HoM Treasure hunter and Wisdom
Agar
Just a quick question, why we have to max treasure hunter and wisdom titles to add them to the HoM instead of reaching rank 2 or 3 like the rest of the titles? Doesnt realy make any sense to me...
Orry
Treasure Hunter and Wisdom were originally single-character titles as opposed to account based, they changed it to make it easier to max. Single character titles all require max rank to put in the hall of monuments.
X Ghoul
You can farm gold eggs for 2hrs and get r2 treasure, and waste some amount of xxxk for wisdom which makes it far too easy for r2 or r3 of each title. 6 is more reasonable but even at that, you might as well go max
Arduin
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Originally Posted by X Ghoul
You can farm gold eggs for 2hrs and get r2 treasure, and waste some amount of xxxk for wisdom which makes it far too easy for r2 or r3 of each title. 6 is more reasonable but even at that, you might as well go max
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revelation
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Originally Posted by Arduin
Because spending 30 hours AFK on Nine Rings for tier 2 Lucky is hard.
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Deviant Angel
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Originally Posted by revelation
At least it is expensive, and you can't run other games while AFK at GW
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I've been playing other games the entire time I've been on my ring. Aside from either having a sucky computer or simply not having any other games, why wouldn't you be able to?
Arduin
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Originally Posted by revelation
At least it is expensive...
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Agar
IMO they should change it so Treasure Hunter and Wisdom can be added in HoM at rank 3 like the rest of them. Not people have the time/will to spend thousands of platinum and run around opening chest after chest just to max 2 titles.
Tenebrae
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Originally Posted by Agar
IMO they should change it so Treasure Hunter and Wisdom can be added in HoM at rank 3 like the rest of them. I dont have the time/will to spend thousands of platinum and run around opening chest after chest just to max 2 titles.
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Same applies for 90% of the titles. Think before writing ....
HawkofStorms
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The point of titles isn't to just have them maxed (look at PvP titles and gamer).
Now, if the reward in GW2 from the HoM for the treasure hunter and wisdom titles was to be some insanely useful thing, I might agree with you. Chances are, it will be something really simple and cosmetic though, so no big deal.
The point of titles isn't to just have them maxed (look at PvP titles and gamer).
Now, if the reward in GW2 from the HoM for the treasure hunter and wisdom titles was to be some insanely useful thing, I might agree with you. Chances are, it will be something really simple and cosmetic though, so no big deal.
Agar
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Originally Posted by Tenebrae
Yeah , fixed. Me me me and then me again. Dont have the time ? dont do it , no one forces you , no one is going to blame you . If you dont do it , your game play is not affected.
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You confuse a prestige title in game with a reward for playing Guild Wars in the long run.
sixdartbart
This thread is why they should have NEVER made any title be able to be put in HOM until it was maxed.
Do 1 thing to make anything a bit easier on people and they start screaming that everything should be easier.
NO HOPE for our future!!!
Do 1 thing to make anything a bit easier on people and they start screaming that everything should be easier.
NO HOPE for our future!!!
Puddin Cheeks
As i have said before, Grandmaster Treasure Hunter > than GWAMM by far.
upier
My ritualist has the most maxed titles out of all the guys on my account - I think he just reached his 10th maxed title after I AFKed my way to max Lucky today. I also stopped playing him a few months ago because I got bored of him. Which means I am back at square one on my assassin (well not exactly - I think he's currently at 5 max titles) - or maybe even my ranger because I am now toying with the idea of maining my new ranger (who really is at square 1 - he's currently still in the process of getting his Survivor).
The problem with titles is that they dictate a very specific way to play the game. And given the number of titles available and the number of titles needed for GWAMM - you don't get much choice in how you want to achieve it. So if GW2 bonuses are tied to GWAMM achievements, those of us that find this very much grindy way to play GW to be to boring will be put in the position of players that never even played GW.
Regardless of the fact that some of us probably have more playtime than the massive majority of the GW players.
This isn't going to be a problem if ALL the GW2 bonuses will be achieved by having something like 10 or 15 titles in your HoM, with a few weapons and minies. But if the only way to get all the GW2 bonuses is going to be to have ALL the GW achievements then the massive grind in GW needs to be toned down.
The problem with titles is that they dictate a very specific way to play the game. And given the number of titles available and the number of titles needed for GWAMM - you don't get much choice in how you want to achieve it. So if GW2 bonuses are tied to GWAMM achievements, those of us that find this very much grindy way to play GW to be to boring will be put in the position of players that never even played GW.
Regardless of the fact that some of us probably have more playtime than the massive majority of the GW players.
