Armbrace prices = ridiculous?

jimbo32

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It seems to me that until recently, armbrace prices had been fairly steady in the ~45e range (give or take). Since ecto was going for 22 or 23/100k, this put the price of an arm at roughly 200k.

Now I'm seeing people spamming WTS arms for 50e (not sure if they're getting that, but I've seen sales for 47-48e), despite the fact that ecto have gone way up - ~17/100k. This puts the price of an armbrace at nearly 300k.

Does this make any sense to anyone? Is it just power-traders trying to take advantage of high ecto prices, or have arms suddenly gotten more scarce? Basically - what the hell?

AlsPals

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In the high end market, you can do whatever you damn well plz with armbrace prices. Its partially due to people trying to make maximum return on them...its has little to do with ectos, but enough that its understandable why people are upset. Armbrace price does not and never has correlated with ectos...it is practically set, whether ectos are 4k or 10k(lets hope they dont get back up there...though I would take advantage myself.)

Jensy

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Yeah, you'd think that it'd take less ectos to reach the crazybutt prices, not more. I don't get it. Greedy people are greedy.

own age myname

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Yeah, it's crazy. I wanted to buy an armbrace for a wep. Looks like I'll be waiting awhile.

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Originally Posted by AlsPals View Post
In the high end market, you can do whatever you damn well plz with armbrace prices. Its partially due to people trying to make maximum return on them...its has little to do with ectos, but enough that its understandable why people are upset. Armbrace price does not and never has correlated with ectos...it is practically set, whether ectos are 4k or 10k(lets hope they dont get back up there...though I would take advantage myself.)
There is no set price for Ambraces, in ecto. So, if there was an unlimited money cap (going above 100k) the price of the Ambrace would jump up because ectos went up? Oh yes, perfect sense...

HawkofStorms

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There are no "set" prices for anything.

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optymind

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Folks, go to DOA and buy gems. A Gemset is approx 15k and you need 15 which is 225k. If ectos are 6k it costs 37.5 ectos to make an armbrace and then you can sell for 45-47. Big profit.

Reformed

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Best bet OP is to buy gems and then clear to the Spirit of Truth on your own. You'll save some cash if you are savvy and most importantly patient.

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Originally Posted by own age myname View Post
There is no set price for Ambraces, in ecto. So, if there was an unlimited money cap (going above 100k) the price of the Ambrace would jump up because ectos went up? Oh yes, perfect sense...
As said, no set prices for anything. With the effort some people put into getting them braces, they can charge what they want. Besides, if you looking at High End items, chances are, you can afford them. If not, you cant really complain.

dr love

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Originally Posted by optymind View Post
Folks, go to DOA and buy gems. A Gemset is approx 15k and you need 15 which is 225k. If ectos are 6k it costs 37.5 ectos to make an armbrace and then you can sell for 45-47. Big profit.
and another cat is out of the bag :'(

Eragon Zarroc

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meh, armbraces associate armbraces with a set ecto price 45-50 ecto. People don't associate them to be about 200k. therefore if ecto value goes up, armbrace value goes up. armbrace value is not independent of ecto value unfortunately for those wishing to buy tormy weapons. you would think they would be seperate, but if the people selling armbraces for 45-50e can get there asking price, there is nothing you can do. oh wells.

Sarevok Thordin

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I got my tormented weapon for the HoM, don't care for more, traders can get stuffed.

Schnellburg

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc View Post
meh, armbraces associate armbraces with a set ecto price 45-50 ecto. People don't associate them to be about 200k. therefore if ecto value goes up, armbrace value goes up. armbrace value is not independent of ecto value unfortunately for those wishing to buy tormy weapons. you would think they would be seperate, but if the people selling armbraces for 45-50e can get there asking price, there is nothing you can do. oh wells.
Agree. If I can sell my armbraces for 48-50e then hey good for me. I don't have to accept, let alone think about the lowball offers of 42-45e.

SpiritSpammer

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main thing is ppl are still paying for them. rant all you want as long as ppl are buying ppl will keep trying to get more and more out of it.

Zahr Dalsk

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Eh. High end, power trading, sell high as you can, etc.

I've always been kind of "ehhhh" on tormented weapons. On the one hand, the shield and staff look kind of nice, on the other hand, there are better-looking items out there, for a lot less effort.

optymind

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Folks just go buy gems for the cost of like 38e! Do not buy another armbrace again!

sthpaw

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well when UW wasnt nerf armbrace prices were going up anyway.
looks like theres alot of interested buyers and not enough suppliers.
before the CoP nerf i found it hard to sell armbraces for 43-45e people back then were asking for 30-40e.
but now i feel like me and other people who sell armbraces are in a good position to sell at a higher price at the end of the day its supply and demand look in DoA no one does DoA anymore except guild/alliance groups most pugs i've been to are too slow or fail.

