Ideas on drunkard title/discussion
Terrible Surgeon
Why not have a double drunkard points weekend? Would be great to see every player in gw stand around doing nothing but "IT SPINNING!!" plus its by far the worst title to try to max....DOUBLE DRUNK POINT WEEKEND FTW!!!
Archress Shayleigh
ftl. It's not a hard title to max, just need some cash, knowledge on how to do the mapping thing, or just playing alot. It's one of the easiest titles to max, just takes a little while. No need to make it cheaper and less time investing needed. It's simple enough as is.
M @ T
That wouldn't make it really fair for other people who have maxed it already. On the other hand it is such a boring title to max when you have to just spam double click.. I think my right indexer has fallen off already and I still need around 4k lol.
So, egoistically speaking, /signed -_-
So, egoistically speaking, /signed -_-
Shadowhaze
/signed
Less grind is a nice thing indeed. ;P
Less grind is a nice thing indeed. ;P
Sharkinu
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Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon
its by far the worst title to try to max
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Really is not that hard. You can drink booze while chatting in GH or in an outpost with some friends. You can drink while spamming in spamadon. You can drink while playing.
I'm at 9500 minutes right now and the hardest part was getting the booze.
/not signed
Crassus Praetor
It is definitely not the worst title to max, however it would be useful to many people.
Being unfair to those who maxed it, in this case, simply isn't a good enough reason not to implement it. If it were to be implemented I would look on it as an improvement.
Those who have maxed the title should not worry about what others are doing, they have done all the hard work and have claimed their "reward".
I hate all this signed/not signed rubbish, but I would like it without feeling jealous or envious of those who would soon have an easier time than I did.
It is selfish to say that other cannot have anything that you cannot benefit from yourself.
Being unfair to those who maxed it, in this case, simply isn't a good enough reason not to implement it. If it were to be implemented I would look on it as an improvement.
Those who have maxed the title should not worry about what others are doing, they have done all the hard work and have claimed their "reward".
I hate all this signed/not signed rubbish, but I would like it without feeling jealous or envious of those who would soon have an easier time than I did.
It is selfish to say that other cannot have anything that you cannot benefit from yourself.
MarkusParkus
/Signed Less Grind FTW
Kook~NBK~
It's not hard to max - at all. It's a bit time consuming, but there are ways to cut down on that: Drinking a little here and there while forming groups, selling stuff, buying more booze *hic*, and while out doing missions or vanquishing adds up pretty fast. (Turn down your graphics setting to disable the drunk effects, easy-peasy!)
/not shigned!
/not shigned!
Shayne Hawke
Double it all you want, I'm not touching that title until it gets turned into points-on-consumption.
MagmaRed
/unsigned
We do not need reasons to make the game easier, faster, shorter, etc. The title is not hard to work on. As mentioned, you can work on it while doing ANYTHING else, and some of those things provide benefits for being drunk (PvE skills). The ONLY thing it takes is time. All the booze you need to max the title is available for free through quest rewards (Imperial Commendations, Kournan Coins, etc.), weekend drops (Grog, Shamrock Ale, etc.), or collectors (Gift of the Huntsman, Gift of the Traveler, etc.).
We do not need reasons to make the game easier, faster, shorter, etc. The title is not hard to work on. As mentioned, you can work on it while doing ANYTHING else, and some of those things provide benefits for being drunk (PvE skills). The ONLY thing it takes is time. All the booze you need to max the title is available for free through quest rewards (Imperial Commendations, Kournan Coins, etc.), weekend drops (Grog, Shamrock Ale, etc.), or collectors (Gift of the Huntsman, Gift of the Traveler, etc.).
TheSackMaster
/no bunch of auto clickers ftw? no thanks
Cursed Harbinger
nice idear but.. I think u would have to double the rate u got points. That way u have to spend the same gold but takes half as long. /not signed
Yawgmoth
You had years full of different events with alcohol drops and a full year of Nicholas providing loads aswell. And they're not ending, it's likely there will be even more sources added.
