Hello , I just installed a new system, I ran prime95 for more than 12hours without errors and issues. Temperature of the cpu was 49 degrees celcius after the 12 hours , it never crossed the 49 degrees.
I ran also the Furmark (stability mode windowed lowest resolution and withotu AA) for more than 4 hours and GPU temp was not crossing 72 degrees after the 4 hours.
I have all intel latest chipset drivers , latest nvidia video drivers (not beta) and latest bios for the motherboard (bios 502)
I have a fresh new installation of windows 7 N 64bit + all updates
Now, when I play GW it crash after a few minutes , the funny thing is when it crash , the screen freeze and the mouse cursor looks funny (different colors and a line next to it) then the screen goes black and lost signal of the monitor. A manual restart is needed. No blue screen or anything, when booting to the part where you can choose Windows Safe mode it says that the error was that the system stop responding.
I also play the new Alien versus Predator game online *Confirmed* game crash the same way as GW, no BSOD etc, *also crash with Starcraft 2* , so the problem is gaming.
Here are my specs:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 at 2.6ghz (OC)
Motherboard P5P43TD PRO (with latest bios 502)
4GB Corsair TW3X4G1600C9DHX (at 1333Mhz 1.8v , 9-9-9-24)
Videocard Nvidia 9800gx2
PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W
OS: Windows 7 N 64bits
1 DVD burner connected to IDE
2 HDD connected to SATA
Case: CoolerMaster HAF 932
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw 22"
Thank you for your help.
PS: A funny thing I forgot to mention is that Memtest crash before testing the memory , and also if I choose to run memtest with multi processor it crash too.
My PC can do Prime95 12+ hours but crash gaming
malevolence
Elder III
are those the default timings and voltage for that memory? Do the BIOS/mobo default settings for the RAM match the recommended settings from the RAM manufacturer?
malevolence
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Originally Posted by Elder III
are those the default timings and voltage for that memory? Do the BIOS/mobo default settings for the RAM match the recommended settings from the RAM manufacturer?
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Also , in the manual it say the TW3X4G1600C9DHX is compatible with this board , but they tested only 1 pair(or 1 module, manual and compatibility info is a bit weird) at 1333mhz 1.8v 9-9-9-24. I also tried running the PC with only 1 module , exactly the same results.
Now , after the crash I see a message in boot (before OS) it says that I need to upgrade the Asus express gate ? I will research a bit about it because I have no clue if this is affecting the system or not.
malevolence
Anyway , I deactivated the express gate as I read on the internet it can craete problems , also I left memtest-86 running testing 1 module of TW3X4G1600C9DHX @ 1333Mhz 1.8v , 9-9-9-24. This morning ,before leaving for work , I checked it and it was 4hours running without error messages (10 passes) and I left it there for another 8 hours.
I noticed that memtest-86 cannot recognize my system very well , I see on the screen memtest-86 recognize the motherboard as DDR2 ? also the processot is wrong , it says is a core 2 3000mhz, is there a correct version of memtest-86 ? Does the test still valid even when memtest-86 recognize the system wrong ?
Cheers.
malevolence.
I noticed that memtest-86 cannot recognize my system very well , I see on the screen memtest-86 recognize the motherboard as DDR2 ? also the processot is wrong , it says is a core 2 3000mhz, is there a correct version of memtest-86 ? Does the test still valid even when memtest-86 recognize the system wrong ?
Cheers.
malevolence.
Beren985
Give this a try: disable all the auto-over/underclocking software that lately comes with the ASUS motherboards, TurboV or this other "green PC" utilities for reduced CO2 emission. They caused a lot of trouble to me, up to the point of spending more than 200€ changing parts of my PC that I thought were malfunctioning, when in the end all trouble was caused by this shitty software pieces.
If this doesn't work, then I would bet for a graphic card problem, it may not show on those stress tests but is the usual suspect for when a PC crashes only when gaming.
