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Dosearius Takerius

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22 Jul 2010 at 00:17 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verene

No. It has a no required grind philosophy. You are not required to grind Treasure Hunter or Wisdom or Lucky or any of those titles. It is completely optional.

Quoted for truth.

I grow tired of all the cry babies that want everything to be handed to them.

The forth fly

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22 Jul 2010 at 00:33 - 42

i grow tired of all these anet fanboys n girls

but its not a hard title to get just takes time

mini pet monster

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E/Mo

22 Jul 2010 at 01:42 - 43

most people with max treasure hunter botted it.

the few that didn't have a supernatural ability of entertaining themselves by watching paint dry.

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22 Jul 2010 at 03:09 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by mini pet monster

most people with max treasure hunter botted it.

the few that didn't have a supernatural ability of entertaining themselves by watching paint dry.

or in my limited time doing it...having 2 monitors and watching movies on one while having the run down to muscle memory so I barely have to pay attention xD

Puddin Cheeks

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22 Jul 2010 at 03:44 - 45

I have actually made money lately running chest in HM. I didn't think it was possible at first but I have managed to do it.

Account 1: Runner, Simple no maintenance Avatar of Balthazar, Dash combo with dwarven stability for the chests that spawn on aloes . HM Boreal Station, a mindless zombie can run this. I am just now up to 3,900 chests but have managed to make it less boring. Use mouse to move and click ahead once you take off so you can look at account 2.

Account 2: Sit in Kamadan and sell mods and elite tomes and anything else you don't have time to sit and sell. I have sold tons of things that had gathered dust in my inventory. I usually manage to make more money than i break in lockpicks @ 35% chance.

It still is boring but i just listen to blade radio and strike up chat with random people.

cellardweller

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22 Jul 2010 at 03:57 - 46

8k of my 10k chests came from golden eggs, if you give up chestrunning and treat it as a festival title that you can only get once a year it becomes alot more reasonable.

Improvavel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

22 Jul 2010 at 05:17 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agar

IMO they should change it so Treasure Hunter and Wisdom can be added in HoM at rank 3 like the rest of them. Not people have the time/will to spend thousands of platinum and run around opening chest after chest just to max 2 titles.

What the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is so hard in getting these titles?

It goes up as you do regular stuff - all titles should be like that.

Arduin

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22 Jul 2010 at 08:04 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Improvavel

What the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is so hard in getting these titles?

It goes up as you do regular stuff - all titles should be like that.

It is 'hard' maxing them. All in all playing 2500 hrs GW making sure to open every chest I encountered I was able to open 2000-2500 chests. If you want to open the remaining 7500-8000, be prepared to replay areas a lot.

Silverblad3

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I use to love CB :(

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22 Jul 2010 at 10:56 - 49

On a daily basis if you managed to open 5 chests from casual play it would take 5.48 years to max the title.

My average casual play involves 1 chest per day.

Many people did not bother with the golden eggs or farm so many to make an impression on the title.

I have maxed the title

How?
Running chests, ignoring casual play and forcing time to run chests instead of HA, or other more interesting things.

It is hard..but once done I did feel a sense personal achievement.

Silver

Improvavel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

22 Jul 2010 at 13:39 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arduin

It is 'hard' maxing them. All in all playing 2500 hrs GW making sure to open every chest I encountered I was able to open 2000-2500 chests. If you want to open the remaining 7500-8000, be prepared to replay areas a lot.

I've played 7000+ hours and I've not maxed them, but it is close. Of course for the first couple of years I wasn't buying keys and go open chests regularly.

The last year I've opened more chests than the 3 years before combined.

Now - these 2 titles are hardcore titles.

The problem isn't for them to be hardcore titles - the problem is Anet coming out and saying "We will give bonuses for every titles or whatever". That stops maxing these titles optional (they still are optional for GW, but you will be penalized compared to someone that max them, in GW2, or so we were made to believe and greed is a powerful motivator).

Additionally, regular play simply isn't rewarding enough compared to farming/speed clearing.

That is true because killing a monster isn't rewarding compared to other activities! And especially killing a monster with a group is less rewarding than doing so alone.

Go do a dungeon with people.

What do people want?
Getting to the chest as fast as they can.

Why is that?
Because mob drops are mostly worthless - most people don't even pick up their non-gold drops.

See what is wrong here?
Anet in a effort to stop inflation due to an increase in gold/platinum by farmers, reduced the value of killing a monster!

They had two choices - 1) make farming impossible or slower than group killing (if you prefer, make group killing faster), or 2) Reduce value of a kill.

They chose the second which means everybody is affected and not only farmers, and even though, steps have been made to make group killing faster, killing a monster simply isn't worth when compared to reach the end-chest.

