I need a confirmation on this email that ArenaNet support team send out to its player.
This post.
While you are not doing anything to stop or prevent this obvious nuisance in the game, you let your support team tell the player that its okay to be nuisance?
If you, ArenaNet aren't or won't do anything about the sync problem, I kindly ask you to please remove the Gladiator title track and Random Arena.
Thank you.
ANet's stance on syncing
pumpkin pie
FoxBat
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While you are not doing anything to stop or prevent this obvious nuisance in the game, you let your support team tell the player that its okay to be nuisance?
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pinkeyflower
Removing glad rank and RA would be suicidal. Who wants to play CMs or AB when they don't GvG or HA?
fireflyry
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For as many things as possible, this is how it should be. It is Anet's job to create a stable and fair competitive environment, not tell people they should do anything other than what lets them win the most. If it's not pointless player harrassment and it's not a bot/hack, it shouldn't be punishable IMO.
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Picking at hairs imo.
Del
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If you, ArenaNet aren't or won't do anything about the sync problem, I kindly ask you to please remove the Gladiator title track and Random Arena.
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Also, uMad? 1-10?
Fusylum
Well, this looks quite sticky
pumpkin pie
I AM OUTRAGE 
But I calmly ask for an answer from ArenaNet. I have stop asking them and patiently wait for them to do something about it for a long time, I was given an answer sometime ago, making me think they are looking into this problem. That email proof they aren't.
ArenaNet have been shoving this problem away, throwing it like a beach ball from one department to another, one person says this another person says that, and the live team says something else.
There is a need for a proper answer.
If they don't want to take responsible for it, so why have it there? I Motion for its removal.
But I calmly ask for an answer from ArenaNet. I have stop asking them and patiently wait for them to do something about it for a long time, I was given an answer sometime ago, making me think they are looking into this problem. That email proof they aren't.
ArenaNet have been shoving this problem away, throwing it like a beach ball from one department to another, one person says this another person says that, and the live team says something else.
There is a need for a proper answer.
If they don't want to take responsible for it, so why have it there? I Motion for its removal.
Del
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I AM OUTRAGE
But I calmly ask for an answer from ArenaNet. I have stop asking them and patiently wait for them to do something about it for a long time, I was given an answer sometime ago, making me think they are looking into this problem. That email proof they aren't. ArenaNet have been shoving this problem away, throwing it like a beach ball from one department to another, one person says this another person says that, and the live team says something else. There is a need for a proper answer. If they don't want to take responsible for it, so why have it there? I Motion for its removal. |
jazilla
I call shenanigans on the OP. The Support Team always signs their replies with signatures. If you can't be bothered to copy and paste who it was that sent you this, how can we be bothered to believe that the reply you say you got from them is valid? If it is valid, then no harm no foul, but as the post looks now, it seems to me you are making this up. I hope you understand where I am coming from. Anyone could write something like that up. It also looks way too informal to me to be an actual Support Team reply.
Eragon Zarroc
How are you suppose to track syncing? How are you suppose to suspend people just for hitting a button at the same time? you can't. It isn't like there is a guaranteed chance that they will be on the same team, it is still pretty random. Just get over it.
Shadowmoon
Sorry nothing can be done. They already fixed the problem by pooling all the districts in when they make teams, but if there not enough people to randomize a good enough team, you get syncer. The only option would be to incease the timer so hopefully you'll get more people in the que, but does everyone want to have a 2 min timer just to enter ra really?
Ranger Jaap
just give us TA back...
Warvic
Stop QQ-ing ffs. I got my G4 with doing RA ONLY. I faced some sync teams, but honestly!! You don't face an sync team every day. People just cry to much. I remember more times that people who lose call me and my team syncers. THIS IS NOT TRUE!. Then that I see an team of syncers. And this is the problem. People think there are alot of syncers and QQ about it. I'm almost everyday in RA (Whenever I play GW). And the problem is not as big as you think it is. And what is the problem? It's only an title, and it's only an random arena to just fight till you are bored.. Just play
So yeh! A-net! Just ignore all this QQ. Don't waste time on this super little problem. Spend time on GW Beyond, skill updates and bans!
