Jagged Strike and Fox Fangs
Lanier
Being the ignorant PvEer I am, will someone tell me why people say Rangers are used as dagger users in PvP over assassins?
Fleeting
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Originally Posted by Fahhhh
AoD sins are not unbeatable by any means. The added mobility is what gave people a reason to run them. Thats always been the way I thought of Assassin's; they are extremely mobile. Mobility is what makes this game fun and honestly AoD sins were probably the most balanced form of sin play this game has ever seen, other than being useless in PvP
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The Coward / Assault sins, while annoying, are pretty much fine. They're difficult to counter and take relatively little skill to play, but they also deal pitiful damage in comparison both to the average Warrior and to the old Shattering Assault builds.
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Originally Posted by Lanier
Being the ignorant PvEer I am, will someone tell me why people say Rangers are used as dagger users in PvP over assassins?
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Desert Rose
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Originally Posted by Lanier
Being the ignorant PvEer I am, will someone tell me why people say Rangers are used as dagger users in PvP over assassins?
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Reverend Dr
And aside from Soul Reaping in PvE, expertise is still the best energy management period. Any fast recharging skill that benefits from expertise is going to be more potent in the hands of a ranger primary.
HigherMinion
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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr
And aside from Soul Reaping in PvE, expertise is still the best energy management period. Any fast recharging skill that benefits from expertise is going to be more potent in the hands of a ranger primary.
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Khomet Si Netjer
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Originally Posted by HigherMinion
Actually, when talking about physicals; Leadership>all. With just two adren based skills and 12-14 Leadership, you'll never run out of energy. You can run out if you spam as a necro without secondary management.
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HigherMinion
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Originally Posted by Khomet Si Netjer
You have to hit to gain adrenaline; any form of block, blind, miss, etc. (not to mention anti adrenaline hexing) means no adrenaline and no energy. Warrior and paragon shutdown is very easy to do. (bsurge says hi, among MANY other options)
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Reverend Dr
Key point "with 2 adrenal based skills" Soul reaping and expertise do not require any of your 8 skill slot investment. I mean Mind Blast and Fire Attunement provide a hell of a lot of e-management. Elemental Attunement and [attunement]. Ether Renewal.
Consider just the attributes by themselves. There are plenty of skill combinations that make energy management very easy, but they require skill slots to be taken. This is the reason that R/A's are so potent; they get e-management without giving up any skill slots.
Consider just the attributes by themselves. There are plenty of skill combinations that make energy management very easy, but they require skill slots to be taken. This is the reason that R/A's are so potent; they get e-management without giving up any skill slots.
Khomet Si Netjer
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Originally Posted by HigherMinion
Paragon are midline, with high armour and health (generally) There aren't that many instances that would shut them down. And also if the paragon gets shutdown so will the ranger, most likely sooner. And a ranger who can't spam attacks, is even more useless than a paragon with a few energy skills as backup.
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there are plenty of ways to shut down the paragon's adrenaline-to-energy conversion; there are NO ways to shut down the ranger's expertise or the necromancer's soul reaping. Desert Rose has already pointed out why rangers work well in this role, expertise works no matter what.
zelgadissan
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Originally Posted by Khomet Si Netjer
there are NO ways to shut down the ranger's expertise or the necromancer's soul reaping.
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Atrophy
/mebeingasmartass
Elnino
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Undo the buffs that those skills were given in PvP. I don't see any harm in leaving the buffs in place for PvE.
Undo the buffs that those skills were given in PvP. I don't see any harm in leaving the buffs in place for PvE.
pinkeyflower
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Originally Posted by Elnino
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Undo the buffs that those skills were given in PvP. I don't see any harm in leaving the buffs in place for PvE. |
Sirius Bsns
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Originally Posted by pinkeyflower
Will probably make sins even more useless.
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HigherMinion
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Originally Posted by Khomet Si Netjer
what does high armor and high health have to do with energy management?
there are plenty of ways to shut down the paragon's adrenaline-to-energy conversion; there are NO ways to shut down the ranger's expertise or the necromancer's soul reaping. Desert Rose has already pointed out why rangers work well in this role, expertise works no matter what. |
It's almost inevitable you're taking an adren skill or two; GFTE namely.
Morphy
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Originally Posted by Elnino
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Undo the buffs that those skills were given in PvP. I don't see any harm in leaving the buffs in place for PvE. |
Xenomortis
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Originally Posted by HigherMinion
What I'm saying is; if the ranger is blind and the paragon is blind, they'll both be dealing the same damage anyway, and if you're going to carry on spamming attacks while blind you're just an idiot.
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