Is ANet insane?
Why do you continue to insist on releasing skill updates ONE WEEK before monthly tournaments?
That's the absolute worst time possible to release them ever, it's horrible.
Can't you schedule to release them directly AFTER monthlies so as to give teams sufficient time to practice and work out new builds/skills/metas?
I don't understand the thought process at all, and I think it's completely stupid.
GvG Skill Balance, Next Skill Updates, Wintersday Re-Run
I Angra I
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Brb contacting the right people for inquiring about making a cancelbot to work against ruptbots.
Xenex Xclame
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Originally Posted by I Angra I
Can't you schedule to release them directly AFTER monthlies so as to give teams sufficient time to practice and work out new builds/skills/metas?
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We Dont Accept
funny gear doesnt need to abuse broken meta to win gvg hah i rlly dont even think they ran r/a meta that rawr ran 2get what their 14th gold trim or somethin
reaper with no name
You know, it really is amazing how every time my patience and frustration is nearing the brink, you somehow manage to do something right and give me more faith. Bravo.
ousbique
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Originally Posted by I Angra I
Is ANet insane?
Why do you continue to insist on releasing skill updates ONE WEEK before monthly tournaments? That's the absolute worst time possible to release them ever, it's horrible. Can't you schedule to release them directly AFTER monthlies so as to give teams sufficient time to practice and work out new builds/skills/metas? I don't understand the thought process at all, and I think it's completely stupid. |
?1 week is enough for a good guild to search a new build, and bad "wiki" guilds... baaah, it's not a loss if they don't care about testing & are only good with one wonder build.
Many people forgot that PvP is also about creating templates
I Angra I
I fail to understand the logic of wanting a mAT to be completely haphazard and messy with nobody knowing what to run or how to run it, rather than giving them time to work out new builds in a theoretically more balanced meta (if the skill update does its job). It's like implementing new rules into football or basketball right before the playoffs rather than at the beginning of the season.
Also not everyone plays every single day. A week to some people is maybe 1 day, or even 1 hour max of playing/practicing.
Also not everyone plays every single day. A week to some people is maybe 1 day, or even 1 hour max of playing/practicing.
fowlero
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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame
One week is enough time to figure out the new stuff, it sounds like you want more time to find whichever broken thing Anet missed.
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It's not exactly a big amount of time, and of course people want to find the broken thing anet missed. People do aim to win monthlies still.
jonnieboi05
Neat. Another Wintersday. The next round of Eggnog is on me, boys! xD
I Angra I
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funny gear doesnt need to abuse broken meta to win gvg hah i rlly dont even think they ran r/a meta that rawr ran 2get what their 14th gold trim or somethin
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I don't get why you think that skill update = worse meta?
Apok Omen
If you are not good enough to make a decent build within an hour of a skill update, then you have no business in a tournament.
Hard to imagine a member of GeAr bitching about not having enough time to train when they themselves have been in countless mATs. And if the complaining is about not having enough time to find the right build, then I feel sorry for you.
I shouldn't be one to talk, though.
I'm glad Anet is taking this step. Also, that they are prioritizing GvG in their updates. Even moreso that they are telling us which skills will be updated before the actual update becomes live. I, for one, would not like to see another mAT with the same builds I have been seeing the past 4 months (midline spike, PR/MoI/GA, IoP split, ele split, etc.)
Hard to imagine a member of GeAr bitching about not having enough time to train when they themselves have been in countless mATs. And if the complaining is about not having enough time to find the right build, then I feel sorry for you.
I shouldn't be one to talk, though.
I'm glad Anet is taking this step. Also, that they are prioritizing GvG in their updates. Even moreso that they are telling us which skills will be updated before the actual update becomes live. I, for one, would not like to see another mAT with the same builds I have been seeing the past 4 months (midline spike, PR/MoI/GA, IoP split, ele split, etc.)