Schnellburg

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Agree again. The supply of armbraces is down and the demand is on the rise. Wont be too long until 50e is on the lower end of selling them.

Ghost Dog

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This weekend I bought 3 armbraces for no more than 45e each.

Just name your price and good sellers will answer.

sthpaw

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and can u imagine if Shadow form actually does get nerfed??
100k + 80e or more even.
i swear ill be lolz hard and hitting DoA big time.

Schnellburg

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I'm already hitting DoA hard. Thankfully I have a good Guild and Alliance and we do DoA probably 3-4 runs a day. And if SF does get nerfed, I'll be sitting pretty with plenty of armbraces hopefully. Lol.

@Ghost Dog-Good for you, some sellers will sell for less if they don't care much for lots of profit, but someone will not budge and stay firm at 48e not a gold piece less.

QueenofDeath

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This is another one of my points proven about fantasy world economics and real world economics. When one thing goes up in a mmo/mmorpg everything can go up unlike in the real world where if a business wants to stay in business they would have to lower their prices or people couldn't afford to buy their products.

In a fantasy world nobody is going to go out of business raising their prices to rediculous greedy levels. Nobody can turn them into the better business bureau either.

In a fantasy world those that have will have more and those that have not will either get more or quit. It's pretty simple really.

There are no market controllers by anyone in this game some like to think so but they are delusional. Just like I get spammed that Travelers Gifts sell for 5k or less each and I always hawk and sell them for 7k each and I get it. I love these little tards who think they can control a fantasy game world just because they say so and because they say so that's the way it is. hahahahahahah I laugh in their face then put them on ignore usually as I always get the price I am asking if I am selling something eventually.

See in a fantasy ingame world there's a thing called impatience and there's more of those types in a fantasy game than in the real world. Plenty of gamers willing to pay those high prices and until there aren't then you players with nothing or little will just have to be envyous of us that have. )

So stop whinning about high prices you either pay them or you don't get the product. If you fall into the catagory of have not then I suggest you go out there and get it or quit. Nobody really cares if you don't have the funds or the time in your life to get anything in these games. Stop acting like it's your life for gods sakes or that the gamers in the game owe you something like cheap prices just because you think or say so.

AKB48

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Screw the armbraces, get a life.

toocooltang

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No. Even the SC take about 1.5-2hrs to get all 60gems.

Don't you think Schnellburg time is worth 25e/hour? I do.

Schnellburg

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1:30-2 hours to get 15 gems? Our guild has been sitting around 1 hour-1:15 to get 15 gems. And yeah roughly 25e an hour isn't to shabby not to mention its fun.

toocooltang

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Well I meant to get 15of each. I made the correction in my post. I was figured 45min-1hr for each run and 3 runs for 15 of each.

Tenebrae

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3 things :
-Lacking of Knowledge , Greed and Stupidity. Mix them and you get results like that when ecto price goes up or down.

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath View Post
Plenty of gamers willing to pay those high prices and until there aren't then you players with nothing or little will just have to be envyous of us that have. )

So stop whinning about high prices you either pay them or you don't get the product. If you fall into the catagory of have not then I suggest you go out there and get it or quit. Nobody really cares if you don't have the funds or the time in your life to get anything in these games. Stop acting like it's your life for gods sakes or that the gamers in the game owe you something like cheap prices just because you think or say so.
Woah you should really chill , that was rude and unnecessary .

Schnellburg

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Rude and unnecessary but true. Lots o people think that just because they don't have 100k in storage, they deserve something. I have worked for everything I have, and gotten lucky along the way a few times. If you play the game, you will have more then enough cash to buy w/e you want within reason.

Carboplatin

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armbraces used too cost much more then that. be happy.

Odinius

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I only need 3 more torm weps to fill the hall, bought about 5 ambraces for 48/49e at 4.3k
and bought 3 weps for 43e at 4.7k
Yes it's steep, but I'm a casual farmer that makes about 100k a week and I have fun saving up for a reward, makes me appreciate the result more.

SmokingHotImolation

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The fact that people keep making rant threads about how expensive armbraces are, just proves that there is a very high demand for this particular product. Therefore the price will not drop. I, myself, dont have to wait long to find buyers when selling at 50e each so yea..

Chocobo1

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This game has gotten far too expensive and serious. I'm going to go farm Hydras in the desert to remember the good old days :(.