So yeh! A-net! Just ignore all this QQ. Don't waste time on this super little problem. Spend time on GW Beyond, skill updates and bans!
sonofthort
Stop QQ-ing ffs. I got my G4 with doing RA ONLY. I faced some sync teams, but honestly!! You don't face an sync team every day. People just cry to much. I remember more times that people who lose call me and my team syncers. THIS IS NOT TRUE!. Then that I see an team of syncers. And this is the problem. People think there are alot of syncers and QQ about it. I'm almost everyday in RA (Whenever I play GW). And the problem is not as big as you think it is. And what is the problem? It's only an title, and it's only an random arena to just fight till you are bored.. Just play
So yeh! A-net! Just ignore all this QQ. Don't waste time on this super little problem. Spend time on GW Beyond, skill updates and bans!
---Sry, had to copy this as it is my story and opinion as well
So yeh! A-net! Just ignore all this QQ. Don't waste time on this super little problem. Spend time on GW Beyond, skill updates and bans!
---Sry, had to copy this as it is my story and opinion as well
sixdartbart
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I call shenanigans on the OP. The Support Team always signs their replies with signatures. If you can't be bothered to copy and paste who it was that sent you this, how can we be bothered to believe that the reply you say you got from them is valid? If it is valid, then no harm no foul, but as the post looks now, it seems to me you are making this up. I hope you understand where I am coming from. Anyone could write something like that up. It also looks way too informal to me to be an actual Support Team reply.
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He is going off of a post by someone else {short time guru member no less} but we all know if you see it on the internet it must be true.
Reguardless if that post is even truthful the OP can remove himself from doing RA rather than bitching to remove it from everyone else, other people may still enjoy it and if it bothers you that much DON'T PLAY THERE.
Ka Tet
This is the kind of ludicrous crap you get when you pander to Care Bears.
Kill codex, bring back TA, and there should be nothing left to complain about. Problem solved.
Or better yet, focus on what actually harmed low-end PVP playability the most: the faction farm bots that run in circles wanding in comp mishes. They banned 3700 people and a week later I pop into JQ to see the most infamous of all JQ bots TYS (rhymes with Dom Dum Doop) still running in circles during matches.
Kill codex, bring back TA, and there should be nothing left to complain about. Problem solved.
Or better yet, focus on what actually harmed low-end PVP playability the most: the faction farm bots that run in circles wanding in comp mishes. They banned 3700 people and a week later I pop into JQ to see the most infamous of all JQ bots TYS (rhymes with Dom Dum Doop) still running in circles during matches.
snaek
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just give us TA back...
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If it's not pointless player harrassment and it's not a bot/hack, it shouldn't be punishable IMO.
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talon994
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This is the kind of ludicrous crap you get when you pander to Care Bears.
Kill codex, bring back TA, and there should be nothing left to complain about. Problem solved. Or better yet, focus on what actually harmed low-end PVP playability the most: the faction farm bots that run in circles wanding in comp mishes. They banned 3700 people and a week later I pop into JQ to see the most infamous of all JQ bots TYS (rhymes with Dom Dum Doop) still running in circles during matches. |
But that isnt even the problem. Tom has sometimes been the only help I get on green. Sorry but bots> real players. Until people learn how to play such a low end PvP arena I will continue to support Mrc Chii and Tom.
Spiritz
Ok - i read that post and as far as i can tell anet answered the question honestly.
Remembering that anet has enough crap on its plate atm - Wik bugs etc it dont surprise me its on the future agenda.
If anet changes it and tries to remove all syncing and screws up coding then most of the pvpers will cry in outrage - while they do that all the pve`rs cry in outrage coz Wik is glitched or not being updated.
And as most players kno about syncing anet doesnt have to hide how its done - im even sure its on wiki lol.
Remembering that anet has enough crap on its plate atm - Wik bugs etc it dont surprise me its on the future agenda.
If anet changes it and tries to remove all syncing and screws up coding then most of the pvpers will cry in outrage - while they do that all the pve`rs cry in outrage coz Wik is glitched or not being updated.
And as most players kno about syncing anet doesnt have to hide how its done - im even sure its on wiki lol.
Swahnee
Why remove RA?
1.Bring back TA, with glad title
2.Keep RA, but remove the glad title from it
Being the only place with glad title, TA should not have any population problem, and RA would be clear of botters (whose only reason to exist is farming glad points) and syncers (whose only reason to exist is farming glad points).