Mustache Mayhem
ah cool.. so the bear is back
shoyon456
Sooooo... three months late and now we hear that SF won't be nerfed for another month (4 months late)? And we still don't know anything about the skill update (on the PvE side) after we were supposedly going to be kept in on the loop?
If you can say with 100% certainty that you won't roll this back even later than the already far surpassed "target" then I'll still accept it. And yes it'll be Feb. 25th if they fufill it, cause that's just the way Anet rolls.
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The fact that they're rolling out the skill updates in "stages" over the potential course of a month or more makes me think they're trying to make it seem as though they are now putting out consistent skill updates, in essence "stretching" their work out.
If you can say with 100% certainty that you won't roll this back even later than the already far surpassed "target" then I'll still accept it. And yes it'll be Feb. 25th if they fufill it, cause that's just the way Anet rolls.
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The fact that they're rolling out the skill updates in "stages" over the potential course of a month or more makes me think they're trying to make it seem as though they are now putting out consistent skill updates, in essence "stretching" their work out.
Giga_Gaia
I find it very hard to believe that between working on Canthan new years and the skill update both in Feb, that Anet will actually be able to do both in one month. Yes, I know events are supposed to be automated but clearly we've been shown that they're not working as intended.
But at least there's only one more week before (hopefully) some decent PvP stuff happens. With 3 (or was it 4?) months to work on it, you would think that it's going to be an awesome update...
But at least there's only one more week before (hopefully) some decent PvP stuff happens. With 3 (or was it 4?) months to work on it, you would think that it's going to be an awesome update...
optymind
Mid feb Regina will post this: We were busy working on Canthan New Year and Wintersday and the update is delayed till March.
DreamWind
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I don't know what you're on about because I can't really understand your typing, but it's not about finding ways to abuse broken skills. It's about finding what works and what doesn't in a theoretically more balanced game, if the skill update is actually successful. Obviously people are going to want time to work out the best ways to win. You think that's abusing broken skills? Okay sure.
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crusanderth
1: sorry im no english
Wintersday???????? why?
mmmmmm sorry i dont believe when anet say, thinking on ppl or hat.
when u can see jk titles, like zaishen, 3 years to max opening 10 chest daily is a Joke. and they nerf XTH for unknown reason and doing nothing to benefit ppl.
or drop rate reduction when ppl find best way to speed clear
anet forget one thing, ppl THINK
nvm is you game.
Wintersday???????? why?
mmmmmm sorry i dont believe when anet say, thinking on ppl or hat.
when u can see jk titles, like zaishen, 3 years to max opening 10 chest daily is a Joke. and they nerf XTH for unknown reason and doing nothing to benefit ppl.
or drop rate reduction when ppl find best way to speed clear
anet forget one thing, ppl THINK
nvm is you game.
FengShuiDove
Can somebody post the potential skill updates from Regina's wiki? I get a "Network Update" or maintenance page.
If she just posted what she posted here, that's fine, but I got the impression she posted some potential updates or ideas beyond just the skeletal framework of GvG this week, PvE later.
If she just posted what she posted here, that's fine, but I got the impression she posted some potential updates or ideas beyond just the skeletal framework of GvG this week, PvE later.
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]HM[ Sabre Wolf
WAIT...
Winter's Day Finale will be on Super Bowl Sunday ?!?!?!?!
lame...
Winter's Day Finale will be on Super Bowl Sunday ?!?!?!?!
lame...
Martin Alvito
I'm confused.
Metas generally take longer than a week to evolve. This seems like a very compressed schedule for players to adapt to. Why would you let the format sit for months, then introduce changes right before a mAT?
Metas generally take longer than a week to evolve. This seems like a very compressed schedule for players to adapt to. Why would you let the format sit for months, then introduce changes right before a mAT?
Lord Dagon
yay finally.. i can max my vanguard rank that ive been regretting not doing sinc the end of wintersday 
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Then once i do that(after the hrs i do grinding) i can stack up on more party points and fun items for titles yay im happy.. i get to wrok on titles a second time ;D
Then once i do that(after the hrs i do grinding) i can stack up on more party points and fun items for titles
Skyy High
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Wintersday???????? why?
