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Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

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YOU KEEP GWAMM IN GW2

Ive said this like 20x today xD
Sweet, overall not a bad way of dealing with the issue. After a few hours of horsetrading I got my 50/50. Seems like all issues were resolved successfully. perma-pre LDoA never got a back door to the HoM, but with this system it really isn't necessary, but would still be nice. Anet actually did a good job with the HoM.

TheRanger

TheRanger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Do these accomplishments need to be displayed to be counted? So for example you need several characters to fill 50/50?

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

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Originally Posted by TheRanger View Post
Do these accomplishments need to be displayed to be counted? So for example you need several characters to fill 50/50?
No, they just need to be recorded in your HoM - on any character.

TheRanger

TheRanger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
No, they just need to be recorded in your HoM - on any character.
My primary character nearly has GWAMM minus a few titles but the site's only recording a few.

I got:
Eternal Skillz
activeEternal Gladiator
activeEternal Protector of Tyria
activeEternal Savior of the Luxons
activeEternal Protector of Elona
activeEternal Legendary Skill Hunter
activeEternal Survivor
activeEternal Hero of Cantha
activeEternal Hero of Elona
activeEternal Conqueror of Sorrow's Furnace
activeEternal Conqueror of the Deep
activeEternal Conqueror of Urgoz's Warren
activeEternal Conqueror of the Fissure of Woe

13 titles

I definitely have a lot more. What's up with this?

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Have you gone to the HoM with the character who has achieved the Cartography titles and recorded them? The game does not automatically add titles to your HoM. You have to manually tell the HoM that you want it displayed.

NeNe

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2010

Anyone has an idea of how recent the elite area completion must be so that it could be added to the HoM achievements?

I remember doing Urgoz, Deep and DoA (yes, killed Mallyx) back then before EotN was released. Now when I returned and completed EotN and went to the HoM in order to add my achievements there, the game doesn't recognize me having done those things. It does recognize all other things of course, just those elite areas are uncounted.

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

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They have to have been completed since the EoTN was released.

V??na R??nd??ttir

V??na R??nd??ttir

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Hong Kong

Astral Travellers[OBE]

R/

I won a mini panda once in an art contest. I've never been able to afford to buy such a rare pet, though people seeing him assume I'm rich. So while I kind of like that the ridiculously high prices may not be maintained for rare pets in GW1, (so that I may hope to buy more for my collection) I'm also quite disappointed that I won't be able to take my panda along to GW2 with me. I held off dedicating him to see what the GW2 rewards might be like, but now I think he may have the same monetary value in GW1 whether I dedicate him or not. Actually, I don't really care about his monetary value, but it seems odd that a rare pet like a panda won in a contest should have the same value in terms of GW2 rewards as a mini Shiro bought in game for 25K gold.

So I'm now hoping that like a "God Walking" title, my panda might become a GW2 reward separate from the points system. Or perhaps that people like me who won pets, rather than bought them (since gold sources are sometimes suspicious), get some recognition for that achievement in GW2.

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

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Now that I'm looking at the rest of the titles, I'm starting to wonder if they'll allow you to select the earlier titles even though you've reached the full 30/30 points. I really wouldn't mind keeping that "Rift Warden" title.

Adul

Adul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post
Now that I'm looking at the rest of the titles, I'm starting to wonder if they'll allow you to select the earlier titles even though you've reached the full 30/30 points. I really wouldn't mind keeping that "Rift Warden" title.
You can, according to the HoM Calc FAQ, use any of the titles you have earned. So someone with 50 points will get access to 10 titles inherited from the HoM at the start of GW2.

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

W/

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Originally Posted by Adul View Post
You can, according to the HoM Calc FAQ, use any of the titles you have earned. So someone with 50 points will get access to 10 titles inherited from the HoM at the start of GW2.
Oh awesome! I didn't realize there was a faq on the main page. Thanks a lot for the info. That Rift Warden title is sounding pretty good to me right now.

germanturkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

[PoW]

E/

7/50. i clearly don't title grind like the rest of you

Kosar The Cruel

Kosar The Cruel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2010

Ontario, Canada

D/

I must say I love this HoM Calculator. Gave me something to do the past couple days and will probably continue to give me something to do for a bit. ^.^
I love the way Anet did the rewards. Nice to see they put some thought into the rewards and have a nice balance(?) for the rewards for the casual and hardcore gamers.