If this doesn't work, then I would bet for a graphic card problem, it may not show on those stress tests but is the usual suspect for when a PC crashes only when gaming.
Elder III
I like to buy ASUS boards and I always disable express gate.... no real need for it imo. If memtest is not recognizing your system correctly then it leads me to wonder if you have the latest version of it? Did you try downloading from guru3d?
malevolence
@ Beren985 , I didn't install any of those softwares , and now on my bios I have the express gate disabled just in case. Maybe there is another software I am not aware of ?
@ Elder , yep express gate is disabled now. I found the correct memtest version I need
, the one I was using is an old version.
Now, I just arrived from work and found the memtest-86 still running , it did 34 pass , 0 Errors and 0 ECC err , so I guess this module is perfect, it was running at 1333mhz 9-9-9-24 @ 1.8v (with this version of memtest I was not able to test both modules) , this test was stable for +16 hours
I have the new memtest-86 version so I will run another test, also I will test the system with Express gate disabled and see if it still crashing.
@ Elder , yep express gate is disabled now. I found the correct memtest version I need
, the one I was using is an old version.Now, I just arrived from work and found the memtest-86 still running , it did 34 pass , 0 Errors and 0 ECC err , so I guess this module is perfect, it was running at 1333mhz 9-9-9-24 @ 1.8v (with this version of memtest I was not able to test both modules) , this test was stable for +16 hours
I have the new memtest-86 version so I will run another test, also I will test the system with Express gate disabled and see if it still crashing.
Tharg
that is an SLI video card, right? Does your Mobo happen to have integrated graphics? If so, take out your video card and see what happens. Or can you switch out your video card for a non-SLI card to test?
Quaker
Why do you seem to assume that the problem is related to the RAM or video driver? It could just as easily be your audio driver (or any driver) that is causing conflicts. Update all your drivers.
Tharg
I think he mentioned he has all the updates. I think we are past the 'it must be a driver issue' stage. Graphics seems to be the most logical place to start with.
malevolence
@Thar
I don't have another video card
the 9800gx2 is dual GPU. I have another computer here , I will test the video card on that one and see how it goes. The mobo doesn't have integrated graphics.
@Quaker
I have all latest drivers installed as far as I know , the mobo drivers I downloaded from Asus.com.
-Chipset drivers Version 9.1.1.1014 . Installed
-Audio driver Version 5.10.0.5859/6.0.1.58 . Installed
-LAN driver Version 10045/10018/10040 . Installed
-Nvidia 196.21 WHQL. Installed
On Asus website I see there is an "Others" tab and I can see :
-JMicron JMB36X Controller Driver V1.17.48.16 for Windows7 32 and 64 bit.(WHQL)
-Intel RAID/AHCI driver for Windows XP/Vista/Windos7 32 and 64 bit.(WHQL) JMicron JMB36X AHCI driver for Windows XP/Vista/Windos7 32 and 64 bit.(WHQL)
-Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager V8.9.0.1023 for Windows 7 and Windows 64bit 7.(WHQL)
-ASUS EPU 4-Engine V1.00.25 for Windows XP/Vista/Windows7 32bit and 64bit.
But I didn't install them , do I need those ?
Just got a BSOD few seconds ago while playing AvP Dx9,
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.28
Locale ID: 1033
Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 124
BCP1: 0000000000000000
BCP2: FFFFFA8002A1C028
BCP3: 00000000F2000040
BCP4: 0000000000000800
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1
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C:\Windows\Minidump\032210-19047-01.dmp
C:\Windows\Temp\WER-26270-0.sysdata.xml
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I don't have another video card
the 9800gx2 is dual GPU. I have another computer here , I will test the video card on that one and see how it goes. The mobo doesn't have integrated graphics.@Quaker
I have all latest drivers installed as far as I know , the mobo drivers I downloaded from Asus.com.
