Dust off Your Dervishes: UWSC Mashway

shalara1123

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2010

Dhuum and Mallyx are Wait's Play [ToYs]

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After that I don't know how much the Rep can be saved but I can vouch for this build. I have run it many times and the main things that slow this down is the terras dying or the main team dying. Once everyone knows their jobs this is easy under 1 hour.

Hooded Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

IGN : Hooded Lfg Uwsc, Il H O O D E D Il

someones mad.

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Number 1:

Yes you will make money running this build. Once it is down to two consets (When people havelearned how to use it) you are spending 8k max on personal + normal cons. Less for the mainteam bars

When Dayway, and DLway were made, they spent millions of gold making it work and learning how to do it. Once we have it <1hr consistently you WILL make money.

Number 2:

KBar, if your here to troll, gtfo pls. I have no patience for your kind, and ill ask that your posts be deleted if you persist being arrogant, rude and above all a troll.

Number 3:

Oop IS Gone now. We Replaced it with a secondary Paragon and took misc defferent shouts depending on what we find useful. Also trying Rt/Mes with clumsiness or MoD.

Number 4 and Finally:

For anyone who thinks this is not a speedclear. I believe a 1hr underworld is a speedclear. If you think this is ballanced, then 99% of all terraway runs are NOT speedclears. [GS]'s twwtway and modified terraways are NOT speedclears.

Glory told me himself his fastest uw time was 1hr, so im guessing, according to you KBar, hes NEVER done a speedclear?

Trolll more pls



Contrstuctive Edit:::: Added New builds, changed wording of certain tactics.

The Feeding

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2010

Kamadan and ToA :3

Desolation Lords [DL]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooded Doom View Post
Number 1:

Yes you will make money running this build. Once it is down to two consets (When people havelearned how to use it) you are spending 8k max on personal + normal cons. Less for the mainteam bars

When Dayway, and DLway were made, they spent millions of gold making it work and learning how to do it. Once we have it <1hr consistently you WILL make money.

Number 2:

KBar, if your here to troll, gtfo pls. I have no patience for your kind, and ill ask that your posts be deleted if you persist being arrogant, rude and above all a troll.

Number 3:

Oop IS Gone now. We Replaced it with a secondary Paragon and took misc defferent shouts depending on what we find useful. Also trying Rt/Mes with clumsiness or MoD.

Number 4 and Finally:

For anyone who thinks this is not a speedclear. I believe a 1hr underworld is a speedclear. If you think this is ballanced, then 99% of all terraway runs are NOT speedclears. [GS]'s twwtway and modified terraways are NOT speedclears.

Glory told me himself his fastest uw time was 1hr, so im guessing, according to you KBar, hes NEVER done a speedclear?

Trolll more pls



Contrstuctive Edit:::: Added New builds, changed wording of certain tactics. 1. Dayway and DL way made money, my fasted dayway was around 37 minutes. it didnt cost me any money to do dayway because i didnt help in making it, i knew i was going to make my money back because of the simpleness of the run and how easy it was to find good perma's.

2. Kbar fully ruined a good arguement of making this build better.

3. nice to see, i don't see a paragon being as usefull and vital as a rit/necro. it would be good as a backup if the party was able to hold 9 people, but its not, I suggest a Necro with high Soul reaping and a assortment of weapon spells/wells.

4. I also belive a 1 hour UW is a speedclear, If it can be done this way, which by the looks of it, has yet to be done, I know you are still in testing but your beating a dead horse, go through wiki archives,guru archives, youll see MANY Builds like this, mobway,armyway,gangway,meleeway,warway,Multiple professions have had builds made and so far, nothing in this particular build stands out to me that hasn't been included in others. and twwtway? name the people who were in the run. exactly, get a core team and im sure it can be done subhour, i personally would not run twwtway and i didnt participate in helping because i was on probation from GS again. And if you must know, glory,me,alex,jordy and a few others have been working on a core team with a mixture of some of impulsions builds (which he stole tactics from Slayer/jordy/me) but we will be using DL way now with a core team to make sure we get a subhour


I know we have a past history of flaming and such, but im not trolling, i see the effort you and your guild are putting into this build, it saddens me that this much effort and time is being.....well not wasted but detained from doing and making other good builds, im sure this thread will be dwarfed by the new DL way but i would like to eventually try the finished product. But with a few more changes and if you get better terras OR better yet, teach your terras to be come pro at there areas, get a core team that can consistantly do a sub hour run, Then this build can really get the credit you want it to get


-Oblivion

gwkbar

gwkbar

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

U.S.A.

Retired Bookah Syndicate [YaWn]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooded Doom View Post

KBar, if your here to troll, gtfo pls. I have no patience for your kind, and ill ask that your posts be deleted if you persist being arrogant, rude and above all a troll.