Jk Arrow

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22 Jul 2010 at 15:47 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dosearius Takerius

Quoted for truth.

I grow tired of all the cry babies that want everything to be handed to them.

Word.

12 chars....

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22 Jul 2010 at 16:02 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agar

Just a quick question, why we have to max treasure hunter and wisdom titles to add them to the HoM instead of reaching rank 2 or 3 like the rest of the titles? Doesnt realy make any sense to me...

These were character specific titles that turned into account wide titles but kept the character-specific-HoM-statue-addition-requirements.

I am not of the opinion that it needs fixing, there are plenty of other statues to display in your HoM if your into that sort of thing, and if you want to max the title, more power to you

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Aldric

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22 Jul 2010 at 17:53 - 53

I found Wisdom to be quit a fun title. Took me about 6 weeks and I just bought every (inscribable) unid i could find for 7/5k then salvaged and sold what i could in Kamadan. Ended up with 10k items ided and a few hundred K more cash than i had when i started

I did originally plan to do it fully by running chests and iding but i got really RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing bored after 150 chests that i gave up. Kudos to anyone who can stand to do the chestrunner track

As for the titles, although I have the required min ranks for Zaishen/lucky/unlucky and both allegiances I don't think you should have been able to add the statue to the HoM unless you maxed the track. It would not bother me if Anet decided tomorrow to remove all non maxed statues from the HoM, adding them early feels a bit like cheating and i kinda regret doing it

majoho

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22 Jul 2010 at 18:31 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldric

I found Wisdom to be quit a fun title. Took me about 6 weeks and I just bought every (inscribable) unid i could find for 7/5k then salvaged and sold what i could in Kamadan.

You must be easily amused because that doesn't sound "fun" to me!

Solas

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22 Jul 2010 at 18:41 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dosearius Takerius

Quoted for truth.

I grow tired of all the cry babies that want everything to be handed to them.

if you can do it 2500 times you can do it it 10,000 times.
It's not a question of things being handed to us it's just reducing grind.
i'd consider it just like the drunkard titles, doesn't mean it takes skill, jsut means alot of hours down the sink.

All it means it that the titels will be brought in-line with other account titles.

jazilla

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23 Jul 2010 at 01:57 - 56

I have both of these maxed and the Book Shelf for Wisdom is awesome and the Treasure chests are too small.

mage767

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23 Jul 2010 at 03:33 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agar

10.000 chests to unlock the achievement? I mean come on! Isnt that stupid? Most the HoM achievements are ment to reward players that stayed with Guild wars in the long run. Although its kinda pointless to talk about that since Anet havent even told us how HoM will work and what we will get for every monument or achievement added, Guild Wars has a no grind philosophy, its one of its selling points. Iam not talking about maxing a title which indeed requires some effort, iam talking about LOWERING THE REQ TO ADD IT TO HoM! And HoM in other words is a "thank you" from Anet for playing GW all these years and not a way for Hardcore players to show off when the new game is released.

You confuse a prestige title in game with a reward for playing Guild Wars in the long run.

Many people did it, so do it if you covet it - that's the way it is!

Personally, I don't care anymore - I maxed all PvE titles there is.

system.fan

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23 Jul 2010 at 16:54 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

on topic, /notsigned, absolutely unneeded change. All those titles needed was making them account wide, that was a great move and now they're perfectly fine.

agreed 100%!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agar

10.000 chests to unlock the achievement? I mean come on! Isnt that stupid?

Well if 10.000 = stupid... I have to be a rly rly stupid player with 20k opened chests huh?
I don't think so....
Also i know a few ppl that have opened far more than 30k ;-)

When I started playing "Treasure Hunter" was the only title I rly wanted....
So I started chestrunning ago with my main character (like you know it wasnt acc wide earlier)....
I had a looooot of fun while chestrunning in PUG's, with friends or guildmates... and even when i ran alone i had fun when i got some nice drops!

If you rly like the title... 10.000 is fair!
If you are scared of 10.000... go get another noobish title like r10 sunspear

greetz,
system.fan

Puddin Cheeks

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23 Jul 2010 at 17:10 - 59

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Originally Posted by system.fan

You Sir get an atta boy pat on the butt!

Vixen

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26 Jul 2010 at 13:09 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by mini pet monster

most people with max treasure hunter botted it.

the few that didn't have a supernatural ability of entertaining themselves by watching paint dry.

At least the image is moving, unlike paint.

(Speaking from experience as an ex-chest runner).

Skyy High

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26 Jul 2010 at 16:13 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

Don't like, don't do it?
Sure, it's PvE so it works!
But is it really good for the game? Is the game really better with this much grind?

