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Lord Dagon

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

also told them that they needed to do WiK in a non "6 party and lvl 12 henchmen area" that was waht really annoyed me with wik.

mathiastemplar

mathiastemplar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

Denmark

Jade Reapers [JD]

W/

I really think Anet did good this time. We actually got a survey to share our opinions, great!

About the questions in the survey.
First of all, I think WiK was great, a bit short, but it's not a whole campaign afterall - just lore stuff.
Secondly, I think we will see much of the stuff soon, like similar stories in Cantha and Elona.
7 Heroes!!!! YES YES YES. All I can say. As others said, I like to play without relying on others and be able to take a break whenever I want to.
Also, 7 heroes would give us more creativity with builds it would be possible to solo everything (which is good since everything is META now).

7 heroes would let me do whatever I wish to do, whenever I wish to do it.

Thank you Anet, thank you.

Sytherek

Sytherek

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Florida, USA

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenomortis View Post
What?
Since when did a HoM statue mean anything more than a new weapon?
At least you can show off a new weapon for the sake of vanity.
A HOM statue means more points for my GW2 characters. That has meaning. A cool/unusual minipet can be shown off in town, or just make me happy. Hell, I'd rather have 20 lockpicks instead of another weapon! A costume might be nice, so you can wear it in town to show you've completed the content.

GIVE PEOPLE CHOICE. What's wrong with that? If you want a weapon, good for you! I'd like something different.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by mathiastemplar View Post
We actually got a survey to share our opinions, great!
Yeah, but I'm wondering if they'll show us the results.

Scarlett Romanov

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
Yeah, but I'm wondering if they'll show us the results.
Hopefully in terms of improving future content.

However, since its a bit late and the next beyond update should be out by earily november, I'm guessing its too late to take the fb into acct.

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sytherek View Post
So who cares what OTHER people run? I never understood that attitude... so what if someone lack imagination or skill? How does it hurt YOU?

I do lots of HM/Books/Dungeons/Vanquishing on a Ranger and a Rit. NEITHER runs a Discordway or Sabway or any other "way" from PVX Wiki.

And I just DELETED my long post, in deference to INde...
Did you really just spaz at a post I made to clarify the max amount of necro heroes one player can have is 3?
If you want to take it in that direction than obviously people combining 2 over powered hero builds is going to mean trouble for the difficulty of pve but who cares.

Hal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Boston Guild

R/

I did take the survey. I only made comments on the sections that needed to be stressed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobi Madera View Post
also told them that they needed to do WiK in a non "6 party and lvl 12 henchmen area" that was waht really annoyed me with wik.
I agree with the lvl 12 henchmen. Did the content on Hard mode to make up for the level difference.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sytherek View Post
The reward, as always, was useless. Anyone who can access WiK isn't going to need yet-another "max" weapon. I'd have gladly traded a dozen "Medals of Honor" for a dozen Royal Gifts.

Give me a reward that MEANS something, like a HOM statue. I don't need another silly weapon.

Yes, I said that in the survey.
I agree with the weapon part. As a special reward, I personally would like to have armor with my Guild Emblem on it. Sometimes the cape is a little too much.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I need replacement Golem manuals as I discarded mine except for a few to even do this.I will say this this it sure messing up LA to Sanctum Cay Runs and what if you are helping a low lvl guildie out with all those 20s.

Emily Diehl

Emily Diehl

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

ArenaNet Home Base

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov View Post
Anyone know if the boxes have a character limit? I have a lot to say about the WiK content. I want to know if I'll be able to fit my long ramblings, otherwise I might not bother.
There shouldn't be a character limit for the box itself, but try to keep your thoughts as concise as you can. We're going to be reading them all, and there are already thousands to go through!

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sytherek View Post
Give me a reward that MEANS something, like a HOM statue. I don't need another silly weapon.