Seriously, it's not a hard title at all and it's already the cheapest of the 3 consumable titles by a large margin. Cutting that in half sounds absurd.
Oh, have I mentioned that YOU DON'T NEED the title for anything in game? It's fully optional even if you call it grind.
I don't have this title myself yet (slowly progressing), but I'm always against lame ideas that only make some part of the game unnecessarily easier, trying to "fix" what's not broken and instead ruining much more.
The only good way it could be made easier without ruining it or anything else is adding an icon showing the drunk effect with a duration bar. But even that's not needed. A worthy drunkard should learn the tastes and effects of all alcohols he drinks so he can know his drunk level from just the way the screen swirls. I can do that, it's easier than you think.
Bad bad horribad idea, would only badly hurt the rewads of many events and value of Nick's gifts.
/NOTSIGNED
Seriously, it's not a hard title at all and it's already the cheapest of the 3 consumable titles by a large margin. Cutting that in half sounds absurd.
Oh, have I mentioned that YOU DON'T NEED the title for anything in game? It's fully optional even if you call it grind.
I don't have this title myself yet (slowly progressing), but I'm always against lame ideas that only make some part of the game unnecessarily easier, trying to "fix" what's not broken and instead ruining much more.
The only good way it could be made easier without ruining it or anything else is adding an icon showing the drunk effect with a duration bar. But even that's not needed. A worthy drunkard should learn the tastes and effects of all alcohols he drinks so he can know his drunk level from just the way the screen swirls. I can do that, it's easier than you think.
Bad bad horribad idea, would only badly hurt the rewads of many events and value of Nick's gifts.
/NOTSIGNED
aspi
Signed, the reason it would not be fair for players who allready maxed this title is not a very good one. The game has changed before for maxing titles so why not this one. The EOTN titles are the easiest to get yet there is a special weekend for it. Why not double party and double drunk.
Beta Sprite
While I do wish that the drunkard track was easier to get, I don't think that a weekend that doubles the points would be a good thing at this point. I understand having weekends that double points that are purely grind, but for the consumable titles, that means a lot of money to a lot of players that have already done it.
So, I sympathize, but I can't agree. /unsigned
So, I sympathize, but I can't agree. /unsigned
rokocoko
Drunkard, Sweet Tooth and Party Animal should stay as they are.
/unsigned, but please, add an icon/timer for the drunk level
/unsigned, but please, add an icon/timer for the drunk level
WarcryOfTruth
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That wouldn't make it really fair for other people who have maxed it already.
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Originally Posted by WarcryOfTruth
Neither was changing the way Luxon/Kurzick faction can be obtained, but they changed those.
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Also, it doesn't cost you gold to earn those titles, just time. In fact, speed clearing will gain you gold while you work on it. That's different from making all alcohol worth double points temporarily.
dsielschott
is it that unheard-of to make a weekend event for doubling things....
this weekend we are doubling lightbringer and sunspear points.... how many of u grinded to get those titles without these events.... same with savior title
also they had an event when Ghalie left that doubled your party points, y not make a day to double drunkard points,..... o lets say October Fest!..... and well today just happens to be National chocolate covered raisens day so oddly enough this could work as your double sweets day.....
point is they have done it with other titles.... y not this one... either way I will get this one maxed just would be nice if it went a little faster.... i mean i have vanquished NF, and Factions, and still only have 5000 minutes.... i dont think it will take 5000 more to finish up Tyria....
this weekend we are doubling lightbringer and sunspear points.... how many of u grinded to get those titles without these events.... same with savior title
also they had an event when Ghalie left that doubled your party points, y not make a day to double drunkard points,..... o lets say October Fest!..... and well today just happens to be National chocolate covered raisens day so oddly enough this could work as your double sweets day.....
point is they have done it with other titles.... y not this one... either way I will get this one maxed just would be nice if it went a little faster.... i mean i have vanquished NF, and Factions, and still only have 5000 minutes.... i dont think it will take 5000 more to finish up Tyria....
lishi
I don't think this kinda of double weekend promote people playing
Shadowhaze
Don't they have double lucky/unlucky also (coupled with pick drop increase)? Those titles tie in with others and cost money also. Just saying. 
