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iTzF3aR

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

Blackwood Knights [BWK] Graveyard guild, RIP Guild Wars.

A/

04 Apr 2010 at 12:34 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

Apparently thou doth not remember the good ole days when you actually had to figure things out on your own. No pvx or wiki to tell you how to wipe your own A$$. I'm kind of glad they don't post exactly what is going on so people can't go 1-2-3-4 something and done.

That's right, because you can 1234 your way into a mysterious campsite (that has no use as of now) out in the middle of nowhere in Kryta, right ? To most players they have NO IDEA such things take place mostly because for one, they took this update right after the April 1st prank which led a lot of players to believe that the update had the original build prior to April 1st. They could have given out a LOT more hints to the casual gamers.

Leohan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

R/

04 Apr 2010 at 15:19 - 122

I just need to make clear that anything said is all just forum talk, there is no real 100% fact yet about what is going to happen on April 23rd.
I was just trying to make some small points in how I understood things so far, if people think I made some mistakes than that's what the forum is for.

The EOTN completion is a theory I read on Guru2's 114 page topic on this so far so my information maybe a little outdated since yesterday.

@Garreth MacLeod, thank you for bringing that thread to my attention.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

05 Apr 2010 at 02:03 - 123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missmelady

Actually Im pretty sure that anet cares they just need someway to make money. With a lack of new players coming into the game anet has no way to make money other then to offer microtransactions in the form of costumes now. It is either anet offers these transactions or we don't play a game anymore. Not only do they need the money to maintain gw1 servers they need the money for devolpment of gw2.

This gets trotted out all the time as if it's an excuse.

If Anet has no way of making money to develop GW2 besides Macro-transactions (not a typo, look up "microtransaction"), it's their own bloody fault. They made an error in allocating too many development resources to GW2 at the expense of GW1, probably because they underestimated the time it would take to complete GW2, or they grossly overestimated the time that minor content addition that was EotN would keep people interested.

Now they push disproportionately-priced "perks" (including ones that affect gameplay) and beseech us to support them so they can finish GW2, about which they still won't give us any information resembling something concrete. If they're this far in and still haven't determined things like how the HoM is going to tie in or what the combat system will be like, then there's no way the project can do anything but crater. And even Anet isn't that bad (I hope) which says they know they're just keeping it to themselves.

Do I have a problem with things like costumes available for microtransactions? Hell no. But when a costume costs $8, someone is smoking some really good stuff.

I'd say being jaded/cynical about the birthday update is more than warranted at this point. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 5 times...

Allamorph

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

The Basement

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

E/Me

05 Apr 2010 at 02:15 - 124

You people talk about a lack of new players as if it's fact.

It's not. Also hi.

c1team

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Homelands

05 Apr 2010 at 04:22 - 125

Do we have an IRC channel for all this #dismantle #obey?

St??phane Lo Presti

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2010

Seattle

05 Apr 2010 at 17:09 - 126

Just in case it wasn't mentioned before, a good summary of the story so far:
http://www.massively.com/2010/04/05/...keirans-got-a/

Obey or Dismantle?

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

05 Apr 2010 at 17:53 - 127

Why are people on facebook typing #dismantle and #obey? Does that # signify anything?

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

05 Apr 2010 at 17:58 - 128

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzjudz

Why are people on facebook typing #dismantle and #obey? Does that # signify anything?

I think it has something to do with some Anet twitter update awhile back. I'm not too familiar with twitter, but usually people sign their names with "#namehere" on twitter.

Ariena Najea

Silence and Motion

Join Date: Jul 2006

Buffalo NY

New Horizon [NH]

05 Apr 2010 at 18:25 - 129

The #Dismantle/#Obey is part of a forum game here on GW1G and GW2G.

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

05 Apr 2010 at 18:52 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by iTzF3aR

That's right, because you can 1234 your way into a mysterious campsite (that has no use as of now) out in the middle of nowhere in Kryta, right ? To most players they have NO IDEA such things take place mostly because for one, they took this update right after the April 1st prank which led a lot of players to believe that the update had the original build prior to April 1st. They could have given out a LOT more hints to the casual gamers.

