Why the hell would you bot in pve? Explain this to me.

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leetLoLa
leetLoLa
Krytan Explorer
#21
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Originally Posted by Mithie View Post
WOWWWW

I think I'm having an epiphany aneurysm.

This is a whole other side of Guild Wars that I haven't seen, and I've been playing since the beta.
wow!are u serius?pvp is much more <<fasion show>> than pve!and in all online games there are ppl that buy staff with rl money...did you know that high-end pets are being sold for like 3000-5000 dollars?
you are like alice in wonderland lol
wake up caaaaaaaall

<<common secret>> the zkeys that the gvg ppl earn in tournies are being sold for rl money...
prism2525
prism2525
Forge Runner
#22
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Originally Posted by Mithie View Post
WOWWWW

I think I'm having an epiphany aneurysm.

This is a whole other side of Guild Wars that I haven't seen, and I've been playing since the beta.
I don't know you guys but my troll scanner is beeping.

C'mon, really... 5 years into it and NOW you're realizing? Pull the other one will ya?
Lithril Ashwalker
Lithril Ashwalker
Jungle Guide
#23
Lol rare weapon skins money fun with teamates unlike ra and ha where people are idiots and just leech fame by looking like they do something except save their own butt by kiting and just casting Wo. warding throughout the whole match * cough Cody*

much rather ... Well can't say that or they'll accuse me of Botting next. IMO ur a pvp lover and me well I love pve because the AI changes. Pvp is like jq or ha ( oh look it's a A/W hmm palm strike that's easy to counter . Or oh look a Roj monk( lame ) rupt then move on so to clarify that question o yours they bot for real money and it's boring to them just like pvp is boring to me and pve u. Nearly or the majority( if there is one anymore LAWL) use pvxwiki which killed pvp s original design was pvp now build vs build.
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dancing gnome
Krytan Explorer
#24
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Originally Posted by Mithie View Post
Okay, so first of all, I don't pve, and this is coming across as somewhat of a mystery for me. Let's see if you people can clarify.

Botting in PVP, I can understand. It's like cheating on an exam. You want to get an unfair advantage to get ahead of the curve. It's like bringing a gatling gun to a knife fight. You want to show off your leetness in front of your peers on obs mode, but you suck at the game, so you resort to cheating like the little baddie that you are.

Why the hell would you bot in pve, though?

Why the hell would you make a boring experience even more boring? Grinding through a PVE instance like the Underworld is TEARJERKINGLY boring. Good god, man, I couldn't even stomach the first 10 minutes of the Fissure of Woe. Why would you make a bot and sadistically WATCH your character go through something that's boring enough to actually DO?

WHY? I can't wrap my head around this. The game is boring... so you make it MORE boring by running a program that plays the game for you?! It doesn't compute.

At first I was like 3700 accounts banned for botting! HELL YEAH! Then I find out the majority of these botters were PVE botters. PVE botters? What?

And

I

Don't

Get

It.
It's funny. Kotaku actually answered your question when they did a news post on the Guild Wars bot bans.

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Originally Posted by Kotaku
Earlier this week, 3700 accounts were banned by the developers for “botting and match manipulation”, “botting” being the use of automated programs to run through the game’s boring stuff for you.
I was pleased to see a large number of non guild wars fanboys noticed this in the comments on the story.

Basically, when achieving titles and items in the game isn't based on skill but rather how long you can bore yourself to death repeating the same thing thousands of times, people will cheat to get them.

If titles and loot were awarded to people for completing content and actually playing the game in ways that are fun, instead of farming the same mob of raptors for weeks or clicking on that alcohol in your inventory after a beeper goes off every few minutes, people would obtain them normally.

Because titles and in game loot are awarded for mundane tedious boring stuff, people who understand why we play games (I'll give you a hint, it starts with f) decide it's not something they want to do so they make a bot do it for them.

Risk Vs Reward. So many of the titles (aka how A Net measures your accomplishments to transfer to GW2) have intense unrealistic and unfun goals for most players. That's why they take the risk and bot for them. If titles only existed for actually playing the game (vanquisher, protector, elite skill capture) I bet that 3,700 would be A LOT smaller. If armour was unlocked by actually playing the game instead of farming ecto for 10 years, people would actually play the game. People are always going to cheat, some games just make it more tempting.

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Originally Posted by Kotaku
Earlier this week, 3700 accounts were banned by the developers for “botting and match manipulation”, “botting” being the use of automated programs to run through the game’s boring stuff for you.
Why is there boring stuff in a game we play for fun in the first place? Treat the problem not the symptom.
Lithril Ashwalker
Lithril Ashwalker
Jungle Guide
#25
All honsety if I'd want to show off my skills and gloat on who casted searing flames first to win a mtach in pvp I'd play halo( a shoot first or die game) but ya what he said above
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Mithie
Wilds Pathfinder
#26
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Because titles and in game loot are awarded for mundane tedious boring stuff, people who understand why we play games (I'll give you a hint, it starts with f) decide it's not something they want to do so they make a bot do it for them.
Here's what I don't understand.