Then, someone may say that without glad RA would be dead. Maybe. Maybe not. Don't forget that, if i'm not mistaken, the main reason that keep a lot of people (PvErs) out of PvP is the so-called "PvPers attitude", which means that a lot of PvErs try one or two times to start PvP, jumping in RA, and getting immediately insulted, called noobs and what not, you know. PvErs are used to the lower-paced PvE gamestyle, they are used to always win without too many problems, so it's comprehensible that they get shocked by such a first experience. The result is that they stop trying, convincing themselves that "PvP is not for me", "PvP is full of assholes", "i'm not going to give PvP a chance any more", etc.
How many of you like to play PvP for fun, without worrying about winning, or about a title? How many of you would like to have a nice, quick PvP format to play in when you have only half an hour to spend? I like to think that there are a lot of people who would like an RA without a title, without people always looking at your build to see if it's a meta one, screaming at you, telling you to gtfo noob, asking to resign, etc. Maybe i'm too naive, maybe i'm a dreamer...
...but you know, dreaming is free
1.Bring back TA, with glad title
2.Keep RA, but remove the glad title from it
Being the only place with glad title, TA should not have any population problem, and RA would be clear of botters (whose only reason to exist is farming glad points) and syncers (whose only reason to exist is farming glad points).
Then, someone may say that without glad RA would be dead. Maybe. Maybe not. Don't forget that, if i'm not mistaken, the main reason that keep a lot of people (PvErs) out of PvP is the so-called "PvPers attitude", which means that a lot of PvErs try one or two times to start PvP, jumping in RA, and getting immediately insulted, called noobs and what not, you know. PvErs are used to the lower-paced PvE gamestyle, they are used to always win without too many problems, so it's comprehensible that they get shocked by such a first experience. The result is that they stop trying, convincing themselves that "PvP is not for me", "PvP is full of assholes", "i'm not going to give PvP a chance any more", etc.
How many of you like to play PvP for fun, without worrying about winning, or about a title? How many of you would like to have a nice, quick PvP format to play in when you have only half an hour to spend? I like to think that there are a lot of people who would like an RA without a title, without people always looking at your build to see if it's a meta one, screaming at you, telling you to gtfo noob, asking to resign, etc. Maybe i'm too naive, maybe i'm a dreamer...
...but you know, dreaming is free
Del
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Why remove RA?
1.Bring back TA, with glad title 2.Keep RA, but remove the glad title from it Being the only place with glad title, TA should not have any population problem, and RA would be clear of botters (whose only reason to exist is farming glad points) and syncers (whose only reason to exist is farming glad points). Then, someone may say that without glad RA would be dead. Maybe. Maybe not. Don't forget that, if i'm not mistaken, the main reason that keep a lot of people (PvErs) out of PvP is the so-called "PvPers attitude", which means that a lot of PvErs try one or two times to start PvP, jumping in RA, and getting immediately insulted, called noobs and what not, you know. PvErs are used to the lower-paced PvE gamestyle, they are used to always win without too many problems, so it's comprehensible that they get shocked by such a first experience. The result is that they stop trying, convincing themselves that "PvP is not for me", "PvP is full of assholes", "i'm not going to give PvP a chance any more", etc. How many of you like to play PvP for fun, without worrying about winning, or about a title? How many of you would like to have a nice, quick PvP format to play in when you have only half an hour to spend? I like to think that there are a lot of people who would like an RA without a title, without people always looking at your build to see if it's a meta one, screaming at you, telling you to gtfo noob, asking to resign, etc. Maybe i'm too naive, maybe i'm a dreamer... ...but you know, dreaming is free |
Ninja Ninja
Some people just won't rest until all of pvp is removed...
If you want to do something productive OP why don't you start coming up with or thinking of possible solutions to the RA syncing because anet already tried to fix it and failed.
If you want to do something productive OP why don't you start coming up with or thinking of possible solutions to the RA syncing because anet already tried to fix it and failed.
dusanyu
Just learn to pvp and sync teams wont be an issue
Swahnee
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Smart idea, remove glads from ra so when people try to get into TA they have no means of getting glad ranks, and teams will be looking for ranked players. So smart.
