GvG Skill Balance, Next Skill Updates, Wintersday Re-Run

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Originally Posted by lemming View Post
A fresh, steaming pile of crap is better than a five-month-old, rubbery, dry piece of crap.
Point taken.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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Originally Posted by lemming View Post
A fresh, steaming pile of crap is better than a five-month-old, rubbery, dry piece of crap.
Five-month-old, rubbery, dry pieces of crap are far easier to clean up though...

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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So what's up with the change in 'GvG skills'? Is the Guild Lord getting new skills? Will there be a PvP/PvE/GvG skill split? Or has Anet finally admitted they balance PvP through GvG?

We Dont Accept

We Dont Accept

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2008

In your Bed!

Mo/Me

they wont add skills to guild lord they will probly nerf everything that works and hope they can shift a new meta's from their mistakes

kedde

kedde

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]

Mo/A

Its kinda obvious what she meant as in skills affecting gvg heavily and skills generally in consensus to be straining pvp.
Although I agree it was very poor wording.

But looking forward to the changes regardless.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

At least they're actually skill updating. for the sake of all that is hole I don't plan on bitching about whatever they do as long as they do it.

Frankly, everyone complaining about when the update is happening and is silly. God forbid you actually have to go into PvP playing it like it was originally intended (without a solid meta).

Because I guess it takes less effortl to run cookie cutter builds then it does to actually make your own. lol.

DreamWind

DreamWind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Mo

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Originally Posted by Greedy Gus View Post
Yeah, at least most gvgers I know would rather have a skill update than to let the mAT schedule act as a delay excuse. To be honest the worse news is that the laggy pve event is going to be reactivated during the monthly for the second month in a row.
Rofl. I just now saw this. So not only has the skill balance been severely delayed, but they are releasing it directly before a mat, AND the mat will be during a lag fest. It would all be hilarious if it wasn't sad. How can anybody consider this good news? This game has went down the shitter so bad damn...

Revelations

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2009

Not Dead

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I don't understand what all the QQ about releasing the update so close to the MAT is all about. This will probably be the most interesting one in at least a year, and depending on update quality, maybe two.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Originally Posted by Revelations View Post
I don't understand what all the QQ about releasing the update so close to the MAT is all about. This will probably be the most interesting one in at least a year, and depending on update quality, maybe two.
And you forgot the ping.

This mAT DEFINATLY WILL BE the best one in years. We'll have random people playing random bars enjoying random pings.

I have a strong hunch some random guild is going to win.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

Certainly better then everything being predictable.

And why exactly will pings be bad? Something I missed?

Lord Dagon

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

*starts reminicng about good old super bowl commercials*
i still remeber the one w/ blockbuster(yes blockbuster before they got there own lil nerf w/ the creation of netflix) that 2 cats were trying to order or pre-barrow i guess? a movie fom the store right across the street. Well they were using a live mouse for their computer form the pet shop itself. xD good times... why cant they make good ol' fasion technology commercials like that anymore? xD

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel View Post
And why exactly will pings be bad? Something I missed?
Wintersday Re-run

We are planning on re-running Wintersday in the last week of January, starting on January 29th, with the finale on February 7th. There will be a festival hat NPC collecting Candy Cane Shards in exchange for this year's Wintersday hats, so if you miss the finale, you will still have a chance to collect the hat.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

WHY ON EARTH IS THE FULL EVENT BEING RUN AGAIN, YET CANTHAN STILL GETS A WEEKEND EVENT.

Yes, I meant the Caps as Im pissed at this continual crapping on Cantha. There is absolutely NO need to run a full event when only the finale (hat day) had issues. Try giving Cantha a week long event instead.

Junato

Junato

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Between J&K spending time at the spacebar

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A/D

I am assuming that the randomization of certain pings and things has to do with something about botting?

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

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Originally Posted by Lycan Nibbler View Post
WHY ON EARTH IS THE FULL EVENT BEING RUN AGAIN, YET CANTHAN STILL GETS A WEEKEND EVENT.

Yes, I meant the Caps as Im pissed at this continual crapping on Cantha. There is absolutely NO need to run a full event when only the finale (hat day) had issues. Try giving Cantha a week long event instead.
Buy Prophecies or Nightfall before next week

Tullzinski

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

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Originally Posted by ]HM[ Sabre Wolf View Post
WAIT...

Winter's Day Finale will be on Super Bowl Sunday ?!?!?!?!

lame...
AGREE!!!! They did this crap last year with the new year event!!!

