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Odd.....is to say the least
Update - Tuesday, December 22, 2009
Aba
Odd.....is to say the least
Hyperventilate
A: I can't recall names of my storage characters on another accounts.
B: I have multiple Prophecies CD keys -- I can't tell who's who.
C: I'm not sure if I know where all said keys are, so I cannot prove that I own them.
I cannot say that I like this option. I vote making this optional.
B: I have multiple Prophecies CD keys -- I can't tell who's who.
C: I'm not sure if I know where all said keys are, so I cannot prove that I own them.
I cannot say that I like this option. I vote making this optional.
Zahr Dalsk
Well, I've been getting a bunch of 007 errors. Don't know if this is happening to everyone, or just me.
draxynnic
Odd, but I think I can see the logic - it means that somebody at least needs to do a modicum of research on the specific account they're trying to hack. Although it DOES have the effect of meaning that people who list their characters in a public place have possibly weakened their security (although hopefully said people don't also reveal the email attached to the account).
Divine Ashes
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Odd, but I think I can see the logic - it means that somebody at least needs to do a modicum of research on the specific account they're trying to hack. Although it DOES have the effect of meaning that people who list their characters in a public place have possibly weakened their security (although hopefully said people don't also reveal the email attached to the account).
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Siniminister
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Originally Posted by Hyperventilate
A: I can't recall names of my storage characters on another accounts.
B: I have multiple Prophecies CD keys -- I can't tell who's who. C: I'm not sure if I know where all said keys are, so I cannot prove that I own them. I cannot say that I like this option. I vote making this optional. |
Martin Alvito
This probably solves the NCMA problem. There's no point in hacking the NCMA if you're going to immediately crash into an additional security barrier that requires further brute force to crack, yet alert the prospective victim to the attempted theft.
It isn't a perfect solution (you can still end up having to fight Support to get your account back), but it should deter the thieves.
Kudos to ANet for finding a workaround that doesn't require NCSoft participation.
It isn't a perfect solution (you can still end up having to fight Support to get your account back), but it should deter the thieves.
Kudos to ANet for finding a workaround that doesn't require NCSoft participation.
kb2243
I just kicked out while doing a quest. Usually I get the "A new build of Guild Wars is available". That kind of blows.
go cubs
Haha, if this had been implemented a month ago id still have 800e....but, i can already see the many QQers of this with all the 2nd accs and stuff...lucky for me i got bored one day and wrote down every character on each of my accounts...
Obrien Xp
I'd say this is a great start. It should at least help to stem the amount of hacks while Anet works on more/better security implementations or the like.
Chocobo1
Decent idea, too bad my 9 year old bro who just started like 2 days ago can't remember the names of his characters. There all jumbled up names and stuff. Its alright though, I'll figure it out. Still like the step.
fenix
At least people won't lose their accounts via random brute forcing.
Garreth MacLeod
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Originally Posted by Hyperventilate
A: I can't recall names of my storage characters on another accounts.
B: I have multiple Prophecies CD keys -- I can't tell who's who. C: I'm not sure if I know where all said keys are, so I cannot prove that I own them. |
As for not knowing where the keys are....ouchies. Sorry, can't help with that one.
Fates
This has to be the most retarded way to enhance security one could think of. Is this really the best they could come up with?
Wow.
Wow.
shoyon456
First off, it is still Monday on PCT, which is what most gw activities go by :P
Secondly on the topic this is a GOOD thing they're doing in the sense that it is SOMETHING. However, its more of a blanket protection. Instead of "locking" chars/items its just another wall to get through. Basically only prevents automated randomish guessing, because all someone needs is to see you in-game to bypass this.
Secondly on the topic this is a GOOD thing they're doing in the sense that it is SOMETHING. However, its more of a blanket protection. Instead of "locking" chars/items its just another wall to get through. Basically only prevents automated randomish guessing, because all someone needs is to see you in-game to bypass this.
Arkantos
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This has to be the most retarded way to enhance security one could think of. Is this really the best they could come up with?
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shoyon456
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
I think it's pretty obvious this is a bandaid until they have a better solution. And uhh, yeah, this is actually a pretty damn good way to prevent getting your account stolen. Unless the person knows you, your account isn't going to be able to get bruteforced, and someone who gives you a trojan won't be able to access your account unless they met you on GW. So yeah, it's going to prevent plenty of stolen accounts. Is it the best solution? No. Is it a working solution and a good bandaid? Yes.
