Make GWAMM applicable for a players entire account for each UNIQUE title their characters have attained (2x LB won't count.) Suggested for two reasons:
EDIT: Seems like I wasn't clear enough. All the current Char based titles can still be character based, GWAMM will just take each unique title any char has into account. For the people that don't want a lvl1 char /w the title, how about only unlocking it on a character only when they have 10 titles maxed.
Reason 1 being that it will make it easier on the people whose main characters never attained Legendary Survivor or LDoA to still get a chance to have those count towards their total.
Reason 2 being that having access to the two mutually exclusive titles (Survivor/LDoA) will make Alehound unnecessary.
Does anyone else remember that in the months leading up to the HOM "upgrade" ANet said something to the tune of "We feel that under the current system, players are discouraged to play multiple characters."
The 'upgrade' didn't really address the core issue. Issue being the fact that the very existance of the HoM, as an extension of the KOABD title, ties players to a single character for the duration of the title.
I understand that there are several alternatives to the terrible 3 titles (Drunk/Sweet/Party,) but with GW2 looming, it seems less and less likely that titles such as Seeker of Lux/Kurz/Wisdom/Treasure Hunter/Lucky/Unlucky/All PvP titles can be completed by anyone that hasn't been less than 2 years.
Make GWAMM an account based title.
Gennadios
Voltar
all the eotn titles count too.
Just.nl
/notsigned.
LDoA and Leg. Survivor at the same time is huge no-go,
LDoA and Leg. Survivor at the same time is huge no-go,
jackinthe
alehound is already unnecessary.
Elnino
Once you put those titles in your HoM, it becomes an account-wide title 
So . . . /notsigned
So . . . /notsigned
Songbringer
uh notsigned. My ele doesn't have survivor or ldoa and I will get it easily. So no 1 should need it.
Ranger Jaap
/signed for legendary survivor account based title,because i keep changing mains and dont want do to all the xp grinding again.
Gill Halendt
I've suggested something similar 2 years ago.
I think you misunderstood the suggestion.
You're not going to be able to get them both with the same character anyway. Rules for each individual title would still apply, you'll just get 1 point toward GWAMM from your LS character, and 1 from your LDoA character.
OP is suggesting GWAMM to become an account wide container-title for unique titles of all characters in the account. Each character will retain his/her own titles, but contribute toward the account-wide KoaBD counter.
So, say, you play 4 characters in your account:
- You love Character A and play it so much. You get Legendary Guardian (x7), Legendary Vanquisher (x3) and Legendary Cartographer (x3)
- You get Legendary Survivor with Character B (x1)
- You also have Character C with LDoA (x1)
- You have Character D that has both Holy Lightbringer and Legendary Spearmarshal (x2)
So, the account-wide title counts for (7+3+3)+(1)+(1)+(2)=17, your account has attained r3 in the KoaBD title, I'm very Important, and you can display it with each character.
How's that a bad idea?
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/notsigned.
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You're not going to be able to get them both with the same character anyway. Rules for each individual title would still apply, you'll just get 1 point toward GWAMM from your LS character, and 1 from your LDoA character.
OP is suggesting GWAMM to become an account wide container-title for unique titles of all characters in the account. Each character will retain his/her own titles, but contribute toward the account-wide KoaBD counter.
So, say, you play 4 characters in your account:
- You love Character A and play it so much. You get Legendary Guardian (x7), Legendary Vanquisher (x3) and Legendary Cartographer (x3)
- You get Legendary Survivor with Character B (x1)
- You also have Character C with LDoA (x1)
- You have Character D that has both Holy Lightbringer and Legendary Spearmarshal (x2)
So, the account-wide title counts for (7+3+3)+(1)+(1)+(2)=17, your account has attained r3 in the KoaBD title, I'm very Important, and you can display it with each character.
How's that a bad idea?
Seiken Deaths Angel
/not signed.
Yesterday i finaly finished 35 maxed titles on my main (without surv or LDOA !).
So with your suggestion, all of my 13 caracters will get GWAMM without playing ! And just after their creation ? what about pvp carac ?