Yes, I said that in the survey.
Actually I dont really mind their green commemorative weapons, EXCEPT that they do not have Scythes or Spears. Scythes and Spears are the two rarest weapon types in the game and I expected them to at least have unique scythes and spears at the end after going through all that.

So yes, their rewards can be improved upon.

Jk Arrow

Jk Arrow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

WI

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emily Diehl View Post
There shouldn't be a character limit for the box itself, but try to keep your thoughts as concise as you can. We're going to be reading them all, and there are already thousands to go through!
I would be impressed by this. I think it would also be beneficial to share the results if you are allowed to. I'm guessing most of the answers for each question can be lumped into 2-3 common themes. The results for the 7 hero question will be revealed when we either get 7 heroes or we don't.

Thanks for taking the time to listen to the community and I hope this continues throughout the rest of GW and into GW2.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

I like the idea of using Surveys. Kudos, Anet

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

The problem with weapons (which I voiced in the comments) was that in 5 years of playing, I (and probably most people) already got all the weapons I really need/want.

Horace Slughorn

Horace Slughorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU]

W/

lol 7 heroes... cause this game is so hard!

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horace Slughorn View Post
lol 7 heroes... cause this game is so hard!
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...8&postcount=31

Lol reading, who needs it.

Quote:
The results for the 7 hero question will be revealed when we either get 7 heroes or we don't.
Or [conspiracy] even if the vast majority of votes will be "yes, gibe" and it won't be revealed, they still can not give us 7 heroes and people will think that players didn't want them. [/conspiracy]

Horace Slughorn

Horace Slughorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU]

W/

I like how you tell me not to discuss 7 heroes and then go on to do so yourself. Well done

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by blacksephir
Quote:
People who want 7 hero parties are power craving loners. kthnxbai.
So, people who want 8 players parties with cons and pve skills are who? Cheaters?
So yeah, bye. Take the quest "in search of a clue".
i don't want either of those things. what does that make me?

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

If you don't want 8 player parties with cons and stuff then I'd suggest looking for a new game, since it doesn't look like they're going to remove cons and pve skills.
Couldn't really care less what does that make you, you can think that it does make you a snowflake.
Quote:
I like how you tell me not to discuss 7 heroes and then go on to do so yourself. Well done
Psst- I was not talking about 7 heroes but about the possibility of hiding the results of the survey. Nice reading comprehension.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horace Slughorn View Post
lol 8 humans with cons and overpowered pve skills... cause this game is so hard!
Fixed it for you.

ilr

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2010

[Abandoned acct]

Too much contradiction in this thread... Why not just go with Emily's point:
Keep it CONCISE. No TL;DR rants or copy pastas about 7 hero parties.
For the record: I didn't even say whether I was against them or for them. ...and I'm not going to either.

But I will say: Eve + Mehnlo = infinite Orison spamming and that trumps a bad PuG "human" monk any day

Also: I didn't like running back to Invader Ego everytime I wanted another round of Artillery while H4xx0rz mobs magically spawned directly behind me.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilr View Post
But I will say: Eve + Mehnlo = infinite Orison spamming and that trumps a bad PuG "human" monk any day

Also: I didn't like running back to Invader Ego everytime I wanted another round of Artillery while H4xx0rz mobs magically spawned directly behind me.
Considering the high end areas since they have the greatest impact to the economy, all the speed clears are done by full human teams.

This clearly shows that cons+pve skills+human co-ordination are still A LOT SUPERIOR to any heroes AI in the game.

Like I have said before, the biggest advantage heroes have over humans are that they are RELIABLE, they are always good in certain things (you dont have to stand in a desolated town to LFG for hours) and terrible in most others, but they suck in a predictable way. However, humans players are still a lot more efficient and powerful than heroes. Don't confuse reliability with efficiency.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Yarr, Heros shall burn! No for hero team!

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

I wish I remembered to put I wish we got a HoM reward in at least a monument thing but preferably the weapons being HoMable.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horace Slughorn View Post
lol 7 heroes... cause this game is so hard!
I will react on this.....