-Chipset drivers Version 9.1.1.1014 . Installed
-Audio driver Version 5.10.0.5859/6.0.1.58 . Installed
-LAN driver Version 10045/10018/10040 . Installed
-Nvidia 196.21 WHQL. Installed
On Asus website I see there is an "Others" tab and I can see :
-JMicron JMB36X Controller Driver V1.17.48.16 for Windows7 32 and 64 bit.(WHQL)
-Intel RAID/AHCI driver for Windows XP/Vista/Windos7 32 and 64 bit.(WHQL) JMicron JMB36X AHCI driver for Windows XP/Vista/Windos7 32 and 64 bit.(WHQL)
-Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager V8.9.0.1023 for Windows 7 and Windows 64bit 7.(WHQL)
-ASUS EPU 4-Engine V1.00.25 for Windows XP/Vista/Windows7 32bit and 64bit.
But I didn't install them , do I need those ?
Just got a BSOD few seconds ago while playing AvP Dx9,
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.28
Locale ID: 1033
Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 124
BCP1: 0000000000000000
BCP2: FFFFFA8002A1C028
BCP3: 00000000F2000040
BCP4: 0000000000000800
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1
Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\032210-19047-01.dmp
C:\Windows\Temp\WER-26270-0.sysdata.xml
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malevolence
OK, the pc crashed again today and I recorded it so you can see exactly the kind of crash I had, one thing tho , max your speaker volume to hear the weird sound when it crashed lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLwcZhpuczw
PS: I also have the dmp file from the BSOD mentioned above , how or where can I send it so someone can read it and tell me what the BSOD was about ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLwcZhpuczw
PS: I also have the dmp file from the BSOD mentioned above , how or where can I send it so someone can read it and tell me what the BSOD was about ?
Hey_homies
download CCClean and get rid of all the unnecessary registry
malevolence
Hello,
The PC seems to be stable at the moment, there are 3 things I changed , and I didn't test yet what of those things are causing the system to crash , but at least , I can smell where the problem is now.
Beren985 is right and he won the bet , the problem is with the video card, 9800GX2.
Now, here are the possible problems;
-Nvidia Phyxs
-Dual GPU (maybe 1 GPU is faulty)
The computer started to be stable as soon as I deactivated the dual GPU and Phyxs.
I am not sure which one is causing the system to crash , but one of them are. What I will do next is to test the PC again with Phyxs on OR with dual GPU on and determine where the issue is.
There is another thing but this one I think is not the cause. I downloaded Malwarebytes and scanned the C: Drive and found out the registry malware Hijack what so ever , and deleted it. But according to microsoft this is not a malware, what ever , I didn't care and deleted it.
But I still think the video card is the issue here.
I will update later.
The PC seems to be stable at the moment, there are 3 things I changed , and I didn't test yet what of those things are causing the system to crash , but at least , I can smell where the problem is now.
Beren985 is right and he won the bet , the problem is with the video card, 9800GX2.
Now, here are the possible problems;
-Nvidia Phyxs
-Dual GPU (maybe 1 GPU is faulty)
The computer started to be stable as soon as I deactivated the dual GPU and Phyxs.
I am not sure which one is causing the system to crash , but one of them are. What I will do next is to test the PC again with Phyxs on OR with dual GPU on and determine where the issue is.
There is another thing but this one I think is not the cause. I downloaded Malwarebytes and scanned the C: Drive and found out the registry malware Hijack what so ever , and deleted it. But according to microsoft this is not a malware, what ever , I didn't care and deleted it.
But I still think the video card is the issue here.
I will update later.
Shendaar
Given the description of the issue and the fact that your computer can survive Prime95 (which tests both the CPU and the RAM) for a long time, I think it is pretty safe to say that the issue is with the video card.
Also I noticed that you have the Nvidia 196.21 drivers installed. Nvidia had to remove these drivers from their site because they were found to prevent the fan on certain GPUs from spinning up properly. This may very well be the problem here as the card could be overheating.
