Add a Costume maker in Pre searing

Aussie Boy

Aussie Boy

Alcoholic

Join Date: Mar 2007

Australia

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I suggest they add one to Pre it won't give us any armor advantage so I can't see why they shouldn't.
There are so many perma pre toons in pre these days and we did pay money for these items and will do when they add more costumes in the future.
Also add a hat maker while there at it would be nice.
Thoughts?

Baku_The_Killer

Baku_The_Killer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Spain

My heros are my own guild.

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I think it's okey, but still having problems with NCSoft to get my Grenth Costume... /agreed, for those Pre-Searing Characters that want to look cool

dr love

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

P/Me

would be nice if they could
it's just an npc right? can't be that hard

Andemius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Vanguard's Last Stand [Hero]

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would be a nice idea, but i think they're sorting out bigger things atm

/agree

drunk n angry

drunk n angry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

in a quiet little town that i love.

Ancient Dragoons [AGED]

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i disagree in my opinion i think it would ruin the pre experience. you dont want to see people running around in pre with "elite" looking anything. its pre for pete's sake.

/notsigned.


and for the record i own both costumes.

REDdelver

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Girls Pee Pee When They See [ME]

N/Mo

It obviously has no effect on the game, so there really shouldn't be a problem. Pre is about enjoying the scenery game wise and enjoying its own lil niche community, which consists pretty much of hanging out in town

If people want to wear costumes...I'd support it.

/signed

P.S. If you want to use there shouldnt be anything "elite" in pre thought process..... Then lvl 20 shouldnt be available and with it obviously the title.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

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/signed hats ftw

Malla13

Malla13

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2009

Angeldustrial Bonsai Muffins [FFS]

N/Me

/signed
My ranger girl would love pretty things to wear around town.

Welthas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Pennsylvania

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/signed

won't happen but it would be amazing.

x sithis x

x sithis x

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

[Pro]

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i would rather have them spend time on skill update then lettin pre have pointless costumes that are more common then monks with obi

rick1027

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

not that i care if they do but ill /sign

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

It should just be a matter of putting one NPC in Ascalon City. That'll only take a few mins. Given that there are so many people with perma pre characters, it'd be a nice addition.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

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/sign i just love pre sear, and its now a part of the game, cuz of the title and charr items

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Festivals do not take place in pre-Searing, and thus I see no reason to add NPCs for handing out festival gear.

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

Pre is meant for players to start off and then LEAVE to the real game. Not that I wouldn't mind this, though, but I am familiar with some of anets intentions for some things. This idea would go against one of them.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Owik Gall View Post
This idea would go against one of them.
As would a title rewarding people for staying in pre...


no reason not to just copying and pasting of existing code...

/signed I suppose...

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

/notsigned

Let's leave pre as a tutorial instead of trying to make it the actual game.

Chop it Off

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Saviors of [EviL]

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I for one do not understand why this hasnt happened yet, and would love to see it happen.

/signed.

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

/signed! make it so.

Dark Morelia

Dark Morelia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

N/

/signed.
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I Am The Fear

I Am The Fear

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2010

Guess Why My Chaos Gloves Are [WiTe]

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/signed I always thought they should have one

epervier

epervier

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

Jersey

Oath of Fire [Oath]

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I'm tired that all of the male rangers look nearly exactly the same! lets allow some personallity and uniqueness for our characters.
/signed!

edit: The only way this idea would work is that Ascalon City in post-searing ALSO got this update. Otherwise, when a character sears, they'll no longer be able to change costumes until they reach Lion's Arch. And that would piss me off.
Thanks, Mike.

Erasculio

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

At his wiki page, John Stumme mentioned he would like to see a poll about whether people would mind having a costume maker in Pre-Searing. Since he's the main GW1 designer, I think it's a good idea to make such poll. The admins will add the poll itself here sortly, but in the mean time the options would be:

1) I would like costume makers in Pre-Searing.

2) I wouldn't use them, but I wouldn't be bothered if they were added.

3) I think ArenaNet should not add costume makers to Pre-Searing.

Erasculio

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Sure why not, i dont see any problem on adding em for pre also? would be cool lil add for pre i guess with all the other things theyve added recently

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

since JOHN asked ---I added the poll (crude answers, but hey its my first poll )
and yeah I would like to see a costume maker in pre since they never plan to fix my necro's clipping armor issues!

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by drunk n angry View Post
i disagree in my opinion i think it would ruin the pre experience. you dont want to see people running around in pre with "elite" looking anything. its pre for pete's sake.
People already have black dye, rare mini-pets, max pre-order weapons and max titles in pre. Adding in a costume crafter (along with a festival hat NPC) would certainly not take away from the "pre experience".

/signed

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

/signed

it doesnt hurt the game play in pre. would be nice to be able to get costumes so i can stop seeing clones of myself walking around. and what makes you think they didnt have parties in pre? from what i can remember it was kinda peaceful and a happy time then until the searing.

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Festivals do not take place in pre-Searing, and thus I see no reason to add NPCs for handing out festival gear.
Event drops exist in pre searing. I don't see why costumes shouldn't

/signed

Xslash

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

/signed.

i want to know about the ppl who voted no.

would you vote no to all costumes anywhere?

have you purchased any costumes?

because it seems like, if you pay $10 or w/e for a costume, u'd want to use it as often as possible.

my assumption is people that don't have the costume and don't like other people having stuff they don't have are the ppl that vote no.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Many People like to roleplay in Pre.

Costumes and masks help people disguise, and that helps roleplaying.

And the only costume that is has some... 'lore incosistencies' is the White Mantle one, although the White Mantle was established before the Searing, it's not likely they ever got to Ascalon, but seeing as collectors have Krytan armor, they perfectly could.