37/50 - Soon to be 40/50
Love ya Anet. lol

Mordiego

Mordiego

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pozna??, UTC+1

We Are From Poland [Pol]

N/A

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X View Post
... Extreme achievements like high pvp rank or GWAMM are completely ignored which is pretty typical of ANET. They should not put stuff in the game that they refuse to recognize imo...
Populism FTW. Anet always goes forward to please the majority, but no rewards for dedicating Asian minis is just a spit in the face of those more dedicated gamers imo.
But how can we blame anet? it all for the money, innit, and it's the mob that pays not the dedicated players

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

I got 50/50 woot

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

hah just came back after 9 months of not playing and saw this update
im at 27/50 with 0 minis in the hom area xD
opened my 4th year present and bam eye of janthir ^^
only 1 gold mini for the magic 30 :P

btw - the prices for that vabbi armor are ridiculous - now who's laughing for getting one when they were ugly

and - does anyone know if the armor rewards from HOM will scale with level in GW2? or are they only for the lower lvls

Reflect

Reflect

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Varna,Bulgaria

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

W/

50/50
http://hom.guildwars2.com/#page=main...AAAdOogAAAAAAA
IGN: Reflect The Slayer

Grj

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Originally Posted by Mordiego View Post
Populism FTW. Anet always goes forward to please the majority, but no rewards for dedicating Asian minis is just a spit in the face of those more dedicated gamers imo.
But how can we blame anet? it all for the money, innit, and it's the mob that pays not the dedicated players
What dedication? Correct me if i'm wrong but to get an asian mini you have to:

Get lucky
Grind like a crazy bitch and/or obtain via some sort of expoilt
From a game contest

You've recieved your reward, you got the mini.

I'd rather anet not spend time making an item in gw2 that a person can only obtain via dedicating one of these asian mini's or any other rare mini.

On a side note i'm amazed how more active my allience and others has become now people arn't speding all their time alone being title bitches. They actually want to do stuff with the guild now instead of +1'in a title

Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

I completed DoA and Urgoz, but i think it was done before GWeN was released so it didn't count for my HoM.

Adul

Adul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grj View Post
What dedication? Correct me if i'm wrong but to get an asian mini you have to:

Get lucky
Grind like a crazy bitch and/or obtain via some sort of expoilt
From a game contest

You've recieved your reward, you got the mini.
Well the richest of the rich in GW (or any other online game with an economy) acquire most of their income by buying low from players, then selling high to players - an activity known as power-trading. It's true that power-trading requires some skill to be very good at, but basically anyone who can stomach the action and dedicate some time to it can make a lot of money by simply trading. And this is currently about the only way (save for bot-farming, duping, and real-life transactions) to acquire enough funds to buy rare miniatures in-game.

I don't think ArenaNet wants to reward power-trading, therefore these rare miniatures do not have any special value associated to them in the HoM.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

Well I'm sure I'll get flame over this opinion but I find the HoM too easy to 50/50, I'd sorta like to increase to cap, and add more non title rewards on upper end of the spectrum at more spaced out intervals. Plus I feel a lot of the Monuments are lacking.
Honor: IMO best implemented of the 5 requiring 40/52 titles, ~75% completion needed in the monument feels right. Would like to see added achievements for multiple pvp titles, possibly add 1 points each for having 2 and 3 pvp titles. This would also making it so people actually have to pvp to get full points.
Valor: 15/33 possible weapons, <50% completion getting 100% reward. add a point each for 20 and 25 weapons.
Resilience: 7/20 possible armors, again with valor but lower % completion. I would add a point for having 11 and 15 armors
Fellowship: 100% completion for 100% reward, perfect.
Devotion: 50/108 and growing minis available(next May it will at least 123 total). I'd like to see it a little higher to get it closer to the honors 76% completion than Valors 49% completion. add an extra point for having 60 and 70 minis each.
But even with this criticism I find they way they implemented the system is really good.

fortior

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2010

W/

Why spend dev time on rewards that less than 0.1% of the players will ever see/obtain?