I suggest you go ahead and download the latest drivers (new ones were released today).
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_wi...7.13_whql.html
Also I noticed that you have the Nvidia 196.21 drivers installed. Nvidia had to remove these drivers from their site because they were found to prevent the fan on certain GPUs from spinning up properly. This may very well be the problem here as the card could be overheating.
I suggest you go ahead and download the latest drivers (new ones were released today).
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_wi...7.13_whql.html
malevolence
Hi Shendaar , I uninstalled the old drivers with driver cleaner and after installed the 197.13 WHQL . I will test now with dual gpu enabled and phyxs enabled and see how it goes.
Thanks.
Thanks.
malevolence
Hi, even with the 197.13 WHQL drivers, if I activate dual GPU and Phyxs this is the result:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.28
Locale ID: 1033
Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 124
BCP1: 0000000000000000
BCP2: FFFFFA80030F38F8
BCP3: 0000000000000000
BCP4: 0000000000000000
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1
Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\032610-16520-01.dmp
C:\Users\malevolence\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-23712-0.sysdata.xml
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So the question now is, is the second GPU giving the BSOD or is the Phyxs ?
The problem is with one of them , stay tunned for the answer :P
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.28
Locale ID: 1033
Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 124
BCP1: 0000000000000000
BCP2: FFFFFA80030F38F8
BCP3: 0000000000000000
BCP4: 0000000000000000
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1
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So the question now is, is the second GPU giving the BSOD or is the Phyxs ?
The problem is with one of them , stay tunned for the answer :P
Elder III
That's a super heavy duty PSU you have - waaaay overkill in fact for the rest of your rig, and it's not likely - but do you have access to a second PSU that you can try out? I had a PSU that ran fine except when under a heavier load it would crash - turned out to be a faulty PSU. Now, I don't think that is the issue here, but if you have another PSU to test I'd try that.
If Physx does turn out to be the culprit I'd disable it and forget it - other than Arkham Assylum I don't know of any game that has noticeable improvement with it enabled.
did a wee bit of research and this is a direct quote from another forum;
"A BCCode 124 commonly refers to in previous cases of an overheating problem in the hardware somewhere. SLI with multicards tends to make this problem evident faster but still with only one card an issue of BCCode 124 points to heat/hardware failures (thereby crashing your system). Start by getting some good heat monitoring software on your computer to see if the heat being caused by them is creating this headache for you. CPUID Hardware Monitor is a good start.
There are many examples of ppl having BCCode 124 BSOD that is in direct relation to heating issues in their rig if you Google it.
Yes, it is possible something else besides this is the culprit but this seems to be the common thread amongst many users with a 124 BSOD. I would start from this area and go from there. At least exclude the fact its a heating issue so that's one less thing you need to worry about."
The most common answer to that error message is video driver related, which has been mentioned in this thread as well^^^. Now my question is, have you tried older drivers? Go back to the drivers prior to Nvidia 196.21 and also post the GPU temps whilst gaming/crashing if you can.
If Physx does turn out to be the culprit I'd disable it and forget it - other than Arkham Assylum I don't know of any game that has noticeable improvement with it enabled.
did a wee bit of research and this is a direct quote from another forum;
"A BCCode 124 commonly refers to in previous cases of an overheating problem in the hardware somewhere. SLI with multicards tends to make this problem evident faster but still with only one card an issue of BCCode 124 points to heat/hardware failures (thereby crashing your system). Start by getting some good heat monitoring software on your computer to see if the heat being caused by them is creating this headache for you. CPUID Hardware Monitor is a good start.
There are many examples of ppl having BCCode 124 BSOD that is in direct relation to heating issues in their rig if you Google it.
Yes, it is possible something else besides this is the culprit but this seems to be the common thread amongst many users with a 124 BSOD. I would start from this area and go from there. At least exclude the fact its a heating issue so that's one less thing you need to worry about."
