it will take a lot of time to get that done (if)
I remember trader selling ectos for 3.8 a while back, 15k too (as someone mentioned). This is the very reason I don't like to invest in them, it's a volatile market and having a pile of them can give plenty of sleepless nights

Pleikki

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Originally Posted by Nereida Shoal View Post
pile of them can give plenty of sleepless nights
Then youve got a problem having sleepless nights due a GAME..

But anywyas. i cant belive that some ppl think SF/uwsc will be nerfed as Halloween finale.. Ecto raising wont bother me.. sure i dont even have ectos that id make any profit from it raising. but tbh, ecto value dont matter. its just thing used to do 100k+ trader mostly.. .. and higher the value. better. as it takes less room keep ectos then.. compare that if ectos at 5k. and ectos at 15k.. you need 3 stacks on inv when at 5k. but just 1 stack when 15k.. ..

jonnieboi05

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Originally Posted by Pleikki View Post
Then youve got a problem having sleepless nights due a GAME..

But anywyas. i cant belive that some ppl think SF/uwsc will be nerfed as Halloween finale.. Ecto raising wont bother me.. sure i dont even have ectos that id make any profit from it raising. but tbh, ecto value dont matter. its just thing used to do 100k+ trader mostly.. .. and higher the value. better. as it takes less room keep ectos then.. compare that if ectos at 5k. and ectos at 15k.. you need 3 stacks on inv when at 5k. but just 1 stack when 15k.. ..
And people were complaining over that other guy who typed one typo and an unformatted sentence? ........


On-topic: What happens happens. If ectos hit 8-10k per and stays there then so be it. I am ready to accept any change that is thrown at us in-game.



~LeNa~

Saph

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Man suckage. Good thing I got my obbi armor a week before all this happened. I never understood people's obessession with hoarding ectos and what not. Thank god I have no use for them, I always preferred pure.

Nereyda Shoaal

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Originally Posted by Pleikki View Post
Then youve got a problem having sleepless nights due a GAME..
FYI I don't have "a pile" or even "quater of a pile". I said I refuse to invest in ectos, didn't I? And I'll tell you why
Early 2007 I was buying ectos 9-9.5k each. I moved a house and had no internet for few months. Came back to GW... ectos 5k each
At the end of the day gold is the trading currency in GW not ecto

SkekSister

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The only thing ectos are good for are FoW armour. I have long been amused and a little surprised that folks still give a crap about Obsidian since so many people have it. Thus I am also surprised that ectos have any significant value at this stage in the game's lifecycle. There are fewer and fewer new players who aspire to Obby armour, and lots of long time players with more or less everything there is to have. Why is ecto still worth anything at all? <discuss>

RTSFirebat

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The price goes up and down all the time. Every time it goes up one of these threads pops up. They will balance out again in time.

kupp

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Man, I really should have turned my zkeys for ectos when I had the chance...

Mike P.

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Originally Posted by Xoganor View Post
Ectoplasm have been at 15k before.
Good ol' days. Buying them for x amount in European district, then switching to the American version and selling them for a lot more, hehehe.

Lykan

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Its all a halloween storyline. He will probably break out over the weekend and there will be another halloween questline to seal him back again. Bye bye Dhuum.

(i like the little dig at farmers blaming them for slaying so many creatures and causing Dhuums release tho lol.

kupp

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon View Post
While I agree with the speculation that UWSC is about to get nerfed, it strikes me as odd that it's having an influence on ecto prices.

I speculate:

1. UW is probably going to get one new quest that permas can't do. All the lore signs are pointing to a battle with Dhuum, probably located inside the heretofore sealed up hall.
That's a little far-fetched isn't it? That quest if there is one, will just be part of the halloween event.

I still believe in an SF nerf especially because it's beeing abused on the whole game not just UW. November skill balance, right?

emuking

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people aren't hoarding ecto on purpose... the only people who are SUPER rich have the ability to "hoard" ecto and usually convert it to arms (or beetles if u a freak). They maxed their banks with gold so all they have left is ecto etc.. , they are finishing their title/ item/ minipet collections and basically are done with the game in terms of accomplishments

Carboplatin

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just add an enviromental effect in the Hall of Judgement where you can't use enchants (like the deep).

I won't kill SC, but it'll be more inline with the current FowSC, which is about 30min and acceptable imo.