And really, the fair arguement doesn't cut it. Lots of things aren't fair, but the company will do whatever it wants. People either keep playing or not.
Really at this point in the game, I'm not seeing them making monumental changes in either the game or weekend evets though.
And really, the fair arguement doesn't cut it. Lots of things aren't fair, but the company will do whatever it wants. People either keep playing or not.
Really at this point in the game, I'm not seeing them making monumental changes in either the game or weekend evets though.
cognophile
/notsigned
I recommend drinking booze while vanquishing.
Don't cheapen the meaning of my drunkard title!
I recommend drinking booze while vanquishing.
Don't cheapen the meaning of my drunkard title!
Inzilbeth
/notsigned
As others have said, it's really not a hard title to max. I'm working on my 5th drunkard title.
Get yourself a kitchen timer and go play
As others have said, it's really not a hard title to max. I'm working on my 5th drunkard title.
Get yourself a kitchen timer and go play
dhawke20
I'm not really the type to socialize and stand around selling things in outposts, so the comment about drinking while doing this does not sound appealing to me. So from that standpoint, I do agree that the drunkard title is a pain.
However... it IS a title... it shouldn't be an overnight thing. I think the weekend idea wouldn't be that bad, it's just a weekend. I doubt anyone could max out the drunkard title in one weekend unless they literally spent the entire weekend, day and night, playing the game.
/signed
However... it IS a title... it shouldn't be an overnight thing. I think the weekend idea wouldn't be that bad, it's just a weekend. I doubt anyone could max out the drunkard title in one weekend unless they literally spent the entire weekend, day and night, playing the game.
/signed
Tenebrae
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Don't they have double lucky/unlucky also (coupled with pick drop increase)? Those titles tie in with others and cost money also. Just saying.
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Just saying this is a thread to make that title easier for the sake of it .... as many others asking for double sweet or party or perma double fact gain weekends.
/notsigned.
Terrible Surgeon
nah, i think a lot reading this are missing the point i wanted to make. What im saying is GW has weekends all the time that are double [insert title name here] points. So why not a drunk weekend? Its true you have to acquire alcohol by farming it or buying it, but its no different than the double lucky/unlucky weekends that come around every so often.
Also, as far as being "fair" goes what about people that only do RA or other hard to grind titles that actually require skill...those titles have double point weekends....Would just be awesome to see a ton of people on the weekend getting their characters blitzed.
So i am guessing you don't support any double point weekends? Or are you just a advocate for no double point weekends for drunkard? And its not making the title permanently easier to achieve. It's just a weekend event.
Also, as far as being "fair" goes what about people that only do RA or other hard to grind titles that actually require skill...those titles have double point weekends....Would just be awesome to see a ton of people on the weekend getting their characters blitzed.
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No , lucky title is not a money sink anymore. You cant purchase that title from another player. Money sinks = Drunkard , Sweet Tooth , Party Animal. You could say EOTN faction titles are also a money sink if you pay a runner bla bla bla , and lucky is money sink because you afk in rings bla bla but not the same.
Just saying this is a thread to make that title easier for the sake of it .... as many others asking for double sweet or party or perma double fact gain weekends. /notsigned. |
Shadowhaze
Technically you don't purchase titles from any player. ;P You buy the items for the title (or get them from drops) - booze, sweets, picks if someone should decide to do chest running, etc. Lucky/unlucky/etc. may not be a money sink in the fashion of other titles, but it still requires an investment.
But in anycase back on track! lol.
With the life of the game these days, I see no problem in things like these kinds of weekends. It might boost alcohol sales in preperation for an upcoming event or some other things...who knows? But as I said, most likely won't happen.