ANET has something against the Superbowl!!!

Why not do this the week before during the Freaking Pro Bowl, Noone really gives a crap about that!!!

F^%$ Me. Son of a Bit%$

Junato

Junato

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Between J&K spending time at the spacebar

Insert here

A/D

Tullzinski the best thing to have is a tv right beside your monitor.

Tullzinski

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

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Originally Posted by Junato View Post
Tullzinski the best thing to have is a tv right beside your monitor.
My 50" Plasma is right next to my computer desk but damn really want to enjoy the game without any interuptions! Hard to enjoy all the stuff Sabre lists below while at my computer desk....

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Originally Posted by ]HM[ Sabre Wolf View Post
The National Footbal League Final... only one of the most worldwide televised sporting events of the year... and basicually an unwitten holiday in America. Filled with Pizza, Wings, Drinks, Chilli and BBQ... and you sit around the TV with all this food and drink for four and a half hours of one of the best sports in the world... a fairly good music concert... and some bezarre commercials that cost over a million bucks. FUN TIMES!
Did ANET leave the US or something? Non American Institution Loving Communist scumbags!!!!

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

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Originally Posted by Lycan Nibbler View Post
WHY ON EARTH IS THE FULL EVENT BEING RUN AGAIN, YET CANTHAN STILL GETS A WEEKEND EVENT.

Yes, I meant the Caps as Im pissed at this continual crapping on Cantha. There is absolutely NO need to run a full event when only the finale (hat day) had issues. Try giving Cantha a week long event instead.
It's for people to have a week to get CC shards, so they can buy a hat if they miss the finale. Also, for fun.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Go to a superbowl party with some friends instead of being a weirdo, cramped up in a room playing guild wars by yourself.

How is this even a debate?

Only applies if you're American of course.

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

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WTB 100+ skills change update so we have something to talk about between the 2-4 month absences of skill updates. Spin that dart board and throw away!!! Plz I beg of you Anet and the test crew.

En panis

En panis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Finland

The Last Revolution [LR]

W/E

This is amazing!

Snowball ats <3


See you there!


-The last revolution

Thamior Shamus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2009

Pshyco Ninjas [oGod]

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wahoo! skill update 2 days before mAT! idk if this means teams won't have enough practice time with new stuff, it'll be much better than seeing every team running a variety of 3 builds.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

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Originally Posted by Dzjudz View Post
Buy Prophecies or Nightfall before next week
I have them... more than you have I would bet, but I personally enjoy the boardwalk and events in Cantha better than Proph NF (no, I dont afk rings) - all I want is some equality here.. theres the long halloween festival and the long wintersday festivals for the other 2, yet Cantha get 2 weekends,

you would think with the gold sink that the rings are, that anet would welcome a week long event to draw some excess cash out of the system (even if its too little too late).

Im not against the re run per se, just the fact that the rerun will be longer than the whole years events in Cantha..

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Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
It's for people to have a week to get CC shards, so they can buy a hat if they miss the finale. Also, for fun.
Sorry, but if they miss the finale for a second time (it was only glitched for about 3 times on Jan 1st) and they used up their shards too then what do they expect? Its not like you cant get a stack pretty quickly doing the quests for an hour anyway on the day....

Wuhy

Wuhy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2008

R/

where are the notes already?-.-"

akio pwns

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

ny

[KISS]

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so wait wait wait... now im being told that the update will be pushed to feb? So should i expect some bad news or server meltdown or just expect the updates in march?

Diana Belevere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

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Originally Posted by akio pwns View Post
so wait wait wait... now im being told that the update will be pushed to feb? So should i expect some bad news or server meltdown or just expect the updates in march?
Nah. Expect them in April. They'll be part of the 5th year anniversary.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

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Originally Posted by Diana Belevere View Post
Nah. Expect them in April. They'll be part of the 5th year anniversary.
yoou will get one skill nerf instead of a 5th year pet

I Angra I

I Angra I

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Napa, CA

Inadequately Equipped [GeAr]

R/N

It's really sad how ANet conditions their users to be so happy when they half-heartedly decide to do an update. They keep disappointing their users so much that finally when they decide to put in as little effort as possible to release an update (at a really horrible time too, 2 days before a mAT) rather than being upset that ANet can't do things right, get updates out on time, and live up to their promise of frequent bi-monthly updates (a promise they've broken within the first 2 months) everyone is overjoyed at the fact that they're getting an update at all.