This isn't going to be a problem if ALL the GW2 bonuses will be achieved by having something like 10 or 15 titles in your HoM, with a few weapons and minies. But if the only way to get all the GW2 bonuses is going to be to have ALL the GW achievements then the massive grind in GW needs to be toned down.
Agar
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Originally Posted by upier
My ritualist has the most maxed titles out of all the guys on my account - I think he just reached his 10th maxed title after I AFKed my way to max Lucky today. I also stopped playing him a few months ago because I got bored of him. Which means I am back at square one on my assassin (well not exactly - I think he's currently at 5 max titles) - or maybe even my ranger because I am now toying with the idea of maining my new ranger (who really is at square 1 - he's currently still in the process of getting his Survivor).
The problem with titles is that they dictate a very specific way to play the game. And given the number of titles available and the number of titles needed for GWAMM - you don't get much choice in how you want to achieve it. So if GW2 bonuses are tied to GWAMM achievements, those of us that find this very much grindy way to pay GW to boring will be put in the position of players that never even played GW. Regardless of the fact that some of us probably have more playtime than the massive majority of the GW players. This isn't going to be a problem if ALL the GW2 bonuses will be achieved by having something like 10 or 15 titles in your HoM, with a few weapons and minies. But if the only way to get all the GW2 bonuses is going to be to have ALL the GW achievements then the massive grind in GW needs to be toned down. |
Bug John
spending thousands of platinum to add wisdom and treasure hunter to hom, but just a few hundred for most of the other titles is not logical
for titles that are nothing more than a gold sink and involve that much grind, anet should lower the requirements to hom
the same applies to drunkard and other money titles imo
for titles that are nothing more than a gold sink and involve that much grind, anet should lower the requirements to hom
the same applies to drunkard and other money titles imo
Tenebrae
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Originally Posted by Agar
Most the HoM achievements are ment to reward players that stayed with Guild wars in the long run. Although its kinda pointless to talk about that since Anet havent even told us how HoM will work and what we will get for every monument or achievement added,
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Originally Posted by Agar
Guild Wars has a no grind philosophy, its one of its selling points.
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Originally Posted by Agar
You confuse a prestige title in game with a reward for playing Guild Wars in the long run.
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Titles are titles , some are easy , some hard , some short , some long , some for the skilled to achieve in short time , some grind as hell with almost no skill involved ...... thats it.
PD: Yes , Max THunter is annoying , i have it .
Verene
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Originally Posted by Agar
Guild Wars has a no grind philosophy, its one of its selling points.
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upier
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Originally Posted by Verene
No. It has a no required grind philosophy. You are not required to grind Treasure Hunter or Wisdom or Lucky or any of those titles. It is completely optional.
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Sure, it's PvE so it works!
But is it really good for the game? Is the game really better with this much grind?
Fay Vert
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Originally Posted by Bug John
spending thousands of platinum to add wisdom
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Verene
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Originally Posted by upier
Don't like, don't do it?
Sure, it's PvE so it works! But is it really good for the game? Is the game really better with this much grind? |
I'm never going to max these titles, and I have no interest in doing so. So I simply don't mess around with them. It has no effect on me at all.
upier
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Originally Posted by Verene
Well, there are actually people out there that do like grind. This gives them something to do. So you can argue that for those who don't mind or like that sort of thing, it does make the game better.
I'm never going to max these titles, and I have no interest in doing so. So I simply don't mess around with them. It has no effect on me at all. |
Waaaa-waaa-waaaah SF should stay!
Tenebrae
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Originally Posted by upier
I quite enjoy abusing PvE skills on some of my guys and I actually enjoy running around on a perma.
Waaaa-waaa-waaaah SF should stay! |
upier
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Originally Posted by Tenebrae
Congratulations , you went 100% offtopic. TH title and HoM has nothing to do with SF , nothing.
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Agar
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Originally Posted by Tenebrae
PD: Yes , Max THunter is annoying , i have it .
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revelation
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Originally Posted by Deviant Angel
Say whaaaaat? *stewie head tilt*
I've been playing other games the entire time I've been on my ring. Aside from either having a sucky computer or simply not having any other games, why wouldn't you be able to? |
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Originally Posted by Arduin
Yes, because spending 88k for tier 2 Lucky on Nine Rings is more expensive than buying 250*600g (150k) keys for tier 2 Treasure Hunter....
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I have maxed Treasure Hunter, and almost Wisdom, but I'm still half-way Lucky and I doubt I'll ever max Unlucky..
O Nuxtofulakas
i have no problem to add it - even at rank 1 - IF and only IF they also modify/change max GWAMM title to 35 titles instead of 30 
Reformed
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Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks
As i have said before, Grandmaster Treasure Hunter > than GWAMM by far.