But in anycase back on track! lol.
With the life of the game these days, I see no problem in things like these kinds of weekends. It might boost alcohol sales in preperation for an upcoming event or some other things...who knows? But as I said, most likely won't happen.
Tenebrae
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Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon
So i am guessing you don't support any double point weekends? Or are you just a advocate for no double point weekends for drunkard? And its not making the title permanently easier to achieve. It's just a weekend event.
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A 10x weekend lucky would be "just a weekend event" but it would make title easier for those who had the chance to play it. Its no excuse that this is not "making the title permanently easier" , its just that theres no reason to do it , none except "i want my title faster" and reasons like that are not valid reasons to do something.
Lucky events are for an account wide title that has relevance ( rises your % of retaining a lockpick ) , LB/SS have skills that depend on that , Allegiance as well does ...... drunkard does not. Like i said before , no valid reason to do this imo.
Lord Dagon
eh id be in the crowd that kinda would get a little mad at a double alcohol weekend( im at 100minutes to go till r2). But, anything that can reduce grind for others and such id be happy about. I know how bad that title is( its incredibly boring to just sit there and talk w/ people all day) so i feel bad for people that have to go through with the title.
so /sign. I'd be mad that I didnt get my drunkard title with this weekend and save alot of money, but I'd be happy that other players got their titles easier ^_^.
so /sign. I'd be mad that I didnt get my drunkard title with this weekend and save alot of money, but I'd be happy that other players got their titles easier ^_^.
raddish
Although I'd love to see this happen, I think its very unrealistic. As mentioned before, the title really isn't that hard to max if you just play the game lots and drink all the time. As well as this, It would do a large number of things:
-Muck up the already failing economy
-Be unfair on anyone who had already max
-Make people go "We want double party! We want double sweets! We want double.... /yawn
Yes, it'd be nice and save us all some time, but it'd hurt the game too much, therefore /unsigned
-Muck up the already failing economy
-Be unfair on anyone who had already max
-Make people go "We want double party! We want double sweets! We want double.... /yawn
Yes, it'd be nice and save us all some time, but it'd hurt the game too much, therefore /unsigned
Terrible Surgeon
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Although I'd love to see this happen, I think its very unrealistic. As mentioned before, the title really isn't that hard to max if you just play the game lots and drink all the time. As well as this, It would do a large number of things:
-Muck up the already failing economy -Be unfair on anyone who had already max -Make people go "We want double party! We want double sweets! We want double.... /yawn Yes, it'd be nice and save us all some time, but it'd hurt the game too much, therefore /unsigned |
So both arguments made yourself and tennebrau against a double alcohol weekend are pretty weak. Tennebrau [sorry bc i know i misspelled that]says the drunkard title has no purpose whereas SS and LB do because these titles affect skills in the game. HOWEVER, titles like glad, champ, or any other similar titles have no actual in-game affect, but they have double weekends. So saying no to this idea because it would be unfair is a very weak argument as well as claiming it would muck up the GW economy.
Tenebrae
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Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon
Fairness has nothing to do with it. Life in general isn't fair. I didn't think it was fair that people could grind HB on double reward weekends and get a title and the same can be said for RA gladiator point double weekends.
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So both arguments made yourself and tennebrau against a double alcohol weekend are pretty weak. Tennebrau [sorry bc i know i misspelled that]says the drunkard title has no purpose whereas SS and LB do because these titles affect skills in the game. HOWEVER, titles like glad, champ, or any other similar titles have no actual in-game affect, but they have double weekends. So saying no to this idea because it would be unfair is a very weak argument as well as claiming it would muck up the GW economy.
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Dude you still are missing the point , the point is that you are making a suggestion to DO something , therefore YOU have to give a valid and logical reason to do it besides "i want my title faster" and the truth is .... you didnt give any.