Ewon

Ewon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Canada

Graduates of Pre Searing [GPS]

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon View Post
Well I'm sure I'll get flame over this opinion but I find the HoM too easy to 50/50, I'd sorta like to increase to cap, and add more non title rewards on upper end of the spectrum at more spaced out intervals. Plus I feel a lot of the Monuments are lacking.
Honor: IMO best implemented of the 5 requiring 40/52 titles, ~75% completion needed in the monument feels right. Would like to see added achievements for multiple pvp titles, possibly add 1 points each for having 2 and 3 pvp titles. This would also making it so people actually have to pvp to get full points.
Valor: 15/33 possible weapons, <50% completion getting 100% reward. add a point each for 20 and 25 weapons.
Resilience: 7/20 possible armors, again with valor but lower % completion. I would add a point for having 11 and 15 armors
Fellowship: 100% completion for 100% reward, perfect.
Devotion: 50/108 and growing minis available(next May it will at least 123 total). I'd like to see it a little higher to get it closer to the honors 76% completion than Valors 49% completion. add an extra point for having 60 and 70 minis each.
But even with this criticism I find they way they implemented the system is really good.
Although i am very impressed with what they have given us so far, I have to agree with several of your points. I too felt that it was a little to easy to get 50/50. 50/100+ minis seemed a little low to me, though I don't want to see a reward for getting all of them.

AS there is still more content to come, I;m wondering how this will affect the HoM/rewards. WIll there just be more options added with the new weapons/minis, or will they add a few more requirements to the HoM?

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

50/50 isn't very difficult at all. ANyone playing GW1 for the past few years can easily achieve it.

What annoys me most is the way ANET handled GWAMM title progression in GW2. For more on that, go to this thread:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/gwamm-t10454184.html

Adul

Adul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

I think there is a flaw in some people's perspectives here.

Getting 50 points is no small achievement by any means. It takes hundreds upon hundreds of hours of purposeful gameplay, more time than most GW players ever spend playing the game. You cannot get 50 points without either playing for years, or sacrificing a large chunk of time to play GW each day over the course of months.

I don't think most people who have achieved 50 points understand the amount of work it took them, ironically. Maybe because they got all of their points at once, when the website was released a few days ago.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

So wait, all the people who duped and are amongst the lucky few who are able to buy the super expensive minipets won't get rewards in GW2?

Finally something Anet has done right.... (no sarcasm)

The one reason I was always scared of HoM was that it would privilege those who duped and were the only ones able to purchase every minipet. Good to see that the game doesn't draw lines between the different minipets, because offering rewards for GW1 gameplay, and offering rewards for having abused certain mechanics or exploits in GW1 are 2 different things.

Money in GW1 should not be the base for rewards in GW2, looks like Anet did it right.

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vàna Rúndóttir
So I'm now hoping that like a "God Walking" title, my panda might become a GW2 reward separate from the points system. Or perhaps that people like me who won pets, rather than bought them (since gold sources are sometimes suspicious), get some recognition for that achievement in GW2.
I mean absolutely no disrespect when I say this, but you already got recognition for placing in a GW1 art contest. In addition to the mini, I believe you got other prizes and your piece is still on display for the world to see.

Rare minis in GW2 should be earned through GW2 contests or promotions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adul
I think there is a flaw in some people's perspectives here.

Getting 50 points is no small achievement by any means. It takes hundreds upon hundreds of hours of purposeful gameplay, more time than most GW players ever spend playing the game. You cannot get 50 points without either playing for years, or sacrificing a large chunk of time to play GW each day over the course of months.

I don't think most people who have achieved 50 points understand the amount of work it took them, ironically. Maybe because they got all of their points at once, when the website was released a few days ago.
He has a valid point.

I often forget how much time I spent on my monk when I was working on GWAMM. I also forget how much money I blew on countless sets of armor, consumables for the titles, and other stuff. It's really is easy to say 50/50 is a walk in the park when you logged on the other day to see that you don't have to worry about it!

That being said, I don't think it's going to be hard for people to get 30 or even 50 points if they actually want the rewards.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon View Post
Well I'm sure I'll get flame over this opinion but I find the HoM too easy to 50/50
What makes you think they were designed to be hard?

Quote:
What annoys me most is the way ANET handled GWAMM
Uh, what did they do wrong?

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
What makes you think they were designed to be hard?