As soon as a new big (gameplay?) update gets implemented, the one all these forum games and little updates are leading up to, I'm sure Anet will broadcast it for everyone to see.

In the meantime, the people who are scouring the wiki, facebook and fora are getting a deserved teaser taste of things to come.

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

05 Apr 2010 at 18:53 - 131

I haven't seen any game on guru? Guess I need to browse other forums outside Q&A, riverside and farming

.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

05 Apr 2010 at 18:56 - 132

# affixed words are hashtags, which in Twitter are 'To group posts together by topic or type'.

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

05 Apr 2010 at 19:07 - 133

Alright, but what does facebook have to do with twitter? (sorry for my stupid questions, I'm no facebook or twitter pro

).

P.S. I know how twitter works with hashtags now (thanks for the post below me), but still: why do people post with # on facebook?

Emily Diehl

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

ArenaNet Home Base

N/Me

05 Apr 2010 at 19:14 - 134

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowerpoke

# affixed words are hashtags, which in Twitter are 'To group posts together by topic or type'.

Yep! Like slowerpoke said, hashtags are special tags for Twitter that help group bits of content together (kind of like tags on blogs or forums). If someone tweets something with a # in front of it, Twitter turns that into a link, and you can click it to get a list of all tweets that include the phrase. So if I tweeted something like "I like #bacon", you could click on the "#bacon" to see who else is talking about this tasty meat

The cool thing is that these tags are tracked, so if a ton of people start using the same hashtags in their posts, it may cause the topic to becoming a "trending topic". Trending topics appear on a list on the main site, so you can see the hot topics that people across the site are talking about.

Here's a link to a cool Twitter help article that explains the system in a little more detail.

And now you know! (As a sidenote, I'll probably post random bits of info like this on occasion, because I personally geek out over social stuff like this

)

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

05 Apr 2010 at 19:20 - 135

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

I sure would appreciate one of the Community Managers giving us a clear idea of what needs done in order to trigger the dialogue between Thackeray and Gwen, the Shining Blade Camp in Talmark Wilderness, and any future things such as these. Restricting players' access to this new content on account of not knowing for certain how to get to it is not nice... not that I think they're restricting this information on purpose (read: to be spiteful), but it would probably eliminate a lot of concerns and theorycrafting on how to activate these things to just be told how it works.

To see the dialogue between Gwen and Keiran, you must have completed either the Wintersday quests involving them, or Eye of the North. There is no out-of-game component required to trigger this (e.g. we were not waiting for something to happen on social networks before this was added to the game).

To see the Shining Blade Camp in Talmark Wilderness, you must have completed Prophecies or Eye of the North. We were not waiting for any sort of external trigger (on social networks, for example) before adding that to the actual game.

Those two in-game additions were scheduled by the Live Team. We on the Community Team and on Web have been running a small-scale teaser campaign (as you may have seen on Guild Wars 2 Guru) to support Live Team additions to the game. You will see in the coming weeks that the web site will have some more content that will support whatever it is the Live Team has in store for later in the month...

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

05 Apr 2010 at 19:21 - 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzjudz

I haven't seen any game on guru? Guess I need to browse other forums outside Q&A, riverside and farming

.

See the first post on this thread.

The game hasn't really taken hold here as much as it did on Guild Wars 2 Guru, for some reason.

OzmaIX

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

Vancouver, BC

Theatre of Babil

Rt/

05 Apr 2010 at 19:34 - 137

People people people.. people people people people
Something has to be driving the white mantle still, how else could they still have power? lol
Go Mursaat >

Anakita Snakecharm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Shining Blade Camp

Nouvel Ordre de Phoenix [MJM]

R/Mo

05 Apr 2010 at 19:40 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

To see the Shining Blade Camp in Talmark Wilderness, you must have completed Prophecies. We were not waiting for any sort of external trigger (on social networks, for example) before adding that to the actual game.