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To people upset that you're only getting a week to play with the changes: that's why they're releasing the notes this week. It's either this, or you get to play in another stale mAT. Personally I'd think any change-up would be favorable at this point, at least it'd be a little interesting.
FyrFytr998
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Why? So the QQing can begin anew on Guru about how they hate what was done in the update? Guru needs a breather, lol.
Also PvX will be flooded with theory test builds more than ever, lol. Will probably crash them!
FengShuiDove
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WAIT...
Winter's Day Finale will be on Super Bowl Sunday ?!?!?!?! lame... |
Xenex Xclame
Whats Super Bowl?
We Dont Accept
lol angra im saying that gear is honorable me once being in it should know besides i know that you should atleast practice the build your going to run in mat which is why i am against anets decision personnaly in updating skills before the mat
Lord Dagon
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Whats Super Bowl?
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Martin Alvito
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its an american football tournament where alot of fat ppl and non-fat ppl gather around their tv's w/junk food to watch super-amazing commercials xD
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Snow Bunny
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I'm confused.
Metas generally take longer than a week to evolve. This seems like a very compressed schedule for players to adapt to. Why would you let the format sit for months, then introduce changes right before a mAT? |
prism2525
I think it's a nice idea to have it done short notice before the MAT. That way people will have less time to find the best broken build and therefore it lessens the likelihood of there being duplicate builds.
Of course many ppl will still sense which skills are better but it may not give them enough time to finalize on the holy build.
I haven't played PvP for a long time and personally I think I'm going to wait till GW2 to give it a shot cos right now I'm just a rank 3 and with all the elitism out there I'd rather not stick my head out.
Anyways, just my 0.02c
Of course many ppl will still sense which skills are better but it may not give them enough time to finalize on the holy build.
I haven't played PvP for a long time and personally I think I'm going to wait till GW2 to give it a shot cos right now I'm just a rank 3 and with all the elitism out there I'd rather not stick my head out.
Anyways, just my 0.02c
MagmaRed
"Please note that these preliminary update notes are subject to change, and my not reflect the final changes that you will see next week."
I admit I only read page one, but I was suprised nobody else commented on that part. This tells me that they aren't telling us anything.
I admit I only read page one, but I was suprised nobody else commented on that part. This tells me that they aren't telling us anything.
]HM[ Sabre Wolf
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Whats Super Bowl?
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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
AFKFTW it would appear. Isn't that how it goes anyway?
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Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
"Please note that these preliminary update notes are subject to change, and my not reflect the final changes that you will see next week."
I admit I only read page one, but I was suprised nobody else commented on that part. This tells me that they aren't telling us anything. |
Introverted Dimensions
Not that I have a problem with it or anything but how come we're re-running Wintersday?
And hurray for skill updates almost being here!
And hurray for skill updates almost being here!
chowmein69
yay another week to farm Snowball dominance + snowball at's !
Div
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Originally Posted by I Angra I
Why do you continue to insist on releasing skill updates ONE WEEK before monthly tournaments?
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Originally Posted by Regina
The next skill updates will be rolled out in stages. First, GvG skills will be updated, and this will come next week, before the Monthly Tournament. We will release preliminary patch notes with details of those GvG changes later this week
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Demigod Heracles
Mat should be interesting, I understand there's going to be quite the shakeup. An explosively different meta will be a breath of fresh air!
lemming
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
I'm confused.
Metas generally take longer than a week to evolve. This seems like a very compressed schedule for players to adapt to. Why would you let the format sit for months, then introduce changes right before a mAT? |
We Dont Accept
QQ cant wait to see the wrong skills buffed and the good 1s nerfed QQ
Greedy Gus
Yeah, at least most gvgers I know would rather have a skill update than to let the mAT schedule act as a delay excuse. To be honest the worse news is that the laggy pve event is going to be reactivated during the monthly for the second month in a row.