Glory told me himself his fastest uw time was 1hr, so im guessing, according to you KBar, hes NEVER done a speedclear?
i already deleted my posts because ppl thought they were trolls. wat i was tryin to get @ is that DL's way for UW is much better for times, and that makin a thread about an UWSC that's not as fast as theirs is sort of pointless. (from my perspective)


And btw you didn't even get permission from ToYs to post this build, according to the guys that actually made this, and they were pissed because you posted the old bars.

When i said that the builds straight up suck, i was right. you posted the old stuff and not even the new stuff that . you pretty much posted the old test builds that they used, which is why i said that the builds sucked. you just posted the new bars, which are decent. ok?

i've seen the newer ones and they look ok. if you think that's trolling, you're too sensitive.

besides, i'm friends with everyone in ToYs, and the creators of this mashway don't even care because you weren't supposed to post the builds on guru until they were finished tweaking it.

so.
ya
I don't go w/ Glory for UW.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Feeding View Post
im not trolling, i see the effort you and your guild are putting into this build, it saddens me that this much effort and time is being.....well not wasted but detained from doing and making other good builds, im sure this thread will be dwarfed by the new DL way but i would like to eventually try the finished product. But with a few more changes and if you get better terras OR better yet, teach your terras to be come pro at there areas, get a core team that can consistantly do a sub hour run, Then this build can really get the credit you want it to get

that's what i meant to say

barbie pryncess

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2009

Dhumm and Mallyx are Waits play [ToYs]

E/Me

fair dues guys, these guys have been playing a lot with these builds and have put a lot of effort into it and actually taking the time to train people this way, is it gonna be the meta that all of guildwars uses, no but it is some thing that fun and will def. be sub hr runs.

as for being pissed about build being posted, nah not pissed just disappointed they went up before they were actually ready and they werent even the right builds.

as for kbars trolling hes come to me already and im sure he wasnt meaning for it to be that way just used some poor wording. no harm done

the builds work and everyone that has gone on a mashway run has had a great time with it.

Hooded Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

IGN : Hooded Lfg Uwsc, Il H O O D E D Il

someones mad.

D/

I dont understand KBar, when i released these builds, DL's builds werent released. Your telling me i shouldnt post because DL were 'going to release their builds some tme in the near future? Your saying everyone who has made UW builds should delete them? Pugs shouldnt do terraway because it takes more than 27 mins? Please enlighten me

we all knew DL'd get the subconset run and best splits first, the problem is that their method isnt pug-able and its hard to complete. Rich told me himself that nobody would want to run those builds because their fair hard. This method is very hard to fail, once we have people understanding their roles (which is happening more and more, usually have 4-5/8 expd players these days) we'll be able to go through smothely and not fail.

My first post talked about how this was a fun, fairly fast method to complete uw. I do it with friends and we have a great time laughing and whatnot on vent. Other guilds are free to try it, and i guaruntee after a couple of runs they'll understand why its so much fun.

I'm not trying to beat DL's 27 mins, i'm trying to share the fun build with everyone.


Also @ Posting the builds before they were ready: There were 2 creators of these builds. Maca and I. Everyone else has helped testing and whatnot but ultimately it is our choice when to release builds. After the issue with Magic and Redway, i didnt want some punk kid stealing my builds of ToYs forums, so i posted them here.

Kbar, if you have anything else you really want to say, dont post it here, pm me please.

oblivion god

oblivion god

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guild Hall

Desolation Lords [DL]

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First off, if we wanted to do subhour UW, we could, so please don't comment on things of which you know almost nothing about. thanks.

Onto the build, the dervs are useless, bring W/D with Warrior's Endurance and you get SY! in addition to that, tanks become harder to kill, group overall is harder to kill, and you could possibly go 2 frontliners.

Rit doesn't need clumsiness, bring Spirit Siphon instead, solves energy problems.

UA could maybe bring pre prot skills instead of Heal Party and Spotless Mind.

All of the "new" parts of the build are the parts with flaws, I personally think your overthinking it. but if it is for fun, it shouldn't be in the farming section.

Farming for me is more about money, not so much fun.

oblivion god

oblivion god

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guild Hall

Desolation Lords [DL]

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If your taking a T3 you almost need D/W or W/D.

W/D is better but it's your choice. If you want to bring times down you should use W/D's. Would make it much easier.

Glory bladez

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

ToA ad 1

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why am i mentioned so much here? =P

spun ducky

spun ducky

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

WTB: q8 bows

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Now now fellas keep it to alliance chat LOL.

Hooded Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

IGN : Hooded Lfg Uwsc, Il H O O D E D Il

someones mad.

D/

Ducky's right, Glory is the most consistant terra i take in runs