Debilitated Farming Skills - ArenaNet's Benefit

sounds like most people in this thread want to drag everyone else down to their level.. my opinion anyway

sf is just another tool in the shed.. the way I see it, makes runs way faster than other builds.. it's not that you can't do them without sf, it's just the best method

anyone who runs sf without cons will tell you.. the health spike usually means your death- and with cons.. what's to complain about? the farmers will just move onto whatever gets the fastest results..

pugs have always sucked to high heaven.. I can't even remember the last time I was in a pug.. either h/h or go with friends- like with assassin I can h/h fendi's in hm record time.. all the nerf will do is make the price of the bds go up- not to mention voltaic spears

who do you think farms those things? and you with no skill buy them- prices go up not down when it takes farmers longer to get.. this nerf won't matter much- it will make things more expensive though which doesn't hurt the farmers at all.. it hurts you guys XD

Dedicated, hard-core farmers aren't going to leave GW because SF gets nerfed. Those players will work to come up with the next great thing. Lots of people had a knee-jerk reaction to the change in CoP - quite a bit of QQ went on until, about 10 minutes after the update, people figured out that there is a way to use the new CoP more effectively than the old version - they adapted! The same thing happened with the new UW stuff, the dedicated farmers adapted to the new situation and now mobway is being used by the former UWSC permas.

The whiney QQers who throw a tantrum and leave GW because A-Net is taking away their "toy" are more than welcome, as far as I'm concerned, to piss-off & good riddance.

Oh, how do I love these conspiracy theories.

I will tell you something, it seems Anet finally realised that when elite and top instances of the game (such as FOW, UW) are soloed by single character or build or couple of overpowered team builds which clear the area faster few times than 'balanced' and 'pug' groups, then something is deeply wrong.

These areas were introduced to give all players (mainly organised guilds for ease of organisation and communication, but not only) something to do once they beat the campaign. These areas were introduced with easy to understand principle - henchmen are out, because we want people to make human teams and we want to encourage full human teams since it's a team-based game - that was the game synopsis, be it pvp or pve - balanced team environment when TEAMS of people compete in different challenges and EVERY class can participate,since EVERY class skills and powers bring something useful to the team.

It was back at the times Guild Wars wasn't 'Single Player Online' yet and farming builds slowly started to pop in the surface. Though, there is much difference between theory and practise and it turned out they couldn't get the game balance right after GWF expansion ... it also turned out they paid not enough attention to pve content (for the bigger part they ignored it), so they had no experience balancing it. Thus, 'free vanquisher for everyone' in form of Ursan, super farm for everyone in form of SF sin and Ele builds all around the place and many other ...

Last but not least, if you think it's possible to eliminate farming builds by nerfing skills/making mobs stronger then no, it's impossible. They want it to stay in the game, but certainly not in a level which is detrimental to teamplay spirit. Actually, I blame them for not doing shit for ages. If they wanted to 'just' eliminate farming, then they would make it impossible to enter any instance solo. Instance can take 8 ppl? You need 8 ppl or can't enter, as easy as that.

But they didn't do that. Why so much drama now? So much drama because they went to the roots of this game and saw what's rotten? Perhaps you all farmers around there forgot what this game was all about. It's no longer something so unimportant and naive like griffon farming, ettin farming, hydra farming or troll farming. It's about soloing entire instances which were supposed to be hardest locations in the game with best rewards.

ArenaNet already lost it ages ago.

Besides, they wouldn't come right out and say it - or do the skill balance and store update at the same time.

This is exactly the type of trolling I'd anticipate out of a guild wars guru moderator.

Sometimes trolling is the only answer.

That's a pretty serious accusation and I wouldn't doubt if someone could press a lawsuit or something to that effect should it be true... but then you can't prove this can you? because the threads certainly don't prove it.

Tinfoil Hat time people, but really do you think that is there reasoning?

They could do a server run-back to restore all that were loss in the hacked event. Instead, they chose to block access to ALL accounts. Why would they block all accounts instead of doing a server run-back that could just easily fix the problem?

Some players don't even know how to contact support via the support website. This ban incident could also prevent these unfortunate players who don't know how to contact support via their website from accessing their accounts. Since I am a selfish person, this seemed to be the right thing to do in my opinion. It improves my gameplay. It shouldn't matter whether or not this incident is true or false. What matters is that the current players can enjoy the game to its fullest extent and that is to play with less lag, though there is still lag in the game.

A rollback to when? Did they know when the first breach occured? A rollback would have interfered with everyones game. How many QQ posts would we have had the next day about "OH MY GOD I JUST GOT A REQ 8 15^50 CRYSTALINE AND YOU ROLL BACK??!?!??!111"?

Do you even know if they CAN roll back account information? Is that within their capability? Would it roll back account information for everyone else? How many people would freak out about not being able to get into their account because they changed their password during that period?

They chose a wise route, and it had the desired result. Stop being ridiculous, and stop stating silly speculation as if it were fact.

Apologies people, I have to admit that this was a weak trolling QQ attempt to vent my frustration (all of which was slightly chemically aided) that we might lose Obsidian Flesh. It's so absurd it's hard to read what I wrote. Wasn't even good trolling. Would love to see this thread die to prevent any further embarrassment...

I look forward to any changes to the game, keeps things interesting. Even if they changed Assassin's Promise (favourite skill), I'd probably still play.

Right then. Gonna give this one a nice close.