The most common answer to that error message is video driver related, which has been mentioned in this thread as well^^^. Now my question is, have you tried older drivers? Go back to the drivers prior to Nvidia 196.21 and also post the GPU temps whilst gaming/crashing if you can.
malevolence
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Originally Posted by Elder III
That's a super heavy duty PSU you have - waaaay overkill in fact for the rest of your rig, and it's not likely - but do you have access to a second PSU that you can try out? I had a PSU that ran fine except when under a heavier load it would crash - turned out to be a faulty PSU. Now, I don't think that is the issue here, but if you have another PSU to test I'd try that.
If Physx does turn out to be the culprit I'd disable it and forget it - other than Arkham Assylum I don't know of any game that has noticeable improvement with it enabled. did a wee bit of research and this is a direct quote from another forum; "A BCCode 124 commonly refers to in previous cases of an overheating problem in the hardware somewhere. SLI with multicards tends to make this problem evident faster but still with only one card an issue of BCCode 124 points to heat/hardware failures (thereby crashing your system). Start by getting some good heat monitoring software on your computer to see if the heat being caused by them is creating this headache for you. CPUID Hardware Monitor is a good start. There are many examples of ppl having BCCode 124 BSOD that is in direct relation to heating issues in their rig if you Google it. Yes, it is possible something else besides this is the culprit but this seems to be the common thread amongst many users with a 124 BSOD. I would start from this area and go from there. At least exclude the fact its a heating issue so that's one less thing you need to worry about." The most common answer to that error message is video driver related, which has been mentioned in this thread as well^^^. Now my question is, have you tried older drivers? Go back to the drivers prior to Nvidia 196.21 and also post the GPU temps whilst gaming/crashing if you can. |
And about the old drivers , yeah , I tried old drivers , I was using 195.81 and 195.62 and it did crash the same way. So no driver related.
Thank you
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Any way how can I monitor my video temp while gaming ?
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http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/
malevolence
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when gaming. So far temps of the video card are not bad , so I can say CPU, RAM and Videocard are not overheating , so what then ? HDD ? Mobo ? Anyway , I will update temps when Physx and Multi-Gpu enabled.
Thanks.
PS: By the way , I cannot use Evga Precision with GW , GW crash way faster than AvP so it will be cool to test it
***EDIT***
Wow , found something funny , while plating GW my processor is going mad lol , its jumping from 2666MHZ to 1999MHZ every second , wtf is this ? The multiplier is going from 8.0 to 6.0.
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I'm gonna tell you something. Please, Please, Please don't use AvP3 for troubleshooting your rig. It is horrible un-optimized GARBAGE. It hasn't blue-screened me, but I can re-create a major memory leak by using the in-game settings alone. as far as physX goes. I don't use it. I pulled my dedicated card out months ago. just not worth it. (btw, I'm running 9800gtx+ sli'd). If it were me, I'd try and run 3dmark 06, or this to see if you can re-create the crash.
If your multiplier is jumping around, you(most likely) have some sort of power saving/clocking feature still enabled. I use precision with every game I play. Including GW/AvP3. I've yet to have it crash a game on me. /edit I suggest heading over to http://www.evga.com/forums/ and talk to people who use the 9800gx2 regularly. |
malevolence
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I'd also like to add that the drivers that have been put out in the last few months have been....less than stellar.
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It was with Physx and Multi-GPU enabled.
***EDIT***
Just had the same as mentioned above , but this time I didn't have Physx and Multi-GPU enabled
and after a BSOD Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.28
Locale ID: 1033
Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: fc
BCP1: FFFFF88001994000
BCP2: 800000007C356121
BCP3: FFFFF88002E58340
BCP4: 0000000000000002
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1
Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\032810-23930-01.dmp
C:\Users\malevolence\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-30934-0.sysdata.xml
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Elder III
Sure looks like overheating to me --- get a temp. monitoring program running - play a game for a little bit, and then alt + tab out of it and check your temp. right away before it has a few seconds to start cooling down from the gaming load.... post those temps here.
malevolence
1 hour of AvP
GPU Temp: 69 Degrees celcius
CPU: 36 Degrees celcius
HDD: 29 Degrees celcius
How can I check the Motherboard temp and Memory module temps ?