Considering PvE players were begging for something to do...yes. Take out title hunting; what else is there to the endgame after you do all the dungeons and stuff a couple times? PvP...that was the idea, but turns out most people didn't feel like moving over, they just stayed in PvE and farmed their arses off, and that was way before moneysink titles were added!

Tenebrae

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26 Jul 2010 at 18:13 - 62

Ok , having 20k chests opened is sick , i agree. Saying that most ppl with max TH botted it is like making up statistics .... you know , 90% of them are false.

system.fan

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27 Jul 2010 at 16:18 - 63

Well i personally maxed my Treasure Hunter before EotN came out. And many other people did that too... So there wasn't even the possibility to bot the title =)

And to say that most people with treasure hunter are botters just sucks...
Ofc its absolutely true that many people botted the title....

But still:
many ppl botted luxon / kurzick max
many ppl bought unid golds from bots for wisdom title
many ppl bot/sync in RA/TA
many ppl have farm bots for party/sweet/alc items
many ppl used alcohol click bot

And nobody is talking shit like... wow max alcohol title.. you're a botter!
so nobody should do that with treasure hunter's too lol

And of course talking shit like most treasure hunters are botters makes all with treasure hunter look good cause you can't see if he botted it or did it the legal way....

Puddin Cheeks

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27 Jul 2010 at 16:36 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Ok , having 20k chests opened is sick , i agree. Saying that most ppl with max TH botted it is like making up statistics .... you know , 90% of them are false.

And also 80% of percentages are made up on the spot.

To Chicken To Die

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Mo/

28 Jul 2010 at 07:17 - 65

Ow look another "I want it but am to lazy to get it so make it easier to get" thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by system.fan

Well i personally maxed my Treasure Hunter before EotN came out. And many other people did that too... So there wasn't even the possibility to bot the title =)

Yes there were no bots before EOtN -.- the game was bot free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by system.fan

And to say that most people with treasure hunter are botters just sucks...
Ofc its absolutely true that many people botted the title....

But still:
many ppl botted luxon / kurzick max
many ppl bought unid golds from bots for wisdom title
many ppl bot/sync in RA/TA
many ppl have farm bots for party/sweet/alc items
many ppl used alcohol click bot

And nobody is talking shit like... wow max alcohol title.. you're a botter!
so nobody should do that with treasure hunter's too lol

People with max drunkard are called botter more often then people with max treasure hunter. That because there are more people with max drunkard the bot is alot easier clickbot versus a bot that needs to adjust to changing chest locations and enemy locations etc. and because of the publicity ban Anet made lately.

Quote:

Originally Posted by system.fan

And of course talking shit like most treasure hunters are botters makes all with treasure hunter look good cause you can't see if he botted it or did it the legal way....

system.fan

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28 Jul 2010 at 16:00 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

Yes there were no bots before EOtN -.- the game was bot free.

the only chestrunning bots are in eotn... boreal station, arent they??.
so YES there were not chestrunning bots before eotn dude...

To Chicken To Die

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30 Jul 2010 at 21:21 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by system.fan

the only chestrunning bots are in eotn... boreal station, arent they??.
so YES there were not chestrunning bots before eotn dude...

Orly didn't know you knew every bot thats excists in this game maybe you should try getting a job at Anet and help them find bots. You look like you work there already ow 1 bot that must be all lets go on and ignore the rest that can be out there.

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30 Jul 2010 at 21:38 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by system.fan

the only chestrunning bots are in eotn... boreal station, arent they??.
so YES there were not chestrunning bots before eotn dude...

Uhmmmm, bots existed pre eotn... just because its the one used now....Doesn't mean that there wasn't one used pre eotn that wasn't as efficient and thereby isn't used anymore.

Also, yeah most of my unid'd golds that i bought were mostly from botters...or at least I suspected they were....I cant guarantee that they were of course.

Zebideedee

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03 Aug 2010 at 01:00 - 69

Not bothering with Treasure Hunter myself, sure I might be depriving myself of many extremely monotonous hours and (possibly) some pixels when GW2 comes out, but I'm sure I can live with it. Playing other games that are much more fun than opening chest after chest after chest also helps