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Bug John
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Originally Posted by Reformed
Why not leave at least ONE PvE title unmolested that requires some actual work to get, grind or otherwise.
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so, what's the problem exactly ? would you really mind if people had one more statue in their hom ?
it's not like treasure hunting or identifying gold items required anything more than time and lots of in-game cash
Reformed
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Originally Posted by Bug John
we're talking about what should be required to add the monuments in hom, not about the max rank for gwamm
so, what's the problem exactly ? would you really mind if people had one more statue in their hom ? it's not like treasure hunting or identifying gold items required anything more than time and lots of in-game cash |
Turbo Ginsu
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Originally Posted by Agar
Guild Wars has a no grind philosophy, its one of its selling points.
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The part though, where it falls under my bracketed "To a point", is where u can't get a group in countless outposts unless you meet the groups "LF r8 Monk" etc. That's where it becomes 100% apparent that the no-grind crap is exactly that. Crap.
Perfected Shadow
I think that titles that do give gameplay advantages like SS/LB, EoTN, Lux/Kurz, and maybe lucky/treasure hunter to a lesser extent, fall under the grind category. Since I don't see why you wouldn't want to max those titles, the "don't want to don't have to" thing is crap.
upier
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Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow
I think that titles that do give gameplay advantages like SS/LB, EoTN, Lux/Kurz, and maybe lucky/treasure hunter to a lesser extent, fall under the grind category. Since I don't see why you wouldn't want to max those titles, the "don't want to don't have to" thing is crap.
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As long as titles represent content, this content needs to be in touch with the game. Currently, it is not.
Agar
Well since they have Guild Wars: Beyond now i dont see why we should consider titles as content.
Still i havent got a clear answer as to WHY they have alot of achievements available to be added at ranks lower than max but treasure hunter and wisdom not?
Still i havent got a clear answer as to WHY they have alot of achievements available to be added at ranks lower than max but treasure hunter and wisdom not?
Arduin
If you want a definitive answer, go ask Linsey.
And why would something lose its 'content status' only because new content was added? Titles are in the game, everything in the game is content.
And why would something lose its 'content status' only because new content was added? Titles are in the game, everything in the game is content.
majoho
LOL I didn't know I could put anything BUT max level things in the HoM - so I just put a lot of stuff up
EDIT: Cool now I just need some crafted weapons and it's full, yay.
EDIT: Cool now I just need some crafted weapons and it's full, yay.
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Originally Posted by upier
Actually given the fact that the game hasn't had an "expansion" in years, titles actually represent content. So the argument that one doesn't need to hunt titles is pretty much equal to the argument that the way to make all GW issues disappear is to stop playing the game.
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Truthfully while Wisdom at least can be bought, and chest can be ran, I feel they are more in touch with the game then the other titles. Now be for I continue since I know at least you know, ill admit i am currently buying my wisdom title. But, it dosent need to be bought. It can also reward actually playing the game. I got to r5 wisdom without buying golds...I got this as a reward for playing the game and iding the golds I got naturally throughout the game. Treasure hunter...well my rank in that is a little lower because...well...chest drops suck in comparison to the drops :\ ....
But compare these to sweet tooth or party animal. Their gain comes from sitting around double clicking. Not actually playing the Game.
As for lowering the req in the Hom. The HoM I feel was made to be fillable by anyone. That does not mean everyone needs to have acess to all the statues though. It wasn't made to be easy it was made, as whats-his-name already admitted, to reward people who have played and stuck with anet for the run. I started this game...a yearish late and I managed to get to r5 wisdom and coulda gotten much higher treasure hunter if I wanted to (but we wont get on about me wanting to balance out drop rates from chests to provide better benefit from opening). So I think that max treasure hunter and max wisdom is not to much to ask considering as you said the Hom was meant to reward people for sticking with them.
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Originally Posted by upier
And you think that's in touch with the game?
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sindex
Titles I usually stay away from (since their introduction in Factions), even when it comes to the Wisdom and Treasure Hunter title. I mean some of them are verily useful in game to a point, but I find the grind to be boring. The other main reason has to be this statement, for the HoM items and achievements being tied to GW 2:
This could mean that titles like Wisdom and Treasure Hunter title might lose their functionality altogether in GW 2. Since will be more cosmetic then have an actual utility.
This could mean that titles like Wisdom and Treasure Hunter title might lose their functionality altogether in GW 2. Since will be more cosmetic then have an actual utility.
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by sindex
This could mean that titles like Wisdom and Treasure Hunter title might lose their functionality altogether in GW 2. Since will be more cosmetic then have an actual utility. |
on topic, /notsigned, absolutely unneeded change. All those titles needed was making them account wide, that was a great move and now they're perfectly fine.