NO you wont... ye I want to....shut the..... Ye but.... NO NO NO

ok.. You know what I want.


Uhmmm o yea nice survey..

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

In light that this was asking for feedback for WiK, for those players coming in later, or for those of us bringing multiple characters or accounts through later, it may be very difficult to find even a partner for Battle for Lion's Arch.

Anyways I made my submission, generally being greedy, asking for more content faster, and that the Oppressor skins are nice but I don't have room for more stuff that's essentially equivalent to what I already have, and that the green drop rate for WM greens was frustrating.

Life Bringing

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fissure of Woe

[LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]

N/P

You shouldnt need a partner for BLA NM. It really wasn't that hard. BLA HM on the other hand has thus far required a partner, but that's purely for bragging rights.

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Life Bringing View Post
You shouldnt need a partner for BLA NM. It really wasn't that hard. BLA HM on the other hand has thus far required a partner, but that's purely for bragging rights.
Speak for yourself - some of us suck, you know

An awesome opportunity for customer feedback - and I can't wait for the feedback feedback!

Thanks, ANet

Ranger Jaap

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

7 heros YES YES YES.

Oh yeah the people that say that the 7 hero people are loners are just stupid.

I want 7 heros to try out new teambuilds.

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

Are We Friends [NLT]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger Jaap View Post
7 heros YES YES YES.

Oh yeah the people that say that the 7 hero people are loners are just stupid.

I want 7 heros to try out new teambuilds.
yay for new teambuilds! I have a feeling that they will almost always consist of 3 necro's, 1 or 2 mesmers and the rest filled up with rits, ele or monks but who cares!

Ildanach

Ildanach

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

Watchers of the Way

W/

Full hero team sounds good, I honestly have no interest in making a team with random obnoxious strangers.

I know a small minority is against it, I just do not see why. The argument is that it will kill off "pugging" but surely those that like to pug will still do so and those that dislike it will have a decent option for a change. If I was one for making groups I think I would rather have someone that wants/likes to "pug" rather than someone that is doing it with me because they have no choice.

Everyone should rather look to the future, Guild Wars 2 will effectively kill "pugging" anyway, the sudden movement of players to Guild Wars 2 makes this a certainty. So why not plan ahead and create the option for full hero teams for the few that remain or still casually play, they will need it.

Anon-e-mouse

Anon-e-mouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

@ Home

League Of Friends [LOF]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilr View Post
...Technically they already did when Gee overhauled all the Henchmen. ...I mean really, what's the average solo power gamer going to do with 4 more heroes he couldn't already do with 3?
Run better versions of the henchmen, NONE of whom have anything in the shape of insignia, or runes (including Vigor runes), and don't even have (say) 20/20 staff's or proper maxed weapons.

Heroes > henchmen hands down, it's not even about running retarded builds. It's about not having the henchies drop down dead at the first sight of Firestorm, and about customising the heroes to the mission/area you are doing instead of accepting generic henchies.

Kranas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2010

Would be nice to be possible "1 man" UW/DoA etc because cap on heroes was raised to 7.

Anon-e-mouse

Anon-e-mouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

@ Home

League Of Friends [LOF]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emily Diehl View Post
There shouldn't be a character limit for the box itself, but try to keep your thoughts as concise as you can. We're going to be reading them all, and there are already thousands to go through!
OMG!! 3 Community Manager posts in 2 days.. The worlds ending, the worlds ending.. Or maybe (just maybe) they actually want to win that GDC CM award..

And yes I did enter my thoughts in the survey.

rokocoko

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

E/

First of all, I'm glad Anet still takes interest in what we think (I hope).

The only downside I see of the new content was the high difficulty of The Battle for Lions Arch, considering it can't be done with heroes & henchmen only. Sure, it's doable right now, when you can still find PUGs, but will be harder and harder in the future, while the content gets older.

