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New Xunlai Tournament House Information
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Warvic
Do people really care about the may Zkeys? That's just sad. I forgot about it 1 month after.
pablo24
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Originally Posted by Saph
Lol, when I announced this to friends, quite a few were surprised. I still never understood why they decided to revamp it in the first place. Unless this was all some elaborate scheme to get players to buy more accounts and then once multiple people have bought 5+ accounts for monthly zkeys, have it "break". Oh the conspiracies!!!! D:
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Black Metal
We can probably expect this level of commitment when GW2 comes out.
Everyone, remember this day well.
Everyone, remember this day well.
Windf0rce
Good news, and no I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not a fan of huge rewards being given at no effort whatsoever.
Double good news in that people will finally stop asking about the XTH, it was seriously annoying.
Double good news in that people will finally stop asking about the XTH, it was seriously annoying.
Being
Thanks for the info. 
I'm glad that it never got fixed, it was ridiculous to begin with.
I'm glad that it never got fixed, it was ridiculous to begin with.
Bug John
XTH was fine for 99% of us as it was introduced the first time
why the f*** did they try to improve it ?
btw, am I the only one who's getting seriously pissed off at the usual "sorry, we can't, we're working on GW2" excuse we're hearing all the time ?
why the f*** did they try to improve it ?
btw, am I the only one who's getting seriously pissed off at the usual "sorry, we can't, we're working on GW2" excuse we're hearing all the time ?
Deatgs Corrupter
yeah don't bother working on the game u already have.. tht is a great way to restore player faith after bare-faced lies about account security, guild wars 6 month campaigns and regular skill balances
go cubs
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btw, am I the only one who's getting seriously pissed off at the usual "sorry, we can't, we're working on GW2" excuse we're hearing all the time ?
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Not a fan of the way they handled this whole mess, dont care too much about the xth although it was nice, it would be nice to get our may points too but i doubt it will happen...
didnt expect anything more than this.
Trader of Secrets
Somewhat expected. I still dont understand how the reformating of how XTH looked like made so much errors. I mean it was fine until that, wasnt it?
Greedy Gus
Good decision. Predictions system was flawed, and let zkeys & RPs be for actually pvping.
Devastating Flames
Good glad to see anet rather work on the gw2 then go and fix old items that will not be used after a few months pending the relase of guild wars two taht is. for them to actually go and fix the house could delay the realse of gw2 by a month or two if not more. two thumbs up from me
Pandora's box
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I sure hope not. If GW2 is like GW is now (not that it is "terrible", but it sure is slow-going in terms of content and updates) then ArenNet's staff better have their resume's handy....
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Eragon Zarroc
meh, w/e. it's been down long enough that it doesn't even matter that its just now been decided to be retired permanently. oh wells.
Just4Fun
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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc
meh, w/e. it's been down long enough that it doesn't even matter that its just now been decided to be retired permanently. oh wells.
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Exactly, Why do you think they drag it out so long..
Skyy High
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Originally Posted by Coast
no need from regina to post here, wasted effort since everyone alrdy knew they shut it down.
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Anyway, nail in the coffin ftw.
Cale Roughstar
Meh, my 3 extra accounts have been filling in nicely as mules etc for a while now.
Don't particularly care now, seeing as we haven't had it in forever. Had pretty much forgotten about it tbh. Still a fail though.
Don't particularly care now, seeing as we haven't had it in forever. Had pretty much forgotten about it tbh. Still a fail though.
kedde
Finally a slight sign of functioning braincells.
rick1027
thanks for the update xth rip not that it surprises me but thanks i was thinking for a while it became vaporware and we were not going to hear anything more about it
meetwo
I was assured that there was a record of what I was owed and that it would be made right.
To TPTB, you have the records. Why can't you simply put the keys into the accounts? What is the big deal to make this right?
I'm woefully tired of empty promises. And as you can see from other comments here you can see that others are as well.