The last BSOD I had was too fast and couldn't read well , but as far as I remember it was saying something about watchdog.sys.
Now unchecked the option to automatic reboot when there is a BSOD so the next one I should be able to read all.
GPU Temp: 69 Degrees celcius
CPU: 36 Degrees celcius
HDD: 29 Degrees celcius
How can I check the Motherboard temp and Memory module temps ?
The last BSOD I had was too fast and couldn't read well , but as far as I remember it was saying something about watchdog.sys.
Now unchecked the option to automatic reboot when there is a BSOD so the next one I should be able to read all.
Aera
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***EDIT***
Wow , found something funny , while plating GW my processor is going mad lol , its jumping from 2666MHZ to 1999MHZ every second , wtf is this ? The multiplier is going from 8.0 to 6.0. |
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1 hour of AvP GPU Temp: 69 Degrees celcius CPU: 36 Degrees celcius HDD: 29 Degrees celcius How can I check the Motherboard temp and Memory module temps ? |
I don't think it's possible to read memory modules though, not sure.
As far as your problem: I think it's still a driver problem. Download Driver Sweeper: http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/ and install.
Uninstall your nVidia drivers, reboot in safemode (F8 while booting), run DriverSweeper, make it remove all the nVidia GPU remains ( and only that!) , reboot, install new drivers, reboot.
See if that helps
malevolence
Hi Aera ,
I have driver cleaner full version (paid) and the most strange of all , this all is on a fresh windows 7 install (reinstalled 2 times , formated HDD 2 times) and same results.
I was monitoring while playing GW and my temps are super good , after 3 hours of gameplay and running CPUID Hardware monitor in the back ground my temps were:
I don't see any overheating , while playing GW or AvP , my last BSOD was mentioning the file watchdog.sys and I searched on google.com but most of it is related to malware , I ran Malwarebytes in safemode and I cannot find any malware , I did find something (when I ran malwarebytes the first time , mentioned in a previous post) and it was the Hijack malware on a windows registry , now I noticed that sometimes , most of the times actually when I boot my PC windows get stuck while booting and after a reset its telling me to repair windows , windows found 2 files with problems and say it repaired , but this is happening at least once a day.
I tried 2 different windows 7 , one was windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits in spanish , then I tried windows 7 N Ultimate 64 bits in english. The crashes happened in both copies , but the error at booting I had it only with the english version.
Another thing is that if I look the errors log in windows , I see a lot , I mean hundreds of errors log and all of them are saying errors while windows is booting.
Maybe I should go back to vista ultimate 64 bits SP2 ,at least I didn't have all the booting errors with that windows.
Thank you
I have driver cleaner full version (paid) and the most strange of all , this all is on a fresh windows 7 install (reinstalled 2 times , formated HDD 2 times) and same results.
I was monitoring while playing GW and my temps are super good , after 3 hours of gameplay and running CPUID Hardware monitor in the back ground my temps were:
I don't see any overheating , while playing GW or AvP , my last BSOD was mentioning the file watchdog.sys and I searched on google.com but most of it is related to malware , I ran Malwarebytes in safemode and I cannot find any malware , I did find something (when I ran malwarebytes the first time , mentioned in a previous post) and it was the Hijack malware on a windows registry , now I noticed that sometimes , most of the times actually when I boot my PC windows get stuck while booting and after a reset its telling me to repair windows , windows found 2 files with problems and say it repaired , but this is happening at least once a day.