When I did it on my first character, was pretty easy to get into a party. However, if I'd start now the WiK content, finding a party would be difficult, if not impossible, for the preliminary quests. Even finding a party for BLA is hard these days. Luckily, I'm in the right guild, but still...

I think that the possibility to take a full heroes party could easier the task, or even getting level 20 henchmen in Normal Mode (with improved AI?).

Considering the rewards at the end of WiK, I was happy with what I got, but I would be even happier if I could add the Oppressor weapons to my Hall of Monuments.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

i'm kinda bad at the game itself thanks to my handicaps (said this before) and thats 1 point why i like 7 heroes

as i said, i'm bad at the game, especially WiK, but that doesnt mean i dont like it
also i voted for the parts where they ask about whether we like or dont like such contents, with contents and stories and such (dont remember how the questions were)

and i voted for good of course, as i like more contents like WiK
i also put something about me liking 7 heroes for some reasons at the question about full hero teams

last part wasnt bad, as it's about the survey

anyway, i really like it (the survey) and this happened just before i lost all of my hope about full hero teams
meaning it came just in time for me

not only the full hero team made me happy, i also, as i said, like the questions about WiK, and hope they add full hero team, so i can do the next content with heroes some easier, and try to make nice builds myself, as i think discord gets boring :P

i just hope there will be a part of such content in maguuma jungle, i love that place

Highlander Of Alba

Highlander Of Alba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Real Rogue Clan

Rt/Mo

Like most of the posts above I completed the survey..

Did say the Battle for Lions Arch can pose a problem if other pugs not available.../guildies ..

Just to reiterate the last post I made on 7 heros Regina jumped in and put an end to the speculation of having 7...lets see if it happens again

other than that did say the content was good and perhaps looking forward to the link to Cantha with ..yes another hero discussed there..that will make 27 in total we have

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

7 heroes is very unlikely right now.

But remember it has not been completely discarded.
It's just that irght now it would be actually bad rather than good, considering the number of people that plays right now.

But when GW2 goes out, most of the people will move there, but people will be still buying the game, since being sold in Steam guarantees that (Games over 25 years old are actually still being sold in Steam, and still being bought!).

So, if they ever add 7 heroes, it should be around GW2's release.

I wrote that myself in the survey.

Sytherek

Sytherek

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Florida, USA

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
yay for new teambuilds! I have a feeling that they will almost always consist of 3 necro's, 1 or 2 mesmers and the rest filled up with rits, ele or monks but who cares!
Yup, I want to try creating different team builds. I never use PvX Wiki, and have never run Sabway or Discordway. I never run Spiritway in the sense of copying the PvX builds, and never take more than one Rit hero.

And yes, I do lots of HM.

My dream team:

Tahlkora (Smite/Heal)
Acolyte Jin (Volley/Daze)
Melonni (Reaper's Sweep Scythe)
Jora (Hundred Blades or Dragon Slash)
Hayda (Spear/Buff/Cautery Sig sometimes)
Gwen (Panic/Psychic Instability Interrupter)
Xandra (Prot/Heal)

I want to build synergies, try out weird ideas...

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

Are We Friends [NLT]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sytherek View Post
Yup, I want to try creating different team builds. I never use PvX Wiki, and have never run Sabway or Discordway. I never run Spiritway in the sense of copying the PvX builds, and never take more than one Rit hero.

And yes, I do lots of HM.

My dream team:

Tahlkora (Smite/Heal)
Acolyte Jin (Volley/Daze)
Melonni (Reaper's Sweep Scythe)
Jora (Hundred Blades or Dragon Slash)
Hayda (Spear/Buff/Cautery Sig sometimes)
Gwen (Panic/Psychic Instability Interrupter)
Xandra (Prot/Heal)

I want to build synergies, try out weird ideas...
I agree, 7 heroes would allow us to be a lot more creative.
I can't wait to test a lot of cool, funny and unlikely combinations

Aljasha

Aljasha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

I like taking surveys for games in ongoing support. I hope we'll see some more in the future of GW1 & 2.