Lol gwamm with pvp or pve caracters, 1 minute after birth xD
Yesterday i finaly finished 35 maxed titles on my main (without surv or LDOA !).
So with your suggestion, all of my 13 caracters will get GWAMM without playing ! And just after their creation ? what about pvp carac ?
Lol gwamm with pvp or pve caracters, 1 minute after birth xD
Aeronwen
/notsigned
what about the people who already have 2 or more GWAMM's - having actually put in the effort?
If they keep making titles easier they might as well just give them out at character creation.
what about the people who already have 2 or more GWAMM's - having actually put in the effort?
If they keep making titles easier they might as well just give them out at character creation.
Mintha Syl
Since as far as I know GWAMM gives no benefit other than showing off, apart from HoM which you can already set account-wise I really see no reason to make it account-wide.
I understand you're suggesting it so that people doesn't focus on a single char, but to me it looks like making it for account changes its meaning. I see it as "this char has done really a lot of things" not as "as a player I did a lot of things so even my newly borned pre-searing chars can have it/contribute to it".
I understand you're suggesting it so that people doesn't focus on a single char, but to me it looks like making it for account changes its meaning. I see it as "this char has done really a lot of things" not as "as a player I did a lot of things so even my newly borned pre-searing chars can have it/contribute to it".
Diab Soule
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what about the people who already have 2 or more GWAMM's - having actually put in the effort? If they keep making titles easier they might as well just give them out at character creation. |
calamari cruiser
/notsigned
i got my gwamm without survivor or leg. defender :P so i guess anyone can do it too ^^
i got my gwamm without survivor or leg. defender :P so i guess anyone can do it too ^^
Terrible Surgeon
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Once you put those titles in your HoM, it becomes an account-wide title
So . . . /notsigned |
Dre
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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt
I've suggested something similar 2 years ago.
I think you misunderstood the suggestion. You're not going to be able to get them both with the same character anyway. Rules for each individual title would still apply, you'll just get 1 point toward GWAMM from your LS character, and 1 from your LDoA character. OP is suggesting GWAMM to become an account wide container-title for unique titles of all characters in the account. Each character will retain his/her own titles, but contribute toward the account-wide KoaBD counter. So, say, you play 4 characters in your account: - You love Character A and play it so much. You get Legendary Guardian (x7), Legendary Vanquisher (x3) and Legendary Cartographer (x3) - You get Legendary Survivor with Character B (x1) - You also have Character C with LDoA (x1) - You have Character D that has both Holy Lightbringer and Legendary Spearmarshal (x2) So, the account-wide title counts for (7+3+3)+(1)+(1)+(2)=17, your account has attained r3 in the KoaBD title, I'm very Important, and you can display it with each character. How's that a bad idea? |
This is the best suggestion for the KoaBD title so far.
Horace Slughorn
terrible idea, that im sure has been suggested already
Nerel
shoyon456
It's relatively easy to attain GWAMM if you know what you're doing. You have a fair amount of leeway when it comes to avoiding particularly annoying titles too. The only problem is the time spent grinding aspect. This idea should have been the original implementation, especially if the HoM transfers accomplishments based on account. However, after so many people have grinded through titles on a single character, the game is far too gone for such a drastic change to the title. Perhaps if it were originally implemented like this, we would be better off today.
/notsigned if you didn't catch it.
/notsigned if you didn't catch it.
Gill Halendt
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what about the people who already have 2 or more GWAMM's - having actually put in the effort? If they keep making titles easier they might as well just give them out at character creation. |
Masmar
You can still max all the different titles on seperate characters, and then once you put them in your hall they will all be registered completed. The only thing you'll miss out on is a flashy title
Luminarus
Theres 26 easily maxable titles from just gameplay (vanquing carting etc). Luxon/Kurz are easy enough to max now, just take a bit of grind. (28). You then have lucky, unlucky, wisdom, and treasure hunter that you can max, which you can increase whilst your doing every part of the game. You can also increase them after you have maxed the other 28 titles.