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Arkantos
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Originally Posted by shoyon456
This. Also puts things in perspective seeing how Anet asked GWG to take off ign's. Did they allude to this when they talked to you or was GWG in cahoots?
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DBMan
It'll act like a second password they'll have to figure out.
no hacker is going to go ingame and look for targets.
no hacker is going to go ingame and look for targets.
Lord Xivor
Does anyone else besides me have any trouble using Texmod + Cartography Made Easy now? Its not working for me at all since this update...
Lycan Nibbler
WHY update this IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AT?? In fact of TWO ATs (Snowball and GvG). It cost my guild a win (we were 9-0 up and on the way for the 10th pressie when it err7d the complete guild - which cost us a top 16) - Many guilds got a no result from that round and many FF the next round due to slow uploads etc.
Ofc, anyone who actually wants to do any trading within Ventaris needs to divulge IGN.
While it is another step - it is one of the poorest steps they could have taken.
God forbid they make the NCSoft site secure...Getting a response from the original email address before changing anything is NOT hard to do - its required in most of the forums I go to, so why is it so hard for NC Soft to do it?? They ARE a software company arent they????????
Problems I have with this "solution"
a) It is taking a long time (over a minute between sign on to the char screen) - maybe it is because I have a higher than average number of accounts, but it seems to be having to go away and match the input up and is about as fast as Xunlai was updating the results...
b) I personally hate having to try and remember and retype in long char names when swapping over accounts and moving stuff around guild/personal storage. At best my typing is poor - does that mean I need to make simple names for sign ins?
A question - why couldnt it have been "Account" names that anet already had most of us record in order to sign up for Xunlai?? These names could be ones that were not linked to the specific characters at all and as such, would be hidden more than a char name?
Oh and is there no limit on the number of tries?? So it "could" just be brute forced?
PS Yes Im pissed coz I cant remember the last 5 storage account names
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If I recall correctly, we weren't directly asked to do anything. Pretty sure a few weeks ago Gaile mentioned that telling people your ign was a security risk, so Inde removed the ign's in profiles. We knew nothing about this security question addition.
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While it is another step - it is one of the poorest steps they could have taken.
God forbid they make the NCSoft site secure...Getting a response from the original email address before changing anything is NOT hard to do - its required in most of the forums I go to, so why is it so hard for NC Soft to do it?? They ARE a software company arent they????????
Problems I have with this "solution"
a) It is taking a long time (over a minute between sign on to the char screen) - maybe it is because I have a higher than average number of accounts, but it seems to be having to go away and match the input up and is about as fast as Xunlai was updating the results...
b) I personally hate having to try and remember and retype in long char names when swapping over accounts and moving stuff around guild/personal storage. At best my typing is poor - does that mean I need to make simple names for sign ins?
A question - why couldnt it have been "Account" names that anet already had most of us record in order to sign up for Xunlai?? These names could be ones that were not linked to the specific characters at all and as such, would be hidden more than a char name?
Oh and is there no limit on the number of tries?? So it "could" just be brute forced?
PS Yes Im pissed coz I cant remember the last 5 storage account names
Professor K
Everyone's account security is more important than your AT.
Lycan Nibbler
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Everyone's account security is more important than your AT.
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MisterB
The increased security feature is welcome, and it's a neat idea.
/P and P/ Veil farm nerfed.
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Update - Monday, December 21, 2009 UI * Log-in screen now contains additional security to protect players from unauthorized access. Bug Fixes * Removed collision from the Adept of Whispers and Whispers Informant in Stygian Vale [sic]. * Fixed a bug that caused the Zaishen Menagerie UI to improperly label White Jingle Moa. Guild Wars Wiki notes * A security question is now required to login. * The Guild Wars servers were temporarily shut down before this update. Some clients that were open disconnected the user from the server and showed error 58 while trying to reconnect. |
Enko
couldn't they just do some of the same security questions like banks ask?
The Drunkard
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
I think it's pretty obvious this is a bandaid until they have a better solution. And uhh, yeah, this is actually a pretty damn good way to prevent getting your account stolen. Unless the person knows you, your account isn't going to be able to get bruteforced, and someone who gives you a trojan won't be able to access your account unless they met you on GW. So yeah, it's going to prevent plenty of stolen accounts. Is it the best solution? No. Is it a working solution and a good bandaid? Yes.
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Originally Posted by MisterB
/P and P/ Veil farm nerfed.
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MisterB
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Originally Posted by Lord Xivor
Does anyone else besides me have any trouble using Texmod + Cartography Made Easy now? Its not working for me at all since this update...