I appreciate that the team is working on GW2, but that isn't an excuse to abandon the people who are participating in the current version of GW.
This is easily fixed. Why won't you fix it? Put the keys into our accts.
To TPTB, you have the records. Why can't you simply put the keys into the accounts? What is the big deal to make this right?
I'm woefully tired of empty promises. And as you can see from other comments here you can see that others are as well.
I appreciate that the team is working on GW2, but that isn't an excuse to abandon the people who are participating in the current version of GW.
This is easily fixed. Why won't you fix it? Put the keys into our accts.
byteme!
No more free money?! ZOMG what will all the scrubs in game do to make money now?!
/sarcasm
Good riddance
/sarcasm
Good riddance
KZaske
Thank you for letting us know for sure Regina. I guess I will forget about the 150+ points I was due on my primary account and the 130 on the secondary account.
Aussie Boy
Well I don't care about the house being up or down really but as many have said already including yourself Regina.
You have a record of who needs the points and promised we would get them so "I wants me points "
Easy way IMO "but then i don't know code" is add the points guy for a week only and give us all 100 points or something like that
if you don't get to him in that week it's tough luck.
You have a record of who needs the points and promised we would get them so "I wants me points "
Easy way IMO "but then i don't know code" is add the points guy for a week only and give us all 100 points or something like that
if you don't get to him in that week it's tough luck.
Fates
Really? It took you this long to make this decision? You did an "extensive" review of the code? Instead of doing the intensive review, why not just rewrite?
SithLord2064
While I am sad to see the XTH go, I have to say, I doubt anyone is surprised by this development. After all, it has been MONTHS since the XTH shut down, and there have been many posts about how they were trying to fix it, but other posts saying how a lot of the team was working on GW2 and the inordinately late skill balance (aka, the death of Shadow Form farming).
For me, the XTH was just about getting free z-keys and working on yet ANOTHER title. Just like Red Resign day, I knew that it would, eventually, be removed. So, what does this mean for me? That if I want a Z-key, I have to actually EARN it. This game used to have certain aspects that were laudable. I used to look at people with the rank emote and think, "wow, I'll NEVER be able to get that." Mainly because, it required skill in PvP, which I do not have. I looked at Obsidian armor and thought, "wow, I'll NEVER have the cash for something like that." Mainly because I didn't farm enough.
It is my OPINION that Z-keys were added as a reward for PvPers to use their fairly won Balthazar faction or Tournament Reward Points on after they've unlocked everything. The player base found ways to earn Z-keys in the easiest fashion, which made their "prestige" drop dramatically. Yes, the XTH allowed us to grab a ton of keys, but, if getting keys is important to a person, there are many other ways to go about it. And it is why I have chosen to look at the daily Zaishen Missions and Bounties as the new XTH. 1 gold z-coin = 1 z-key, as simple as that.
For me, the XTH was just about getting free z-keys and working on yet ANOTHER title. Just like Red Resign day, I knew that it would, eventually, be removed. So, what does this mean for me? That if I want a Z-key, I have to actually EARN it. This game used to have certain aspects that were laudable. I used to look at people with the rank emote and think, "wow, I'll NEVER be able to get that." Mainly because, it required skill in PvP, which I do not have. I looked at Obsidian armor and thought, "wow, I'll NEVER have the cash for something like that." Mainly because I didn't farm enough.
It is my OPINION that Z-keys were added as a reward for PvPers to use their fairly won Balthazar faction or Tournament Reward Points on after they've unlocked everything. The player base found ways to earn Z-keys in the easiest fashion, which made their "prestige" drop dramatically. Yes, the XTH allowed us to grab a ton of keys, but, if getting keys is important to a person, there are many other ways to go about it. And it is why I have chosen to look at the daily Zaishen Missions and Bounties as the new XTH. 1 gold z-coin = 1 z-key, as simple as that.
pumpkin pie
I hope the whole XTH database on the web page is removed.