I tried 2 different windows 7 , one was windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits in spanish , then I tried windows 7 N Ultimate 64 bits in english. The crashes happened in both copies , but the error at booting I had it only with the english version.
Another thing is that if I look the errors log in windows , I see a lot , I mean hundreds of errors log and all of them are saying errors while windows is booting.
Maybe I should go back to vista ultimate 64 bits SP2 ,at least I didn't have all the booting errors with that windows.
Thank you
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I tried 2 different windows 7 , one was windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits in spanish , then I tried windows 7 N Ultimate 64 bits in english. The crashes happened in both copies , but the error at booting I had it only with the english version.
Another thing is that if I look the errors log in windows , I see a lot , I mean hundreds of errors log and all of them are saying errors while windows is booting. Maybe I should go back to vista ultimate 64 bits SP2 ,at least I didn't have all the booting errors with that windows. Thank you |
so many things I can say, but won't.
also, last time I saw a card act like that the person who brought it to me had an ungodly overclock on it, ran it for awhile, set it back to stock speeds, however, the damage was already done.
malevolence
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Originally Posted by flubber
blaming W7 for boot errors? when it's a trimmed down version? gotten via torrent? and probably cracked wrong/using crappy boot loader?
so many things I can say, but won't. also, last time I saw a card act like that the person who brought it to me had an ungodly overclock on it, ran it for awhile, set it back to stock speeds, however, the damage was already done. |
Elder III
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Originally Posted by flubber
blaming W7 for boot errors? when it's a trimmed down version? gotten via torrent? and probably cracked wrong/using crappy boot loader?
so many things I can say, but won't. also, last time I saw a card act like that the person who brought it to me had an ungodly overclock on it, ran it for awhile, set it back to stock speeds, however, the damage was already done. |
Quaker
I'd like to point out that, although the temperatures are "normal", some component could have a "thermal fault" that only shows up at "normal" temperatures.
That is to say, although the temps are normal, the problem could still be related to heat.
That is to say, although the temps are normal, the problem could still be related to heat.
malevolence
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Originally Posted by Elder III
Is this a hacked version of Windows??? If it is then you are just asking for trouble. I had a computer with a "pirated" version of XP once (no, it was not of my doing either) and it worked fine for a few months and then was nothing but problems after that. Once I formatted the HDD and installed my own, legal version of XP it worked like a charm. By all means, if you have a non "legal" version of Windows - change it to a good one and your troubles will likely go away.
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@ Quaker , you are right , but that is difficult to see now , I RMA this card because it was overheating , so maybe this one got the same but is not showing on the temps monitors.
gone
@ Elder, yes. Windows 7 N Ultimate 64 is a trimmed down, tweaked "scene" release.
Not sure if you know this or not Mal, but even though they have a lifetime warranty, all (depending on company) or most RMA'd cards/parts/etc..etc.. are replaced with refurbished items. I've had quite a few garbage items sent to me that were worst off then the Items I RMA'd in the first place.
just a head's up on that.
Not sure if you know this or not Mal, but even though they have a lifetime warranty, all (depending on company) or most RMA'd cards/parts/etc..etc.. are replaced with refurbished items. I've had quite a few garbage items sent to me that were worst off then the Items I RMA'd in the first place.
just a head's up on that.
Commander Kanen
I have had a simmilar problem like this, In the end i found it was a faulty ram slot.
Try only using 1 stick at a time and change the slots if it doesnt crash.
Try only using 1 stick at a time and change the slots if it doesnt crash.
rb.widow
I had this exact same problem with my 8800GTX's in SLI, when SLI was enabled when i started Guild Wars the picture was all messed up, a little bit like your pictures you posted, im guessing Guild Wars does not support SLI at all,
When i disabled the SLI i could play the game but would get random crashes, my screen would either freeze, like yours did, go all scrambled, or just black screen and system would reboot,
This went on and on until one night i turned on the system and had a beep could, which was a result of bad video ram, and alas the card is dead now, so far my remaining 8800 is still going.