Titles like Drunkard and Sweet Tooth are clearly joke titles that Anet never expects anyone to achieve.

So why even bother? It's not like these grind titles actually matter or demonstrate any sort of skill involved in getting them.

Why bother even trying for them?
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chaosincarnate87
Wilds Pathfinder
#27
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Originally Posted by prism2525 View Post
I don't know you guys but my troll scanner is beeping.

C'mon, really... 5 years into it and NOW you're realizing? Pull the other one will ya?
yeah thats exactly what this is... no one with the tag "wilds pathfinder" on here would be oblivious enough to ignore 5 years of gaming exploits and gold selling.
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Mithie
Wilds Pathfinder
#28
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Originally Posted by chaosincarnate87 View Post
yeah thats exactly what this is... no one with the tag "wilds pathfinder" on here would be oblivious enough to ignore 5 years of gaming exploits and gold selling.
I don't play pve.
Firebaall
Firebaall
Krytan Explorer
#29
Hands down...

One of the most ignorant posts I've seen on Guru. And that's saying quite a bit. Congrats OP.

Either that...or, nice troll.
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Mithie
Wilds Pathfinder
#30
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One of the most ignorant posts I've seen on Guru. And that's saying quite a bit. Congrats OP.
Yeah, well, of course it's an ignorant post.

If I weren't ignorant, I wouldn't be asking the question in the first place.

Do you always go around asking questions you know the answer to?

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Either that...or, nice troll.
Oh christ.

Do a search for all my posts here at the Guru. Find a single instance where I posted something questionable. Go ahead. Try it.
Firebaall
Firebaall
Krytan Explorer
#31
...

That was mean. Edit. hehe
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Mithie
Wilds Pathfinder
#32
What are you talking about?

There's a question mark RIGHT IN THE TOPIC title.

"Why the hell would you bot in pve------> ? <---------"

Emphasis mine.
F
FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#33
Think we all got trolled. :/
a
amber dawn
Academy Page
#34
why would people do that? IMO it would be the same reason people do it in pvp.
They want people they don't know to think they are something they are not.
kokoninja
kokoninja
Academy Page
#35
I agree that buying gold in GW is so useless. I hardly play but I've been able save up a ton of gold. If i really wanted FoW armor or chaos gloves or whatever, I could afford it just from playing on and off for years and being smart about selling things.

It's really easy to be the best you can be, and getting the luxury items or gold for it isn't that hard either.

People are just -that- lazy and it causes so many more problems than it solves.

Humans. Such a flawed race.
chessyang
chessyang
Not far from Elite
#36
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Originally Posted by Mithie View Post
And

I

Don't

Get

It.
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Originally Posted by Mithie View Post
....by running a program that plays the game for you?!
Yes.... make sense? and what kind of answer are you looking for?
cosyfiep
cosyfiep
are we there yet?
#37
I dont pvp at all (never will its the most boring thing I could think of to do on a computer), so I COULD ask why people would bot in it, and the answer would be the same

BECAUSE THEY CAN.
do you need any other answer?
(edit---because they could )
snaek
snaek
Forge Runner
#38
well you see, theres these "non-gaming" aspects that are creeping up in a lot of games. titles...achievements...virtual development and maintenance. ever heard of social games like farmville? or even something simple like a virtual pet? pimping out your gw character isn't that much different than dressing up your virtual pet or decorating your farm. people are suckers for these kinds of things. also... lets face it, gw pve doesn't have the greatest gameplay, so it isn't that big of a surprise for devs and players to cling to these "non-gaming" aspects.
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Mithie
Wilds Pathfinder
#39
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Originally Posted by kokoninja View Post
I agree that buying gold in GW is so useless. I hardly play but I've been able save up a ton of gold. If i really wanted FoW armor or chaos gloves or whatever, I could afford it just from playing on and off for years and being smart about selling things.

It's really easy to be the best you can be, and getting the luxury items or gold for it isn't that hard either.

People are just -that- lazy and it causes so many more problems than it solves.

Humans. Such a flawed race.
See, I think here's where you and I have a case of value dissonance with the people who buy gold and pve bot.

I'm having a hard time understanding the motivations for people that do this kind of stuff.

From my point of view, at least speaking personally, if something is boring - i.e. a gameplay element that forces me to grind hours on end in order to eat virtual candy and drink virtual liquor - I just say "screw that, I've got better things to do."

When confronted with a gameplay element that clearly does not cater to me, I simply refuse to participate in it. I don't try to tweak around it, I don't try to pay money for it, I don't even try to attempt it, because it's simply a part of the game that doens't appeal to me.

I would rather spend my time on parts of the game that DO appeal to me.

I simply can't fathom why anyone would go to lengths to participate in gameplay elements - which they found boring and unenjoyable enough to use a bot (or worse - pay real money).

That's where I think we have a difference in approach and philosophy.

If I think something in this game is stupid, I just walk away and don't participate.
frostkisses
frostkisses
Wilds Pathfinder
#40
go check out the Q.Q threads from all the people that got banned for "doing nothing wrong" there in lies your answer.