Some people (including one of my guildmates who I know is trustworthy) are reporting being able to see the camp after completing EotN instead of Prophecies. Is this an error, or should that be considered another legitimate option for seeing it?

I only use one character and have done the three campaigns and the expansion with her, so I'm not asking for myself, I know I'm fine and I've seen the camp-- just asking for general forum information purposes.

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

05 Apr 2010 at 19:42 - 139

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

To see the dialogue between Gwen and Keiran, you must have completed either the Wintersday quests involving them, or Eye of the North. There is no out-of-game component required to trigger this (e.g. we were not waiting for something to happen on social networks before this was added to the game).

To see the Shining Blade Camp in Talmark Wilderness, you must have completed Prophecies. We were not waiting for any sort of external trigger (on social networks, for example) before adding that to the actual game.

Those two in-game additions were scheduled by the Live Team. We on the Community Team and on Web have been running a small-scale teaser campaign (as you may have seen on Guild Wars 2 Guru) to support Live Team additions to the game. You will see in the coming weeks that the web site will have some more content that will support whatever it is the Live Team has in store for later in the month...

Oh, so you can do the quest without having completed the Wintersday thing? cool, I thought I had missed out

#Dismantle

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

05 Apr 2010 at 21:00 - 140

It wouldve sucked so bad if it did. But I also wonder if this quests is limited to some date.
Am betting there will be more quests, perhaps a follow up on this GW soap.

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

05 Apr 2010 at 21:16 - 141

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anakita Snakecharm

Some people (including one of my guildmates who I know is trustworthy) are reporting being able to see the camp after completing EotN instead of Prophecies. Is this an error, or should that be considered another legitimate option for seeing it?

I only use one character and have done the three campaigns and the expansion with her, so I'm not asking for myself, I know I'm fine and I've seen the camp-- just asking for general forum information purposes.

I can confirm this. I'm in the camp as I'm writing this on my assassin, who has completed eotn but not prophecies.

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

05 Apr 2010 at 21:35 - 142

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anakita Snakecharm

Some people (including one of my guildmates who I know is trustworthy) are reporting being able to see the camp after completing EotN instead of Prophecies. Is this an error, or should that be considered another legitimate option for seeing it?

I only use one character and have done the three campaigns and the expansion with her, so I'm not asking for myself, I know I'm fine and I've seen the camp-- just asking for general forum information purposes.

I just double checked this with Linsey, and you are correct. You can complete either Prophecies or Eye of the North to see the Shining Blade Camp in Talmark Wilderness. I will edit my previous response so that it's clearer. Thanks.

Anakita Snakecharm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Shining Blade Camp

Nouvel Ordre de Phoenix [MJM]

R/Mo

05 Apr 2010 at 21:39 - 143

Thanks for clarifying, Regina.

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

05 Apr 2010 at 23:32 - 144

Thanks for all of those clarifications, Regina.

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

06 Apr 2010 at 02:19 - 145

I just /kneeled in front of Salma and freaked.... then I rememberd the avatar of dwayna always appears

Been so long since I've visited ToA.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

06 Apr 2010 at 05:33 - 146

well after reading up on what Inde posted (the recap) I dont think I want to go with the white mantle....
so

#dismantle it is for me

the mouse has made her decision
/sigh

wilson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

aggro bubble

[RD];[FW];[GOTS];[baed];[kiSu]

06 Apr 2010 at 07:04 - 147

#dismantle
it is.

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

06 Apr 2010 at 08:44 - 148

Gonna have to wait and see, if we get a chance at new armors I'm going for Obey. If not I'll probably Dismantle

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

06 Apr 2010 at 08:59 - 149

If this is pvp, the obey side could get a little undermanned. So i guess i step to the dark side.

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

06 Apr 2010 at 11:08 - 150

Does anyone else find the irony in the Mursaat being the featured article on Wiki?

I'unno... either way..

#Obey.

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

N/

06 Apr 2010 at 11:23 - 151

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyperventilate

Does anyone else find the irony in the Mursaat being the featured article on Wiki?

I'unno... either way..

#Obey.