So thats 32 relatively easy titles, gwamm with 2 to spare. Cons are just blowing money (and lets be honest, after getting 26 titles, most people have enough money for atleast one of them).
I personally think its ridiculous that you can have a level 1 character with KOABD. Having a lvl1 with GWAMM is just retarded.
So thats 32 relatively easy titles, gwamm with 2 to spare. Cons are just blowing money (and lets be honest, after getting 26 titles, most people have enough money for atleast one of them).
I personally think its ridiculous that you can have a level 1 character with KOABD. Having a lvl1 with GWAMM is just retarded.
Tenebrae
Yeah lets make the game easier for no other reason that "i want my titles faster" or stuff like that.
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C4RB1N3
FOr some people GWAMM on multiple characters is the only reason they still play Guild Wars.
/notsigned
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-Vodka-
Plenty of reasons that this would be a bad idea, as stated by others in this thread.
1. What about the people who already have GWAMM on multiple characters?;
2. GWAMM on a level 1? Seriously?;
3. What would you do after getting GWAMM on your first character? Game complete? As mentioned above, grinding out GWAMM on several characters is the reason that many people are still playing;
4. GWAMM is easy enough, as shown by example in this thread, without LDoA or LS;
5. Anet wouldn't change it. Mainly due to point 1.
1. What about the people who already have GWAMM on multiple characters?;
2. GWAMM on a level 1? Seriously?;
3. What would you do after getting GWAMM on your first character? Game complete? As mentioned above, grinding out GWAMM on several characters is the reason that many people are still playing;
4. GWAMM is easy enough, as shown by example in this thread, without LDoA or LS;
5. Anet wouldn't change it. Mainly due to point 1.
Judge Nl
Gwamm is a title for maxed titles and should stay like it is. There are enough account based titles in my oppinion to make a 2nd or 3rd Gwamm more easy.
/notsigned
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Eragon Zarroc
/notsigned.
survivor and LDoA are mutually exclusive for a reason. don't need people with 37 maxed titles. The title doen't need to be made any easier seeing as many people have already achieved it. you would be downplaying the achievements of people who have already achieved gwamm on multiple characters. absolutely not.
survivor and LDoA are mutually exclusive for a reason. don't need people with 37 maxed titles. The title doen't need to be made any easier seeing as many people have already achieved it. you would be downplaying the achievements of people who have already achieved gwamm on multiple characters. absolutely not.
Raven Wing
Its fine enough that there are a few account wide titles already, but really? The gwamm title should be a sign that you have done all of the game (or at least most of it)
Running around in pre or shing jea with a title that signals that you have done all the missions, all dungeons etc is plain ridiculous.
/notsigned
Running around in pre or shing jea with a title that signals that you have done all the missions, all dungeons etc is plain ridiculous.
/notsigned
Schnellburg
Yall are freaking lazy for wanting GWAMM to be account based. Do the work, get the title. If Anet wanted to make it easy to get, they would of made it like Legendary Survivor.
Xsiriss
It'd be easier to just make eotn titles and sweet/alehound/party animal account based. To avoid whining from all the grinders who made it to r6 already (seriously it's not hard, it just requires a whole hell of alot of time most of us don't have which is why we chosoe to play a casual game liek GW).
/signed. GTFO elitists
/signed. GTFO elitists
Shayne Hawke
May as well make all titles account based. For the same reasons that certain titles aren't going to be made account based, this track shouldn't be account based either.
Schnellburg
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It'd be easier to just make eotn titles and sweet/alehound/party animal account based. To avoid whining from all the grinders who made it to r6 already (seriously it's not hard, it just requires a whole hell of alot of time most of us don't have which is why we chosoe to play a casual game liek GW).
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Stop being lazy. It is a MAX title rank for a reason. GW is a game of grind, you don't like it, go play something else.
Lanier
/signed
the less grind involved in the game, the better. My opinion is that all titles with the exception of the lb, sunspear, and eotn titles should be account based. It would make getting the titles more fun.
the less grind involved in the game, the better. My opinion is that all titles with the exception of the lb, sunspear, and eotn titles should be account based. It would make getting the titles more fun.