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Obviously, if we change things so drastically in RA/TA we can't pretend to maintain the same attitude than before. The mechanic that make people accumulate glad points in RA, and then show them off in TA to get in groups isn't set in stone. We were used to that mechanic because RA had the glad title, and things were easier in this way because of this fact, but if things changed we obviously would have to change our minds too. Which means stop thinking that the only way things can work out is to accumulate glad in RA and then use them in TA. People would learn to grow their title in TA, in the same way people now have to learn to grow their title in HA.
Martin Alvito
Changed title, as the original didn't explain the thread's purpose.
OP, you're being a little histrionic here. You "need" a response? The sandbox should be detonated because you don't like the way the other kids play in it?
Have a little perspective.
I wouldn't mind seeing TA's return and the removal of Glad from RA. Randoms used to be a fun, casual arena before title tracks. I'm not sure that there would be enough of a player base to sustain it without the title grinders, though. We don't want to create another TA or Codex where losing and re-entering means facing the same team again.
OP, you're being a little histrionic here. You "need" a response? The sandbox should be detonated because you don't like the way the other kids play in it?
Have a little perspective.
I wouldn't mind seeing TA's return and the removal of Glad from RA. Randoms used to be a fun, casual arena before title tracks. I'm not sure that there would be enough of a player base to sustain it without the title grinders, though. We don't want to create another TA or Codex where losing and re-entering means facing the same team again.
snaek
i have no doubt in my mind that ra will still get play without a glad title.
Sirius Bsns
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so you want something removed, that people still have fun with, just because you're butthurt about syncers? That's pretty dumb.
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i have no doubt in my mind that ra will still get play without a glad title.
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Swahnee
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I wouldn't mind seeing TA's return and the removal of Glad from RA. Randoms used to be a fun, casual arena before title tracks. I'm not sure that there would be enough of a player base to sustain it without the title grinders, though. We don't want to create another TA or Codex where losing and re-entering means facing the same team again.
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byteme!
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This is the kind of ludicrous crap you get when you pander to Care Bears.
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Del
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Uhm...iirc there isn't any kind of lower-level PvP behind HA. So, how could high-ranked people get their high rank in HA? Often people complain in these forums because they can't get into high-ranked groups in HA. What's the answer they get most often? Try to form your own groups or join an unranked group, get better and grow your title. Do you think this is "so smart"?
Obviously, if we change things so drastically in RA/TA we can't pretend to maintain the same attitude than before. The mechanic that make people accumulate glad points in RA, and then show them off in TA to get in groups isn't set in stone. We were used to that mechanic because RA had the glad title, and things were easier in this way because of this fact, but if things changed we obviously would have to change our minds too. Which means stop thinking that the only way things can work out is to accumulate glad in RA and then use them in TA. People would learn to grow their title in TA, in the same way people now have to learn to grow their title in HA. |
Zehnchu
This falls under match manipulation, but sense Anet can't do anything to stop it or even fix it it's fine.
snaek
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I would quit Guild Wars the day this happens... The only reason I play is for the titular inscentive of the Random Arenas Gladiator tier.
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(but if your being serious, then i feel sorry for you)
Lord Dagon
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Just learn to pvp and sync teams wont be an issue
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just learn how to PvP and do the best YOU can. if you lose the worst you could do is join them.
And FYI:killing titles and removing yet another of the original unsucky PvP arenas will only hurt PvP population.(at least it will kill it for any PvE people)
Airstu
I believe this is the OP's 6 month refresh of his jihad.
Gift3d
before, it was a problem. now after the update with all the districts being merged, it's really not. it's not that easy to do anymore, and if you stop thinking "me me me me" for two whole seconds and think about how RA works, anet has already done all they can to discourage players from doing it.
i take it you know the ins and outs in the technical languages that guild wars is composed of, so really, besides what anet has already done, what else is there to do? this is me trying to make you feel obligated to humor me with a response that isn't obscenely radical and illogical. i double dog dare ya, ohoho.
i take it you know the ins and outs in the technical languages that guild wars is composed of, so really, besides what anet has already done, what else is there to do? this is me trying to make you feel obligated to humor me with a response that isn't obscenely radical and illogical. i double dog dare ya, ohoho.
pumpkin pie
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I call shenanigans on the OP. The Support Team always signs their replies with signatures. If you can't be bothered to copy and paste who it was that sent you this, how can we be bothered to believe that the reply you say you got from them is valid? If it is valid, then no harm no foul, but as the post looks now, it seems to me you are making this up. I hope you understand where I am coming from. Anyone could write something like that up. It also looks way too informal to me to be an actual Support Team reply.