Ah the wonders of conditioning. Like starving rats but having them still love you and be loyal when you finally decide to give them food. ^_^

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

First Regina says that no way is the update not coming before the MAT and then only the GvG is going to get updated before the MAT?! I'm befuddled.

Orry

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2010

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Originally Posted by jazilla View Post
First Regina says that no way is the update not coming before the MAT and then only the GvG is going to get updated before the MAT?! I'm befuddled.
Well, I would assume that the people she works for told her that they wouldn't be updating the skills right before the mAT, she told the community, people were upset, she told her superiors their reaction, superiors decided to release what they had ready.

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

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Originally Posted by jazilla View Post
First Regina says that no way is the update not coming before the MAT and then only the GvG is going to get updated before the MAT?! I'm befuddled.
Kinda back asswards eh?

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN View Post
WTB 100+ skills change update so we have something to talk about between the 2-4 month absences of skill updates. Spin that dart board and throw away!!! Plz I beg of you Anet and the test crew.
^ What else could have taken them 5 months to do? It must be 100+ skills otherwise they're just lazy.

DreamWind

DreamWind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Mo

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Originally Posted by I Angra I View Post
It's really sad how ANet conditions their users to be so happy when they half-heartedly decide to do an update. They keep disappointing their users so much that finally when they decide to put in as little effort as possible to release an update (at a really horrible time too, 2 days before a mAT) rather than being upset that ANet can't do things right, get updates out on time, and live up to their promise of frequent bi-monthly updates (a promise they've broken within the first 2 months) everyone is overjoyed at the fact that they're getting an update at all.

Ah the wonders of conditioning. Like starving rats but having them still love you and be loyal when you finally decide to give them food. ^_^
This post is so solid, that it is one of the few times I am obligated to post QFT.

Giga_Gaia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Travelling around Tyria, Cantha, and Elona

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Angra I View Post
It's really sad how ANet conditions their users to be so happy when they half-heartedly decide to do an update. They keep disappointing their users so much that finally when they decide to put in as little effort as possible to release an update (at a really horrible time too, 2 days before a mAT) rather than being upset that ANet can't do things right, get updates out on time, and live up to their promise of frequent bi-monthly updates (a promise they've broken within the first 2 months) everyone is overjoyed at the fact that they're getting an update at all.

Ah the wonders of conditioning. Like starving rats but having them still love you and be loyal when you finally decide to give them food. ^_^
That's a nice way of looking at it. Very sad but also painfully true.

PuppyEater

PuppyEater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

I'm on the left...

Guilds? Where we're going we don't need guilds...

R/Rt

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Originally Posted by I Angra I View Post
Ah the wonders of conditioning. Like starving rats but having them still love you and be loyal when you finally decide to give them food. ^_^
More like jittery addicts than starving rats....

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

Shame,I don't recall ordering a large order of fail with an equally large side order of bitter disappointment.

The devs are apparently having too much fun with their GW2 test server parties.

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

I find it funny that it was posted here and not on wiki that it was a full fledged redo of Wintersday. The Wintersday post on GWWiki has no mention of this at all. What is up with all of the awful communication going on between the devs and the player base? No offense to guildwarsguru, but I don't think that more information on an event should be posted here rather than on the wiki by a dev. Yes a player could edit the wiki because of what was posted here by a Dev, but we shouldn't have to. Heck, the info should be posted in the log-in screen or on the official Guild Wars website.

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Actually yes you should have to put it on the wiki as a player yourself,the devs should do as little editing on the wiki as possible.By the devs editing it could be biased (heavily) or scrubbed.

(In my opinion) GWG is the biggest GW related community so I dont see why its wrong to post on here first.

Most of the player base will find out in one way or another ANYWAYS so more places they post (in whatver order) the better.

The devs may not have time to post the info on guru/gwo/guildwall/wiki/other wiki etcetc, you know they are busy working .....the LEAST you can do is take some work of their shoulder and edit the wiki yourself.

Yes it should be on the login and website, and im pretty sure it will be when its closer to the day,It also sound like you want them to post it on the site first before posting on guru,do you really want them to wait for the web develeport to get time to postit on the site, or do you want them to post the info as soon as they can,which may mean telling us in whichever way they can.

Now stop trying to find things to complain about and go edit the wiki.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame View Post
the devs should do as little editing on the wiki as possible.By the devs editing it could be biased (heavily) or scrubbed.
What are you talking about? An official wiki hosted by a company should have no posts by the employees creating their own game that the wiki describes? They allow their customers to use it as a privilege, but it is entirely their domain.