To Chicken To Die
/signed for making the game more uselles and f* up as it already is.
Venla
I would /sign to the idea of making drunkard, sweet tooth, and party animal account-wide. /sign to the idea of reducing the grind involved in the account-wide titles as well (luxon, treasure hunter, etc.) as well as some of the pve ones (the eotn rep titles, come on.)
However, /not signed to account-wide titles, and account-wide GWAMM. Some people enjoy doing multiple legendary survivors the old-fashioned way - at this point that's the only thing that makes me enjoy NM pve since it's otherwise too easy for me. And GWAMM, excluding the consumables titles and the eotn rep titles, is actually pretty easy and grind-free to get if you enjoy pve. I just wish it was clear that it wasn't needed for the GW2 bonuses, since a full hall ought to be enough.
However, /not signed to account-wide titles, and account-wide GWAMM. Some people enjoy doing multiple legendary survivors the old-fashioned way - at this point that's the only thing that makes me enjoy NM pve since it's otherwise too easy for me. And GWAMM, excluding the consumables titles and the eotn rep titles, is actually pretty easy and grind-free to get if you enjoy pve. I just wish it was clear that it wasn't needed for the GW2 bonuses, since a full hall ought to be enough.
cosyfiep
/not signed....totally unnecessary to the game. I LIKE playing all my different characters this would basically say 'just play one character' no way!
Greed[Exs]
/notsigned
It's not that hard to get as it is, don't complain about it and get like everyone else. When you suggest ideas like this, you should also consider suggesting compensation for those that got it the old fashioned way.
It's not that hard to get as it is, don't complain about it and get like everyone else. When you suggest ideas like this, you should also consider suggesting compensation for those that got it the old fashioned way.
Perilay Elkhorn
yes and no. It took a long long time to get r7 treasure and wisdom even though it is account wide. The drunkard/party/sugar should be account wide. The ridiculous time it takes to get those per char is just silly.
Divinus Tutela
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They already made these too easy, treasure hunter didn't use to be account based, and i was 8k chests in to my second character when they made it account based. Not to mention i needed to run 17,000 chests to max unlucky, and nowadays ppl max luck/unlucky before they max th... (also bonus weekends help for this a lot...)
And for luxon and kurzick... so easy, especially with all these double rewards weekends...
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As for gwamm account based... /notsigned
I have had 35 maxed on my monk for well over 2 years now and not even I will attempt LDOA, make that account based and then I might...
Survivor account based? /signed. hmm why not, then I will have 36 and won't feel like deleting my monk and starting over anymore...
Benderama
/not signed. i don't even have this title, but it's meant to represent skill, not be a necessity. work towards it, if you're concerned about HoM then shouldn't it be more of a suggestion to have it shown in the monument of honor at a lower rank?
Also Sweet/party titles aren't terrible, it can be done in under an hour if you have all the items.
Also Sweet/party titles aren't terrible, it can be done in under an hour if you have all the items.
Gennadios
I would suggest some people re-read my OP.
For players that just recently started out (or even within the past year and 1/2), its not feasible to complete the other account based titles within a year.
I'm really happy for 'yall that got them, and I'ma let you finish, but Lucky/Unlucky/Seeker of wisdom mean sweet FA to the rest of us.
How so? Did you actually take the time to read what I wrote? If you can max different titles on different characters and still have that work translate into GWAMM, how would that discourage a player?
Unless you've been grinding GWAMM characters b/c there's nothing left to do, most players will only see a benefit.
For players that just recently started out (or even within the past year and 1/2), its not feasible to complete the other account based titles within a year.
I'm really happy for 'yall that got them, and I'ma let you finish, but Lucky/Unlucky/Seeker of wisdom mean sweet FA to the rest of us.
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/not signed....totally unnecessary to the game. I LIKE playing all my different characters this would basically say 'just play one character' no way!
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Unless you've been grinding GWAMM characters b/c there's nothing left to do, most players will only see a benefit.