The rest are rather generic.

The gods where known before the Searing.
The mad king, undead and liches (like Palawa Joko) existed before the searing.
Weddings could have perfectly being a common thing in Ascalon for a long time.
As for the shinning blade costume, the emblem is quite subtle, disguised as a dagger-brooch.


The only reasons I can think against it are not lore reasons.
Only motivations from envy against those that have them, a tantrum against ANet for not doing the things they want, being a retrogade that is against any and all changes that differ from the GW of 2005 (the kind of guy that was against Nicholas Sandford and the new drops from charr), or just plain malice.

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Festivals do not take place in pre-Searing, and thus I see no reason to add NPCs for handing out festival gear.
This.
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Erasculio

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
since JOHN asked ---I added the poll (crude answers, but hey its my first poll )
Yep, and the poll pretty much missed the point, too. John was specifically asking if people would be bothered by having a costume maker in Pre-Searing, not if they simply wouldn't use one. The current poll has no difference between someone who would not use a costume maker and someone who would burn his copy of GW if a costume maker were added to Pre-Searing.

Erasculio

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

sorry....but I do believe that people have been replying with information about whether they believe it would bother them as well.

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

/not signed

Looking like a newb is one of the things I enjoy the most in Pre. I don't want my precious to become a fashion parade.

Lasai

Lasai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xslash View Post
/signed.

i want to know about the ppl who voted no.

would you vote no to all costumes anywhere?

have you purchased any costumes?

because it seems like, if you pay $10 or w/e for a costume, u'd want to use it as often as possible.

my assumption is people that don't have the costume and don't like other people having stuff they don't have are the ppl that vote no.
I have every costume they have offered. I voted no. Pre is a closed world and should remain so.. elements of the white mantle, shining blade, mad king's court and such don't really fit into the past.

However, the rage from those who just have to have 6-7 identical toons from multiple accts standing around would be amusing.

Shadow Sentinel

Shadow Sentinel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2011

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+1 to the previous post.

I have all the costumes, and I don't want to see them in Pre. Ironically, before I had the costumes, I would have liked to see them around.

Pre is getting Postified enough (too much) as it is. And as someone else mentioned, there aren't costume or hat guys in Post-searing Ascalon either.

Besides, how could I show off my '250K armor' in Pre if it's covered up?

Ascended Furling

Ascended Furling

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2010

Netherlands

Shiro Utsuri[Koi]

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No reason why costumes can not be in pre. I would like it verry much.

Also i want a costume maker in the guildhall and a kick hengemen from guild hall option.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasai View Post
Pre is a closed world and should remain so.. elements of the white mantle, shining blade, mad king's court and such don't really fit into the past.
We have costume makers in Shing Jea and Kamadan. No white mantle there.... so who cares. And there are all kinds of mini's that are not walking around in pre. Do they have to be removed to because some mini's dont fit in the past?

Ugh

Ugh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ascended Furling View Post
We have costume makers in Shing Jea and Kamadan. No white mantle there.... so who cares.
They actually existed then, though, and people can travel to those areas from areas where they did exist and bring their crap with them. People rompin' around with White Mantle gear before White Mantle existed would be weird; people rompin' around with White Mantle gear in an area where there are no White Mantle is not really weird.

I don't actually care about lore or see it as a good basis for most decisions, but, if lore matters to the folks in charge, your argument is invalid.

Quote:
And there are all kinds of mini's that are not walking around in pre. Do they have to be removed to because some mini's dont fit in the past?
Minis can't be removed and presents can't be selectively distributed, so that is invalid as well. Actually, this whole comparison is invalid for obvious reasons.

Personally, I'd prefer not to have costumes because it would ruin the lovely simplicity of pre much more than minis and tonics have, and it just make it look more like post. I already hate seeing wings and flaming heads in post, so it would be even worse seeing them in pre. Festival hats wouldn't be as bad, but meh.

Also, making a bunch of dyeable things suddenly available would seriously inflate the dye economy, but whether that's a good or bad thing is subjective, I suppose.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Note that White Mantle formed at 1070, the same year when the Searing Happened.
It was not 'before they existed' it was 'around the time they were formed'.

The last Guild War ended, and then the Charr attacked Orr, Kryta and Ascalon.

And then the Searing and the Rise of the White Mantle happened, but I couldn't find which one of these two happened first.
One year later, in 1071, the Great Cataclysm happened in Arah, and in 1072 is when happens the Great Northern Wall mission.
By the time of the Great Cataclysm, the White Mantle were already in power.

Ugh

Ugh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
Note that White Mantle formed at 1070, the same year when the Searing Happened.
It was not 'before they existed' it was 'around the time they were formed'.

The last Guild War ended, and then the Charr attacked Orr, Kryta and Ascalon.

And then the Searing and the Rise of the White Mantle happened, but I couldn't find which one of these two happened first.
One year later, in 1071, the Great Cataclysm happened in Arah, and in 1072 is when happens the Great Northern Wall mission.
By the time of the Great Cataclysm, the White Mantle were already in power.
I based that part of my post on some wiki entry:

Quote:
White Mantle banners adorn the Citadel despite only being formed during or shortly after the searing
I assume everyone that edits the wiki knows more than I do and that the wiki is always correct all the time forever. So, since some random person thought the Mantle banners were out of place in the arena, I concluded that people would also find Mantle costumes out of place in the city.

Anyways, I insist that lore isn't a good basis for a decision such as this; if most people want costumes, they shouldn't be withheld if they don't fit, but costumes also shouldn't be added just because they can if they do fit. Lore is irrelevant. My problem's with Ascalon turning into an flaming, winged craphole like Kamadan or GToB. I'm some or most people would like or not mind that, though.