The wiki is maintained by players, not devs. You also need to find out what irony is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes - massive thread in GW2G

That was my doing. ^^ Well, kind of. It was either Miniatures or Mursaat for these two weeks, and Mursaat fits with MantleCon and this stuff happening, and Miniatures fit with the 5th birthday, so let it come in 2 weeks so it is up on the 28th.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/...postcount=2649

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

06 Apr 2010 at 13:41 - 152

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

To see the dialogue between Gwen and Keiran, you must have completed either the Wintersday quests involving them, or Eye of the North. There is no out-of-game component required to trigger this (e.g. we were not waiting for something to happen on social networks before this was added to the game).

To see the Shining Blade Camp in Talmark Wilderness, you must have completed Prophecies or Eye of the North. We were not waiting for any sort of external trigger (on social networks, for example) before adding that to the actual game.

Those two in-game additions were scheduled by the Live Team. We on the Community Team and on Web have been running a small-scale teaser campaign (as you may have seen on Guild Wars 2 Guru) to support Live Team additions to the game. You will see in the coming weeks that the web site will have some more content that will support whatever it is the Live Team has in store for later in the month...

This seems incorrect or at least bugged then, as my Rit has not completed EotN and only did one Wintersday quest, yet still obtained all the speech by themselves.

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

06 Apr 2010 at 15:29 - 153

*giggles evil like* i wil side with who ever has the best looking armor. *looks left then right* and who ever gives me 250e. *runs off laughing*

Allamorph

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

The Basement

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

E/Me

06 Apr 2010 at 21:19 - 154

If it's obvious that the two colored spots are the factions' banners I don't need to say much more about that. Only thing I can think otherwise that might be of use was that when I looked at the blurred banner section of the image....

...I noticed that the white pattern on it seems to be skewed, and if you turn it ninety degrees clockwise, it appears to be close to the correct orientation for the real banner.

Judging by the similarities of the white portions, I'd say that the second image was merely the first one flipped and made less obscured, and that the actual bottom of the image is either the left or the right side; given that it's Mantle versus Blade and given how graphic designers like to orient things, I'd say the Blade's banner would be on bottom of the image, but I haven't got any reasoning beyond that which I'd actually trust.

If that's true, though, then the white portions would seem to be glare coming from the side of the image. That makes me want to say the image is a screen from a location in-game. Beyond that I run into to many mental 'variables' and not enough viable reasoning to be worth sharing.

Orual Fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Here

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] Alliance

R/

06 Apr 2010 at 22:06 - 155

Is it possible....that the 2 banners in the fuzzy picture are actually just there to prevent us from seeing what the true picture is? Yes, we know that (98%) they are the banners, but what if they are they to just cover up a more important part of the picture? Just a thought.

Allamorph

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

The Basement

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

E/Me

06 Apr 2010 at 22:36 - 156

I reason that if it's a promo ad, which it very likely is, then the image would also serve as part of the viral deal and be intended for player use, meaning the banners are the focal point, and that anything they might 'obstruct' wouldn't interfere with the background's clue.

Kityn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Michigan

Heroes of the Horn [HoH]

N/

06 Apr 2010 at 22:59 - 157

Those appear to be figures above each banner. Right side for Shining Blade and Left for White Mantle each facing off the other. No idea what is in the middle of them.

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

06 Apr 2010 at 23:38 - 158

Wow. No need to get so touchy. I never said it was manipulated by the devs, so you can take back your assumptions.

i·ro·ny:

an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

So much going on with the Shining Blade and suddenly a Mursaat feature. There lies the irony.

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

07 Apr 2010 at 00:54 - 159

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kityn

Those appear to be figures above each banner. Right side for Shining Blade and Left for White Mantle each facing off the other. No idea what is in the middle of them.

Current theory is that it is a manatee.

englitdaudelin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

East Coast

Soldier's Union [SU]

N/Me

07 Apr 2010 at 01:14 - 160

9:13 p.m. Went out to see village with guildies.

No camp, and trees were burned down.

Currrrrriiiiioooousss

*doink. Mates took toons later that had FINISHED proph, and the camp was there.