Hope you get your problem sorted soon.
When i disabled the SLI i could play the game but would get random crashes, my screen would either freeze, like yours did, go all scrambled, or just black screen and system would reboot,
This went on and on until one night i turned on the system and had a beep could, which was a result of bad video ram, and alas the card is dead now, so far my remaining 8800 is still going.
Hope you get your problem sorted soon.
malevolence
it cannot be a bad slot the PC can survive and extensive stress test of all types without crashing or what so ever. If Ram , CPU or RAM slot was the problem I think I would noticed with all the test I ran. Still I think Video card is somewhat broken or bad video ram as rb.widow mentioned.
But right now, I am looking at other stuff, like the USB ports , changing keyboard, changing mouse, disconnecting my secondary HDD and disconnecting my DVD burner (IDE not SATA) , buyt the way I heard that sometimes connecting SATA drives & IDE drives can give problems too, but I disconnected the DVD burner.
So far , yesterday the computer worked perfect, played 1:20 hours of AvP in a row, after played C&C4 with some firends online for about 1 hour , and after I played AvP again for about 1 hour, no crashed, no errors etc.
So I am crossing my fingers that the issue was with the DVD burner connected to IDE, let's see how it goes today.
the PC can survive and extensive stress test of all types without crashing or what so ever. If Ram , CPU or RAM slot was the problem I think I would noticed with all the test I ran. Still I think Video card is somewhat broken or bad video ram as rb.widow mentioned.But right now, I am looking at other stuff, like the USB ports , changing keyboard, changing mouse, disconnecting my secondary HDD and disconnecting my DVD burner (IDE not SATA) , buyt the way I heard that sometimes connecting SATA drives & IDE drives can give problems too, but I disconnected the DVD burner.
So far , yesterday the computer worked perfect, played 1:20 hours of AvP in a row, after played C&C4 with some firends online for about 1 hour , and after I played AvP again for about 1 hour, no crashed, no errors etc.
So I am crossing my fingers that the issue was with the DVD burner connected to IDE, let's see how it goes today.
Tharg
funny you should mention that. My son's pc (I built it myself) started having freeze-ups. I could not figure it out, also started with blaming the video card. Nothing helped until I disconnected the SATA DVD burner - then it worked like a charm again. Hmm....
rb.widow
Download 3dmark05 or 3dmark06 and run that in a loop, if your card has got bad ram, it will not survive the test it will put it threw it will force the crash and probably rather fast at that, i ran 3dmark05 to test a 6800Ultra card back in the day.
malevolence
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Download 3dmark05 or 3dmark06 and run that in a loop, if your card has got bad ram, it will not survive the test it will put it threw it will force the crash and probably rather fast at that, i ran 3dmark05 to test a 6800Ultra card back in the day.
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Good idea, I will get one of the 3dmark's benchmarks.
Just for an update , yesterday installed a fresh windows 7 again , just to make sure. Updated Asus Modo drivers to the lstest ones. Updated nvidia video drivers (newest one). Installed Rivatuner and changed GPU fan to 100%. Installed steam and downloaded AvP. Then I was too tired yesterday, so I went to sleep and let the PC downloading AvP through steam , then it was in idle for about 7 hours . I came back and found the computer in sleep mode ? (I forgot to change power settings) , so I press a key and the computer awakes , but not the Fan of the GPU , it wasn't at 100% (I can tell because of the noise) and steam window opened , so just before closing steam, the old , same error appeared , the mouse pointer artifacting and following that a black screen and finally the PC restarting, no blue screen or error message.
Today I will install my legal copy of Vista and see if it's giving me the same error , but before that , I will test with 3dmark
malevolence
Hello, just in case , can anyone recommend me a good power supply for my system ? I know I have a good one , but I need to try my system with a different one to make sure my power supply is ok. Thank you.