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1.Bring back TA, with glad title 2.Keep RA, but remove the glad title from it Snipped How many of you like to play PvP for fun, without worrying about winning, or about a title? How many of you would like to have a nice, quick PvP format to play in when you have only half an hour to spend? I like to think that there are a lot of people who would like an RA without a title, without people always looking at your build to see if it's a meta one, screaming at you, telling you to gtfo noob, asking to resign, etc. Maybe i'm too naive, maybe i'm a dreamer... ...but you know, dreaming is free |
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I believe this is the OP's 6 month refresh of his jihad.
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@Gift3d
If ArenaNet did something for RA's sync problem, does that mean ArenaNet consider RA's sync to be a problem? They wouldn't be fixing it if they do not think it is a problem, right? Do you agree? If you agree read the following.
So, why the hell are the support team telling players it is not an offence to hit the enter button at the same time?
snaek
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So, why the hell are the support team telling players it is not an offence to hit the enter button at the same time?
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Sirius Bsns
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nice troll.
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In summary, if they take the Gladiator track from RA, there'd be ZERO reason for me to play anymore, and I'd totally be forced to quit and find me another game. I'm 100% aware and certain that there're alot of malicious "I-don't-care-no1-cares-L-O-L-LEAVE!!!1!eleven!!!" [email protected] out there who'd kick me in the @$$ on my way out, too. So they'd be inclined to /sign this suggestion with the greatest of ease simply to empty out the game even further because they probably don't care about the game anyway, and probably don't even play, so two birdies up to those who oppose.
Terrible Surgeon
Yeah while they are at it, remove every title from the game, delete UW and FoW and other crap like that, and remove Zkeys.
I vote for a clean game that offers no fun/challenge and we can all be the same with nothing driving us to continue playing a 5 year old game.
Wouldn't have to remove the title, just put it back to a 10 win limit then your ace is shipped off to TA. Nobody would do RA if it had no title linked to it. You know and I know it. It would be emptier than codex.
/notsigned
I vote for a clean game that offers no fun/challenge and we can all be the same with nothing driving us to continue playing a 5 year old game.
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The Real Avalon
Honestly.
Why do people synch?
The need for consecutive wins, that is all, to get their title in the fastest possible way.
With which builds do they synch? A stable and solid build that nets them 25 wins nearly every synch.
Is it the fastest build to do so? Not by a long shot.
Simple Fix: Change the need for consecutive wins for the Gladiator Title.
Multiply it by 3 so people won't complain about losing a lot of time and effort due to the non-retroactive nature of the title and raise the cap to 80.000 Points or so.
And simply grant a point per win.
That way people wouldn't rage if they didn't have a monk and just try to facestomp the opposing team. Synch teams wouldn't exist anymore if you kept the 25 win cap because it simply wouldn't be the fastest way to attain the title anymore.
This way RA would see a lot more play as well. I don't get to RA as much as I'd like to since I don't feel like leaving halfway my third match because I have classes or work.
Why do people synch?
The need for consecutive wins, that is all, to get their title in the fastest possible way.
With which builds do they synch? A stable and solid build that nets them 25 wins nearly every synch.
Is it the fastest build to do so? Not by a long shot.
Simple Fix: Change the need for consecutive wins for the Gladiator Title.
Multiply it by 3 so people won't complain about losing a lot of time and effort due to the non-retroactive nature of the title and raise the cap to 80.000 Points or so.
And simply grant a point per win.
That way people wouldn't rage if they didn't have a monk and just try to facestomp the opposing team. Synch teams wouldn't exist anymore if you kept the 25 win cap because it simply wouldn't be the fastest way to attain the title anymore.
This way RA would see a lot more play as well. I don't get to RA as much as I'd like to since I don't feel like leaving halfway my third match because I have classes or work.