AlsPals

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Far too expensive? HAHAHA, only if you have jumped from High-End to trades so large you have to have a 3rd party to complete them. Because of people who advocated threads like this, EVERYTHING is way cheaper than it probably should be. Armbraces used to be extravagant. Now its merely expensive. A couple farming builds and a quick run and in what....2-3 days you make 50e from an armbrace, and its far easier than using SF sins, and you dont have to dedicate as much time. Wheres GW2?

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath View Post
See in a fantasy ingame world there's a thing called impatience and there's more of those types in a fantasy game than in the real world.
There's a concept in utility theory called discounting that you should look in to. It's easy to manage the difference in impatience.

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Plenty of gamers willing to pay those high prices and until there aren't then you players with nothing or little will just have to be envyous of us that have. )
But you just said this about gold buyers in another thread:

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They can't or don't have any prestige in real life and they rely on some silly game content to feed that need. Lookit me I have X and I paid X for it and I'm a god and you're puny. lmao
Doesn't that second comment look a little autobiographical when paired with the first one?


Why are armbrace prices high at the moment? I'd guess that there's high demand for them to complete 1500+XX trades, given the boom in miniatures. The armbrace market isn't very liquid, and enough action on the demand side can push prices up in a hurry until the market clears. Figure that things will settle down once sellers start dumping braces as the boom in minis ends. In the meantime, there's good opportunity for the DoA farmers and people that don't mind sitting in district to buy gemsets.

Chocobo1

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlsPals View Post
Far too expensive? HAHAHA, only if you have jumped from High-End to trades so large you have to have a 3rd party to complete them. Because of people who advocated threads like this, EVERYTHING is way cheaper than it probably should be. Armbraces used to be extravagant. Now its merely expensive. A couple farming builds and a quick run and in what....2-3 days you make 50e from an armbrace, and its far easier than using SF sins, and you dont have to dedicate as much time. Wheres GW2?
Cept the whole not everyone has a guild/wants to join a guild that farms UWSC or DoA all day long, and doing it solo would take far far far longer than 2-3 days.

T_T; at farmers.

Gift3d

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people can get away with being greedy schmucks because there are enough idiots to cater to them.

guild wars economy works just like the real world economy --- only ass backwards.

bloodvayne

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People that farm high end things like this think that everyone else does/should have a buttload of money to buy what they're selling.

Thing is, the only way to really make that kind of money in a decent period of time is to farm high end things such as this. And then, only way to make money off of those is to sell them to other players.

Meaning, that people wanting the money to buy Armbraces... should go farm Armbraces? Then they don't really need the money for them anymore do they....

In the end, it's people farming a few hours a week making the same amount of money as people who farm several hours every day, and they're making this money OFF of those people.

Basically, GW economy sucks. Anet needs to make set prices on everything, and manage the rise/fall of these on their own based on supply/demand/rarity. Can't be that hard for them to check the in-game records and such to do something like that.
Here's hoping for GW2 :/

N E D M

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Quote:
Originally Posted by QueenofDeath View Post
This is another one of my points proven about fantasy world economics and real world economics. When one thing goes up in a mmo/mmorpg everything can go up unlike in the real world where if a business wants to stay in business they would have to lower their prices or people couldn't afford to buy their products.

In a fantasy world nobody is going to go out of business raising their prices to rediculous greedy levels. Nobody can turn them into the better business bureau either.

In a fantasy world those that have will have more and those that have not will either get more or quit. It's pretty simple really.

There are no market controllers by anyone in this game some like to think so but they are delusional. Just like I get spammed that Travelers Gifts sell for 5k or less each and I always hawk and sell them for 7k each and I get it. I love these little tards who think they can control a fantasy game world just because they say so and because they say so that's the way it is. hahahahahahah I laugh in their face then put them on ignore usually as I always get the price I am asking if I am selling something eventually.

See in a fantasy ingame world there's a thing called impatience and there's more of those types in a fantasy game than in the real world. Plenty of gamers willing to pay those high prices and until there aren't then you players with nothing or little will just have to be envyous of us that have. )

So stop whinning about high prices you either pay them or you don't get the product. If you fall into the catagory of have not then I suggest you go out there and get it or quit. Nobody really cares if you don't have the funds or the time in your life to get anything in these games. Stop acting like it's your life for gods sakes or that the gamers in the game owe you something like cheap prices just because you think or say so.
I want to know where you are selling gifts for 7k
I have never seen anyone attempt to get more than 5.5k for a gift, and never heard of anyone actually buying any at that rate...

how many hours does it take to sell 1 gift?

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jonnieboi05

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No. It doesn't make sense to me either. Nonetheless... Welcome to the world of capitalism.



~LeNa~

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its prolly just a conspiracy to increase ambrace prices.