It doesnt matter if you find our arguments weak , they are not. We are just telling you why do we think this shouldnt be done . Hope i made myself clear ; if you have a strong , logical and undeniable reason or fact to argue in favor of making a weekend like this , please feel free to tell us .
PS: And before you think about saying "many ppl agree with me bla bla" i´ll tell you that no , that doesnt work.
Terrible Surgeon
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This isnt life , this is a game and fariness and balance may have little importance to you but they have a value that "i want my title faster" can never match. Fact.
Double Glad , Champ and whatever are PvP titles , totally diff stuff and like i told you , account wide titles are also diff. Dude you still are missing the point , the point is that you are making a suggestion to DO something , therefore YOU have to give a valid and logical reason to do it besides "i want my title faster" and the truth is .... you didnt give any. It doesnt matter if you find our arguments weak , they are not. We are just telling you why do we think this shouldnt be done . Hope i made myself clear ; if you have a strong , logical and undeniable reason or fact to argue in favor of making a weekend like this , please feel free to tell us . PS: And before you think about saying "many ppl agree with me bla bla" i´ll tell you that no , that doesnt work. |
jonnieboi05
3 days shaved off for people botting-- I mean EARNING-- their drunkard title? Sure! Why not? :]
Diab Soule
Drunkard is not that hard anyway, you can just zone from town to guild hall, back to town and get points easy, though some places work better than others. That is how I did it and got the title maxed in a few days. You might as well try, you don't lose anything by zoning.
Shayera
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That wouldn't make it really fair for other people who have maxed it already. On the other hand it is such a boring title to max when you have to just spam double click.. I think my right indexer has fallen off already and I still need around 4k lol.
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And for the record. I'll get my titles eventually with or without the double weekends
Angela Sitsonit
So with all the festivals and nicholas there is still not enough booze to be farmed or on the market ?
I keep hearing less grind is good and i have a solution for that.
If GW2 will have a title rank as in GW1 they should come out with the gwamm Edition, then all you have to do is press /gwamm and there you go.
it would be in lowercase so everybody can see you did it the less grind way but that shouldn't matter should it ?
And for the rest of us that actually have done the work for it we'll just get the title when we have earned it and that would be in uppercase GWAMM.
Making the titles easier to get using the grind excuse makes the titles worthless and is getting a little old.
Or you go for the titles or not, it's as simple as that.
I keep hearing less grind is good and i have a solution for that.
If GW2 will have a title rank as in GW1 they should come out with the gwamm Edition, then all you have to do is press /gwamm and there you go.
it would be in lowercase so everybody can see you did it the less grind way but that shouldn't matter should it ?
And for the rest of us that actually have done the work for it we'll just get the title when we have earned it and that would be in uppercase GWAMM.
Making the titles easier to get using the grind excuse makes the titles worthless and is getting a little old.
Or you go for the titles or not, it's as simple as that.
Terrible Surgeon
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So with all the festivals and nicholas there is still not enough booze to be farmed or on the market ?
I keep hearing less grind is good and i have a solution for that. If GW2 will have a title rank as in GW1 they should come out with the gwamm Edition, then all you have to do is press /gwamm and there you go. it would be in lowercase so everybody can see you did it the less grind way but that shouldn't matter should it ? And for the rest of us that actually have done the work for it we'll just get the title when we have earned it and that would be in uppercase GWAMM. Making the titles easier to get using the grind excuse makes the titles worthless and is getting a little old. Or you go for the titles or not, it's as simple as that. |
Thanks for the posts everyone but i think so far if we the payers had a choice it would be a split decision. I however believe every title deserves a double weekend instead of just a few. GW has chosen account wide and character based titles to run double point weekends for but not for all of the titles. This i find frustrating because that in itself is not balanced.
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jonnieboi05
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read the posts before posting please this isn't about gwamm.
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Terrible Surgeon
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Actually.... His post was completely relevant and on-topic. He is merely saying that people keep asking for less grind less grind and that is going to take whatever prestige there is left in titles and make them "boring and worthless".
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