Okay, so first of all, I don't pve, and this is coming across as somewhat of a mystery for me. Let's see if you people can clarify.
Botting in PVP, I can understand. It's like cheating on an exam. You want to get an unfair advantage to get ahead of the curve. It's like bringing a gatling gun to a knife fight. You want to show off your leetness in front of your peers on obs mode, but you suck at the game, so you resort to cheating like the little baddie that you are.
Why the hell would you bot in pve, though?
Why the hell would you make a boring experience even more boring? Grinding through a PVE instance like the Underworld is TEARJERKINGLY boring. Good god, man, I couldn't even stomach the first 10 minutes of the Fissure of Woe. Why would you make a bot and sadistically WATCH your character go through something that's boring enough to actually DO?
WHY? I can't wrap my head around this. The game is boring... so you make it MORE boring by running a program that plays the game for you?! It doesn't compute.
At first I was like 3700 accounts banned for botting! HELL YEAH! Then I find out the majority of these botters were PVE botters. PVE botters? What?
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I
Don't
Get
It.
Why the hell would you bot in pve? Explain this to me.
Mithie
lithiumfish
because you can afk while your bot does it for you.
Eragon Zarroc
It is'nt so they don't have to sit there and watch it. They set it up to farm, walk away for a few hours, and then get to enjoy the spoils of labor without actually laboring.
PvE bots were not used to increase your reflex ability why you were at the computer the way it does in pvp. PvE bots are meant to do the menial tasks for you while you are away from your computer.
PvE bots were not used to increase your reflex ability why you were at the computer the way it does in pvp. PvE bots are meant to do the menial tasks for you while you are away from your computer.
Mintha Syl
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Why would you make a bot and sadistically WATCH your character go through something that's boring enough to actually DO?
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As it's an automated thing, you put the program on and when you return it's all done, whatever it was. Isn't it like this?
Essence Snow
Botting in PvE also lent itself to gold sellers. example) Ecto farming bot...then that person sells ecto stacks $20 online. Actually a much better reason to bot than PvP.
FoxBat
There's also PvP bots that would let you AFK too, for farming rewards in JQ, RA, what have you.
Mithie
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Botting in PvE also lent itself to gold sellers. example) Ecto farming bot...then that person sells ecto stacks $20 online. Actually a much better reason to bot than PvP.
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People actually buy gold for this game?
Why? Why would you do that? You can get max stat armor and weapons just by playing the game.
Eragon Zarroc
so that they can buy rare stuff an show it off. not even actually useful stuff really, just e-peen 
Mithie
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I think I'm having an epiphany aneurysm.
This is a whole other side of Guild Wars that I haven't seen, and I've been playing since the beta.
Dzjudz
So they can buy the same stuff I (or any other non-botter) have, without actually doing something to earn it.
pumpkin pie
Because they are farming for gold to sell to gold seller????? i don't know, i will keep watching this thread to see if there's any good answers.
fireflyry
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Grinding through a PVE instance like the Underworld is TEARJERKINGLY boring.
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Also applies to many of the titles and much of the HoM.
aspi
Myself I find it harder to understand why someone would use a bot for pvp.
Shayne Hawke
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This is a whole other side of Guild Wars that I haven't seen, and I've been playing since the beta.
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To address your general concern, consider the Hall of Monuments, which is set to be the sole transfer of benefits in GW to GW2. In order to get maximum benefits,
- You have to play some PvE to get to the HoM.
- You have to craft five elite armors by traveling to the right locations, farming up any necessary reputation or doing any necessary quests, and buying all the materials necessary for purchasing the armors.
- You have to either complete Nightfall or the expansion in order to get access to a set of prestige weapons that can go into the HoM.
- You need to purchase hero armors or raise pets in order to fill another monument.
- There are only two minipets (Ghostly Hero and Greased Lightning) that you can obtain in PvP, as opposed to now 13 in PvE, and you need a total of 20 to fill that respective monument.
- There are only five titles for PvP arenas, six if you include Zaishen, against a plethora of titles for PvE, many likely to be easier to obtain than any of those previous six, and there are also nine non-title achievements that can be logged that are all PvE-based.
Scary
Well why.. couse people think that ingame money make them look better 
And that makes me laugh every time again.
But off topic.. I hope we wont get all kinds of topics about botts
And that makes me laugh every time again.But off topic.. I hope we wont get all kinds of topics about botts
Warvic
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Myself I find it harder to understand why someone would use a bot for pvp.
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Mithie
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IlikeGW
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It should be obvious that your best chance of filling the Hall of Monuments is to play a lot of PvE, which would make it logical for many people to try and bot so many of those rewards.
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Nerel
Titles and HoM might have also factored into why people botted, the lure of some unknown *cough* benefit *cough* in GW2, without the desire to actually spend the time doing whatever repetitive and mundane PvE tasks were required for them to obtain that goal.