Uh, what did they do wrong?
Since people have a tough time understanding what they read, I will break it down real nice and simple:

The way ANET implemented GWAMM carryover is like this:
If you have one GWAMM character in GW1, then you can display GWAMM on ALL your characters in GW2

The way it should have been implemented is as follows:
If you have one GWAMM character in GW1, then you can display GWAMM on only ONE chosen character in GW2. Thus, people with multiple GWAMMs can display on more characters in GW2. More work done in GW1 should carryover equally in GW2. It has nothing to do with money!

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

^they introduced gwamm in the first place. thats what they did wrong.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

There is one thing I wish they would have use as reward that wasn't there, Divine Aura. I can only hope this would be added latter, perhaps as a 50/50 reward.

fortior

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2010

W/

No, no, no, no divine aura for HoM
That will probably either not be there at all (art direction decision) or be a thing obtained by the collector's edition (you know, like in GW1).

Less throwbacks to a six-year old game please. GW2 is a fresh wind, these HoM things are really sweet but lets not overdo it.
If you want to show off in outposts do it in GW1 imo.

Adul

Adul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Originally Posted by fortior View Post
No, no, no, no divine aura for HoM
That will probably either not be there at all (art direction decision) or be a thing obtained by the collector's edition (you know, like in GW1).

Less throwbacks to a six-year old game please. GW2 is a fresh wind, these HoM things are really sweet but lets not overdo it.
If you want to show off in outposts do it in GW1 imo.
I agree. Promotional items should definitely not be carried over to GW2. Promotions are rewards in themselves, they do not need to be further rewarded in a circular manner.

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mage767
The way I think it should have been implemented is as follows:
If you have one GWAMM character in GW1, then you can display GWAMM on only ONE chosen character in GW2. Thus, people with multiple GWAMMs can display on more characters in GW2. More work done in GW1 should carryover equally in GW2. It has nothing to do with money!
Fixed it for you.

Every title they have told us about so far is account wide... and you're complaining? Seriously? Nobody forced you or anybody else to get more than one GWAMM. That was your choice.

I wish people would stop feeling like they are entitled to additional perks because they have a 15 inch e-peen.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adul
I agree. Promotional items should definitely not be carried over to GW2. Promotions are rewards in themselves, they do not need to be further rewarded in a circular manner.
I agree. I'm not hoping to carry anything like that over, but I do hope a few weapons like the Glacial Blade might make it into the GW2 arsenal as drops or something. It's an awesome sword and hardly anybody used it in GW1 because of the stats.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

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Originally Posted by mage767 View Post
50/50 isn't very difficult at all. ANyone playing GW1 for the past few years can easily achieve it.
Ehh no, not unless people want to grind mindlessly, I'm glad they made it so that people just playing the game can get some way to get the items.

EDIT:

I've played pretty much since the start (off and on) and NEVER owned an ecto.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by mage767 View Post

The way ANET implemented GWAMM carryover is like this:
If you have one GWAMM character in GW1, then you can display GWAMM on ALL your characters in GW2

The way it should have been implemented is as follows:

How amusing. I'm eager to hear what makes your version better than ANet's other than "because I say so, durr".
Oh, and other than "because i've wasted so much time and now i feel like a sucker".

Quote:
More work done in GW1 should carryover equally in GW2. It has nothing to do with money!
If GW ever was "work" to you then I suggest you leave this game and its future instalments forever. Obviously it's not healthy for your mental health.

Quote:
There is one thing I wish they would have use as reward that wasn't there, Divine Aura
If you've ever wondered why some people make fun of players with gwamm- wonder no longer!

LocoStar

LocoStar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

N/

Now we can find that dedicating very rare minis to HoM was pointless, cuz its only necessary to add one "green" and one "gold" pet to get points, so Varesh and Rurik are good enough. It was no need do dedi Panda or Kanaxai

kryptina

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Most of us knew all along that it wouldn't be like that.

Sure maybe different tiers of minipets from white/purple/gold/unique but between a moa chick/dhuum/kanaxai... it's not like Anet to do something like that, besides, there are just too few to reward those players, and its not about rewarding the richest.

Divine Ashes

Divine Ashes

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chicago

LFG

R/

pretty much true lol. Unless they change something so that you can bring minis you've dedicated in your HoM to GW2

Gennadios

Gennadios

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by mage767 View Post
More work done in GW1 should carryover equally in GW2.
I agree. Fire God's Vabrances should have been 50/50 and no items should have even been handed out until 20/20.

Everything else, meh.