Dawn Angelheart
I'd assume by the fact its been 5 pages since the question was 1st asked. Regina wont be replying saying we will/wont be getting our points from the may predictions. So that's that idea out the window.
but GG on the keys being back for pvp'ers.
but GG on the keys being back for pvp'ers.
Shadowmoon
Removed Content:
ta, hb, heroes in pvp, XTH
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Dhuum and cash shop
I'm glad all that extra cash shop money goin somewhere good
ta, hb, heroes in pvp, XTH
Added Content:
Dhuum and cash shop
I'm glad all that extra cash shop money goin somewhere good
coil
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We'd need to WORK to fix TA.
Oh well, we'll just remove it. We'd need to WORK to fix HB. Oh well, we'll just remove it. We'd need to WORK to fix XTH. Oh well, we'll just remove it. We'd need to WORK to fix certain skills. Oh well, we'll just remove them. |
stop removing content and adding (nothing) please.
careful when you cry pve/pvp is broken...next thing you know.. REMOVED
rohara
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please stop removing stuff! its not like we have a lot of new things to look forward to before gw2, aside from a skill balance here and there and some minis. sheesh, in 8 months, i could have recoded a new XTH 4 times over...
Elnino
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Originally Posted by upier
We'd need to WORK to fix TA.
Oh well, we'll just remove it. We'd need to WORK to fix HB. Oh well, we'll just remove it. We'd need to WORK to fix XTH. Oh well, we'll just remove it. We'd need to WORK to fix certain skills. Oh well, we'll just remove them. |
I'm not disappointed by the removal, but I still want my May tournament reward points which we were all promised!
Firebaall
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I'd assume by the fact its been 5 pages since the question was 1st asked. Regina wont be replying saying we will/wont be getting our points from the may predictions. So that's that idea out the window.
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The very least we should be expecting, is that the last month's award is given out in light of the path of abandonment they've selected.
Unfortunately the least we expect, will turn to us expecting the least.
MagmaRed
Eitehr Regina is horrible at her job, or Anet screws her over royaly. Anyone who paid even minor attention to the XTH fiasco knew it was not coming back. The delay on them telling us could NOT have been because they were still working on it. It does not take that long to code or test something like that. Should have taken a month AT MOST to learn the system wasn't fixable. Should have taken a month AT MOST to code something new. I could care less that it is gone, but the info provided about it has been disastrous.
And as already noted, we were told points for May were KNOWN, and would be given when it was fixed. Since it isn't getting fixed we won't be getting those points. Yet surely Anet staff knew people would want to know this. Did Regina fail to tell us that info, or did they want to hide it for some reason?
I'd be happy, yes, truly happy, if they told us they were screwing up big time, making drastic mistakes, and not planning on fixing them. Instead, they are telling us nothing and expecting us to be patient. Do they realize this does not bode well for GW2 sales? Surely they must realize they are shooting themselves in the foot.
Anet, come clean. Tell us what the hell is happening, when it is happening, and stop hiding. The info we have gotten has been WRONG or nonexistant. Time for some accurate info that comes when it should. And GW2 production has been slow.... how about info on why it is so slow, and what we can expect from the game. The previews look nice, but we don't know any details about how the game plays, how GW and GW2 will connect, or anything that would help us decide if we want to buy it.
I pity Regina.... she has to be the one to look stupid for her companies mistakes.
And as already noted, we were told points for May were KNOWN, and would be given when it was fixed. Since it isn't getting fixed we won't be getting those points. Yet surely Anet staff knew people would want to know this. Did Regina fail to tell us that info, or did they want to hide it for some reason?
I'd be happy, yes, truly happy, if they told us they were screwing up big time, making drastic mistakes, and not planning on fixing them. Instead, they are telling us nothing and expecting us to be patient. Do they realize this does not bode well for GW2 sales? Surely they must realize they are shooting themselves in the foot.