Not all titles can be botted, obviously, but most can be bought (true for PvE and PvP titles) so botting a crap load of money while afk seemed logical enough to those lacking integrity. Not that many people would be buying fame when it's easier to just bot it, I guess...
Not all titles can be botted, obviously, but most can be bought (true for PvE and PvP titles) so botting a crap load of money while afk seemed logical enough to those lacking integrity. Not that many people would be buying fame when it's easier to just bot it, I guess...
Eragon Zarroc
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Why would you want to fill out the hall of monuments?
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leetLoLa
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WOWWWW
I think I'm having an epiphany aneurysm. This is a whole other side of Guild Wars that I haven't seen, and I've been playing since the beta. |
you are like alice in wonderland lol
wake up caaaaaaaall
<<common secret>> the zkeys that the gvg ppl earn in tournies are being sold for rl money...
prism2525
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WOWWWW
I think I'm having an epiphany aneurysm. This is a whole other side of Guild Wars that I haven't seen, and I've been playing since the beta. |
C'mon, really... 5 years into it and NOW you're realizing? Pull the other one will ya?
Lithril Ashwalker
Lol rare weapon skins money fun with teamates unlike ra and ha where people are idiots and just leech fame by looking like they do something except save their own butt by kiting and just casting Wo. warding throughout the whole match * cough Cody*
much rather ... Well can't say that or they'll accuse me of Botting next. IMO ur a pvp lover and me well I love pve because the AI changes. Pvp is like jq or ha ( oh look it's a A/W hmm palm strike that's easy to counter . Or oh look a Roj monk( lame ) rupt then move on so to clarify that question o yours they bot for real money and it's boring to them just like pvp is boring to me and pve u. Nearly or the majority( if there is one anymore LAWL) use pvxwiki which killed pvp s original design was pvp now build vs build.
much rather ... Well can't say that or they'll accuse me of Botting next. IMO ur a pvp lover and me well I love pve because the AI changes. Pvp is like jq or ha ( oh look it's a A/W hmm palm strike that's easy to counter . Or oh look a Roj monk( lame ) rupt then move on so to clarify that question o yours they bot for real money and it's boring to them just like pvp is boring to me and pve u. Nearly or the majority( if there is one anymore LAWL) use pvxwiki which killed pvp s original design was pvp now build vs build.
dancing gnome
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Originally Posted by Mithie
Okay, so first of all, I don't pve, and this is coming across as somewhat of a mystery for me. Let's see if you people can clarify.
Botting in PVP, I can understand. It's like cheating on an exam. You want to get an unfair advantage to get ahead of the curve. It's like bringing a gatling gun to a knife fight. You want to show off your leetness in front of your peers on obs mode, but you suck at the game, so you resort to cheating like the little baddie that you are. Why the hell would you bot in pve, though? Why the hell would you make a boring experience even more boring? Grinding through a PVE instance like the Underworld is TEARJERKINGLY boring. Good god, man, I couldn't even stomach the first 10 minutes of the Fissure of Woe. Why would you make a bot and sadistically WATCH your character go through something that's boring enough to actually DO? WHY? I can't wrap my head around this. The game is boring... so you make it MORE boring by running a program that plays the game for you?! It doesn't compute. At first I was like 3700 accounts banned for botting! HELL YEAH! Then I find out the majority of these botters were PVE botters. PVE botters? What? And I Don't Get It. |
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Earlier this week, 3700 accounts were banned by the developers for “botting and match manipulation”, “botting” being the use of automated programs to run through the game’s boring stuff for you.
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Basically, when achieving titles and items in the game isn't based on skill but rather how long you can bore yourself to death repeating the same thing thousands of times, people will cheat to get them.
If titles and loot were awarded to people for completing content and actually playing the game in ways that are fun, instead of farming the same mob of raptors for weeks or clicking on that alcohol in your inventory after a beeper goes off every few minutes, people would obtain them normally.
Because titles and in game loot are awarded for mundane tedious boring stuff, people who understand why we play games (I'll give you a hint, it starts with f) decide it's not something they want to do so they make a bot do it for them.
Risk Vs Reward. So many of the titles (aka how A Net measures your accomplishments to transfer to GW2) have intense unrealistic and unfun goals for most players. That's why they take the risk and bot for them. If titles only existed for actually playing the game (vanquisher, protector, elite skill capture) I bet that 3,700 would be A LOT smaller. If armour was unlocked by actually playing the game instead of farming ecto for 10 years, people would actually play the game. People are always going to cheat, some games just make it more tempting.
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Earlier this week, 3700 accounts were banned by the developers for “botting and match manipulation”, “botting” being the use of automated programs to run through the game’s boring stuff for you.