prinzess of life

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03 Aug 2010 at 12:39 - 70

I am an addicted treasure hunter, first i did it to max out my treasure hunter titel opening normal mode chests. The result was that after opening 10.000 chest my wisdom titel was only at 3500 and that includes gold drops i got while normal playing. So in order to max out wisdom titel i had to open more chests and in hardmode to get more gold drops. My next titel maxed was the Lucky titel , i just spend like 100k on the rings seeing it's a total waste of time and money i just got that titel maxed opening chests and retaining lockpicks. Finaly i maxed wisdom but my unlucky titel was only at 160.000 that was befor the update and you only got 25 pts for breaking a lockpick. I continued opening chest during normal gameplay but wasn't chestrunning anymore. After the Unlucky points update i decide to max the unlucky title. I maxed it by opening chests in normal mode since you get more unluckypoints for breaking lockpicks there. My Treasure hunter titel reached 23.500 chest by maxing out the unlucky titel that was a year ago. I still open chests now, just because i'm adicted to it , but i only open them while normal gameplay and guess what... my treasure hunter titel is at 27.315 , wisdom at 13.030 because i let my guildmate id my golddrops for his titel, my lucky titel is at an astronomicaly 3.986.505 and my unlucky at 600.033.

Moral of this it is that if you play the game normaly and open every chest you encounter you will end up geting these titels anyways i opened 4000 chest in 1 year not even trying to run chests. On a sidenote when i was chestrunning i managed to do 250 chest a night (8 hours non-stop chestrunning in order to be able to do that i had to be drunk watch tv and speak to guildmates on teamspeak at the same time to entertain me... there is no way i could run chest again now).

prinzess of life

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03 Aug 2010 at 12:50 - 71

No the Treasurehunter and Wisdom Title realy should be maxed befor you can put them in your HoM. If you can't do it then why do you bother with Titles in the first place. Don't just do Titels for the HoM.

system.fan

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03 Aug 2010 at 13:30 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by End

Uhmmmm, bots existed pre eotn...

ofc there were bots pre eotn.... but i dont know any chestrunning bot expect the one at boreal station...
im pretty sure there wasnt any other (good working) CR bot before eotn...

BenjZee

Forge Runner

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03 Aug 2010 at 13:35 - 73

Im not liking how people are saying theres not alot of point if your not doing the titles for the HoM, ya know i was happy doing these personal achievments before EoTN existed. Let the HoM accept them non-maxed as it does and if you want to continue the title, then so be it.
Atleast with this title it does give you a small in game benefit.

BuD

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03 Aug 2010 at 16:42 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by system.fan

im pretty sure there wasnt any other (good working) CR bot before eotn...

There used to be a chest right outside Jade Flats (Kurzick) down the hill a bit that spawned nearly every time you zoned into Melandru's Hope.

It got exploited pretty heavily & ANet finally decided to nerf how chests spawn. Probably due to the CR bots back then.

system.fan

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03 Aug 2010 at 17:04 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuD

There used to be a chest right outside Jade Flats (Kurzick) down the hill a bit that spawned nearly every time you zoned into Melandru's Hope.

It got exploited pretty heavily & ANet finally decided to nerf how chests spawn. Probably due to the CR bots back then.

Uh alright.... sry for my false statement if that chest rly got botted.
never heard of a chestrunning bot for that area before....

still it sucks to say chestrunners are all botters... cause its still false even if title could be botted from the beginning :P

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

11 Aug 2010 at 04:50 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

As i have said before, Grandmaster Treasure Hunter > than GWAMM by far.

yeah lol because running chest in boreal station makes you pro...
i know it was posted in feb but still :-)

Puddin Cheeks

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11 Aug 2010 at 12:46 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by My New Name

yeah lol because running chest in boreal station makes you pro...
i know it was posted in feb but still :-)

LOL, someone feels my love. I stick to it. I guarantee there are fewer Grand Master Treasure Hunters than GWAMM so yes it is more rare.

nologic

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11 Aug 2010 at 13:39 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by system.fan

the only chestrunning bots are in eotn... boreal station, arent they??.
so YES there were not chestrunning bots before eotn dude...

I usually run those chests since they doesnt waste my time unless im doing a mission so not all of them are bots.
I wouldnt even consider using one either. o_O

But i have seen bots there so..

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

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Mo/

11 Aug 2010 at 13:47 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by system.fan

Uh alright.... sry for my false statement if that chest rly got botted.
never heard of a chestrunning bot for that area before....

still it sucks to say chestrunners are all botters... cause its still false even if title could be botted from the beginning :P

Alot of bots excisted for the last 5 years but they weren't as public back then. Atleast not as much as the last year.

And you really should ignore the people that say chestrunners are all botters because it's just a way for people to get other who made a archievment down to there lvl because there to lazy or bored to do it themself. Just a group of haters feeling themself unworthy and can't stand people that can do something they can't.

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

18 Nov 2010 at 20:04 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

LOL, someone feels my love. I stick to it. I guarantee there are fewer Grand Master Treasure Hunters than GWAMM so yes it is more rare.

that is because GWAMM is cooler title and treasure hunter isn't necessary to get it. 5months late reply again! gwamm makes you far more prestige than treasure hunter...