Anet, come clean. Tell us what the hell is happening, when it is happening, and stop hiding. The info we have gotten has been WRONG or nonexistant. Time for some accurate info that comes when it should. And GW2 production has been slow.... how about info on why it is so slow, and what we can expect from the game. The previews look nice, but we don't know any details about how the game plays, how GW and GW2 will connect, or anything that would help us decide if we want to buy it.
I pity Regina.... she has to be the one to look stupid for her companies mistakes.
upier
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zzzzz xth zzzz Will miss the gold whenever I needed it, but we all did just fine before it... and have been doing just find without it.
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Oh wait ...
Well, maybe GW2 will have PvP then.
Zehnchu
Now they just need to remove the Zchest and Zkeys all together and titles and everything will be back to being awesome.
bursta91
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Originally Posted by Fates
Really? It took you this long to make this decision? You did an "extensive" review of the code? Instead of doing the intensive review, why not just rewrite?
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- see ursan
- see SF (assuming it happens within the month)
- see pvp updates
Tramp
2 thoughts:
1) They suckered all those people into buying the xmas 2008 special deals on guild wars accounts at $10 a pop, because most of those were bought to do the xth each month. Any refunds coming?
2) Now zkeys will retain their value or go higher, the new bots for pvp which are being used to amass fortunes in faction/zkeys are going to be even more attractive to the mainstream player. These new undetectable super bots for pvp/festival/(soon to be applied to pve no doubt) that everyone is talking about should grow exponentially now there is going to be guaranteed good money in it. It is always about following the money trail. Good bye guild wars, hello bot wars. The end life of a game is always precursored by a rise in bots and this new undetectable bot signals the end to me. Bring back xth, kill zkey prices, and the bots are not as attractive. Kill xth, keep zkeys high priced, and bots will flourish. The strategy is clear: kill xth, keep silent on the new type of bots, monkey ---- around with skills that will piss of half the customer base having fun farming with them, and pray to god that the customers follow them to the gw2 promised land. (a smart sounding techie guy in the bot thread said that unless they change the gw2 engine, the new bots will be coming to gw2 also... maybe that is where they should divert the xth programer (single, not plural)).
1) They suckered all those people into buying the xmas 2008 special deals on guild wars accounts at $10 a pop, because most of those were bought to do the xth each month. Any refunds coming?
2) Now zkeys will retain their value or go higher, the new bots for pvp which are being used to amass fortunes in faction/zkeys are going to be even more attractive to the mainstream player. These new undetectable super bots for pvp/festival/(soon to be applied to pve no doubt) that everyone is talking about should grow exponentially now there is going to be guaranteed good money in it. It is always about following the money trail. Good bye guild wars, hello bot wars. The end life of a game is always precursored by a rise in bots and this new undetectable bot signals the end to me. Bring back xth, kill zkey prices, and the bots are not as attractive. Kill xth, keep zkeys high priced, and bots will flourish. The strategy is clear: kill xth, keep silent on the new type of bots, monkey ---- around with skills that will piss of half the customer base having fun farming with them, and pray to god that the customers follow them to the gw2 promised land. (a smart sounding techie guy in the bot thread said that unless they change the gw2 engine, the new bots will be coming to gw2 also... maybe that is where they should divert the xth programer (single, not plural)).
Gill Halendt
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Refunds?
The game accounts were never meant to be purchased just for you to get multiple TRPs each month. You're not gonna get refunds for something you volountarily decided to spend your money on, only because you planned to abuse it and now can't anymore.
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2) The strategy is clear
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FoxBat
Anyone holding out hope for those May points... the problem with XTH was always distribution, not recording predictions. If they couldn't fix that problem, they obviously can't distribute the May points. Demanding these isn't really any different then demanding the XTH be completely restored.
GoF
So now if I want the Zaishen title I'll only need over 100,000k gold.
Hilarious.
Hilarious.