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Lithril Ashwalker
All honsety if I'd want to show off my skills and gloat on who casted searing flames first to win a mtach in pvp I'd play halo( a shoot first or die game) but ya what he said above
Mithie
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Titles like Drunkard and Sweet Tooth are clearly joke titles that Anet never expects anyone to achieve.
So why even bother? It's not like these grind titles actually matter or demonstrate any sort of skill involved in getting them.
Why bother even trying for them?
chaosincarnate87
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I don't know you guys but my troll scanner is beeping.
C'mon, really... 5 years into it and NOW you're realizing? Pull the other one will ya? |
Mithie
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yeah thats exactly what this is... no one with the tag "wilds pathfinder" on here would be oblivious enough to ignore 5 years of gaming exploits and gold selling.
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Firebaall
Hands down...
One of the most ignorant posts I've seen on Guru. And that's saying quite a bit. Congrats OP.
Either that...or, nice troll.
One of the most ignorant posts I've seen on Guru. And that's saying quite a bit. Congrats OP.
Either that...or, nice troll.
Mithie
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One of the most ignorant posts I've seen on Guru. And that's saying quite a bit. Congrats OP. |
If I weren't ignorant, I wouldn't be asking the question in the first place.
Do you always go around asking questions you know the answer to?
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Do a search for all my posts here at the Guru. Find a single instance where I posted something questionable. Go ahead. Try it.
Firebaall
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That was mean. Edit. hehe
That was mean. Edit. hehe
Mithie
What are you talking about?
There's a question mark RIGHT IN THE TOPIC title.
"Why the hell would you bot in pve------> ? <---------"
Emphasis mine.
There's a question mark RIGHT IN THE TOPIC title.
"Why the hell would you bot in pve------> ? <---------"
Emphasis mine.
FoxBat
Think we all got trolled. :/
amber dawn
why would people do that? IMO it would be the same reason people do it in pvp.
They want people they don't know to think they are something they are not.
They want people they don't know to think they are something they are not.
kokoninja
I agree that buying gold in GW is so useless. I hardly play but I've been able save up a ton of gold. If i really wanted FoW armor or chaos gloves or whatever, I could afford it just from playing on and off for years and being smart about selling things.
It's really easy to be the best you can be, and getting the luxury items or gold for it isn't that hard either.
People are just -that- lazy and it causes so many more problems than it solves.
Humans. Such a flawed race.
It's really easy to be the best you can be, and getting the luxury items or gold for it isn't that hard either.
People are just -that- lazy and it causes so many more problems than it solves.
Humans. Such a flawed race.
chessyang
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....by running a program that plays the game for you?!
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cosyfiep
I dont pvp at all (never will its the most boring thing I could think of to do on a computer), so I COULD ask why people would bot in it, and the answer would be the same
BECAUSE THEY CAN.
do you need any other answer?
(edit---because they could)
BECAUSE THEY CAN.
do you need any other answer?
(edit---because they could
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snaek
well you see, theres these "non-gaming" aspects that are creeping up in a lot of games. titles...achievements...virtual development and maintenance. ever heard of social games like farmville? or even something simple like a virtual pet? pimping out your gw character isn't that much different than dressing up your virtual pet or decorating your farm. people are suckers for these kinds of things. also... lets face it, gw pve doesn't have the greatest gameplay, so it isn't that big of a surprise for devs and players to cling to these "non-gaming" aspects.
Mithie
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I agree that buying gold in GW is so useless. I hardly play but I've been able save up a ton of gold. If i really wanted FoW armor or chaos gloves or whatever, I could afford it just from playing on and off for years and being smart about selling things.
It's really easy to be the best you can be, and getting the luxury items or gold for it isn't that hard either. People are just -that- lazy and it causes so many more problems than it solves. Humans. Such a flawed race. |
I'm having a hard time understanding the motivations for people that do this kind of stuff.
From my point of view, at least speaking personally, if something is boring - i.e. a gameplay element that forces me to grind hours on end in order to eat virtual candy and drink virtual liquor - I just say "screw that, I've got better things to do."
When confronted with a gameplay element that clearly does not cater to me, I simply refuse to participate in it. I don't try to tweak around it, I don't try to pay money for it, I don't even try to attempt it, because it's simply a part of the game that doens't appeal to me.
I would rather spend my time on parts of the game that DO appeal to me.
I simply can't fathom why anyone would go to lengths to participate in gameplay elements - which they found boring and unenjoyable enough to use a bot (or worse - pay real money).
That's where I think we have a difference in approach and philosophy.
If I think something in this game is stupid, I just walk away and don't participate.
frostkisses
go check out the Q.Q threads from all the people that got banned for "doing nothing wrong" there in lies your answer.