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I'd really like to see separate check boxes for account name and the security question, but I suppose the command line switches can do that in the meantime.
The character name entered seems to auto-select that character after log in.
Neo Nugget
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
I think it's pretty obvious this is a bandaid until they have a better solution. And uhh, yeah, this is actually a pretty damn good way to prevent getting your account stolen. Unless the person knows you, your account isn't going to be able to get bruteforced, and someone who gives you a trojan won't be able to access your account unless they met you on GW. So yeah, it's going to prevent plenty of stolen accounts. Is it the best solution? No. Is it a working solution and a good bandaid? Yes.
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Good update imo.
Gift3d
I have tons of mule accounts and there's no way i remember the names of the chars on each acount. What the shit, anet, what the shit.
do you know how long it's gonna take me to match each account email with the ign in my mule guild roster? this is just mean.
i guess what we can all do for future references is just make character names with names matching the email to make it easier. still, though.... what is this.
do you know how long it's gonna take me to match each account email with the ign in my mule guild roster? this is just mean.
i guess what we can all do for future references is just make character names with names matching the email to make it easier. still, though.... what is this.
Arduin
Thanks for implementing this Anet! Any additional security is welcomed very, very much.
Arkantos
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Tarkin
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Originally Posted by Hyperventilate
A: I can't recall names of my storage characters on another accounts.
B: I have multiple Prophecies CD keys -- I can't tell who's who. C: I'm not sure if I know where all said keys are, so I cannot prove that I own them. I cannot say that I like this option. I vote making this optional. |
Chaosx1
I really wouldn't mind if they gave you a heads up that this update was going to happen, therefore people would know up ahead to remember their character names.
~At this point its seriously a joke. I technically just lost all my mule accounts that i write random "jasdfjasfsaio" names to store items on. As for CD keys? Gee...this game has been alive for almost 5 years...i doubt everyone still has them.
Good joke anet...fail +1.
~At this point its seriously a joke. I technically just lost all my mule accounts that i write random "jasdfjasfsaio" names to store items on. As for CD keys? Gee...this game has been alive for almost 5 years...i doubt everyone still has them.
Good joke anet...fail +1.
Lord Dagon
Man, it's a good thing like yesterday i got really bored w/ farming and i was having trouble reembering all my ig info and i wrote all my charr names, email and such.. if I has'nt i would be sitting here Q.Qing right now. Now i do beleive this is a step in the right direction, a bandaid like someoen said earlier. But im wondering how ppl that are scarter brained like me and have to read your account info off of a index card everytime or ppl that have been away from the game a long time are supposed to deal w/ this? If i came back thinking wow i havent played this in so long i cant wait! oh wait i guess i have to b/c its been 3 yrs since i played and im locked out of my account. i'm just glad it wasnt me. Because i know we are going to get alot of people that wayy back in the day made like 1,000e and want to come back on feeling like a god and cant even get in their account b/c they dont know what their ig names were back then. All im saying is its a great step foreward but its going to leave alot of people ticked and will cause alot of remenisceing about what you were doing and into the last 4~5years xD
Aba
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Ugh.....k...
Yes another thing Anet cant do right...
`Ànets mascot needs to be Rodney dangerfield`
Never any respect...
Reflect
since thay can do this..they can add an IQ test too
Only when your IQ is more than 140 u can enter..then SF nerf wont be needed..all the guys using it wont be able to log
Only when your IQ is more than 140 u can enter..then SF nerf wont be needed..all the guys using it wont be able to log
Aba
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The amount of QQ`n, Complaing and just plain crying over every step that Anet makes has become Pathetic.
Seems like most guildwars players have turned into paris hilton...or other rich little ungrateful snots
Everyone wants everything , But refuse to work for it, so they start relentless complaining until they get what they want.
After of which they do not applaude or say thank you but instead complain and complain some more...
Bluefeather
I hope new accounts will not be affected.
Abedeus
What happens when I don't remember if my character is Abedeus del Hueco, Abedeus del Hueso or Abedeus del Huevo (not likely, but still)? It's either Abedeus of the Hole or Abedeus of the Bone. Are there any limits on how many times we can try the security password?
I'm talking about my second account, because obviously I remember some of the 9 characters I have on my primary account, like my almost 3,5 year old Ranger and 2-3 year old PvP Monk.
I'm talking about my second account, because obviously I remember some of the 9 characters I have on my primary account, like my almost 3,5 year old Ranger and 2-3 year old PvP Monk.
Zahr Dalsk
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They ARE a software company arent they????????
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