Life after 30 HoM reward items

I don't see how it actually could go over 50 points. The scale rewards you about half of the total points for trying your hand at everything the game has to offer (e.g. casual stuff), and the other half for dedicating more time to each of these and raising them to to the maximum level (e.g. hardcore stuff).

There are two areas which I can think of that are not represented evenly by the scale: one is PvP, and the other one is high-end miniatures. The PvP player base was not the central target crowd for this promotion, that is clear. As for high-end miniatures and other items, there were two ways to acquire these: through out of game promotions and through power-trading. Power-trading is clearly not an aspect of the game that Anet wants to reward.

If I was responsible for the point distribution among different in-game achievements, I wouldn't change anything about it. This is about as good as it can get.

I neeeeeeed those titles, beyond 30 so I am still grinding hard, and will for some time to come

I like how you think.

it's 6 months i've left GW for lack of interest, i came back just to fill up this 50 titles, and i'll probably quit again after that, waiting gw 2

5 years are a lot, not many games can entertain for so much time

The very best ones entertain for decades. Even though usually not continuously.

yea pretty much pointless after 30 if don't want the titles...
I might go for it after some time - once I rake as much gold as I can and then get the rest once the market is dirt cheap again

What about things like LDoA and Treasure Hunter (Wisdom being a distant third since you can flat out buy it)?

Getting to 30 is extremely easy with 50 not requiring a whole lot of effort beyond that. The only real issues I can see here are the required obsidian/vabbian and the recent surge in prices to everything HoM related which might be considered 'unfair'. Those things aside the bar here was set very low most likely to make the most people happy as possible...and it appears to have worked. Hardcore though? Not even close.

qft! 12345678

Exactly. But you gave me an idea. I am strong-arming one of my officers into working on his HoM (he has five points at the moment) and I will help him out. Maybe I could get my grandson to work on his once youth football season is over.

It's so important that they made 30/50 the cap for item rewards. The item rewards are what 99% of what players care about and like John Hargrove said, "There's more prestige stuff (titles, for instance) at the top, but everything is geared towards the bottom because we wanted to appeal more to the casual players." In the Kotaku article it continues to paraphrase, "One would think this sort of skew would infuriate the more hardcore, but the team collected feedback from players with less than 100 hours of play time to those with more than 12,000 hours, and everyone seemed satisfied."

Had 50 points been required to obtain maximum rewards the argument that rewarding certain achievements is unfair would become even stronger. I personally don't like FoW armour more than anything else each profession has the option of so I don't have it. If I needed 50 points and the item reward I wanted was the 50 point item I would have to buy armour I don't care about. Sure I ended up buying and accomplishing a lot of stuff I don't care much about to fill my hall (mini pets and weapons, I'm looking at you) but the combination of achievements to get up to 30 points is pretty varied and encompassed a lot of what I was already doing (and what didn't fit into their mold wasn't too difficult for me to complete).

I actually feel like I'm more likely to get to 50 points now that they are just titles compared to if they were item rewards. I wouldn't enjoy dragging myself up those last 19 points if I felt pressured into doing it so I could have a black widow spider or fiery gauntlet hands. Now I can continue to complete whatever goals or objectives I want to do to fill those final slots without feeling like it's required of me. One of my biggest dislikes in game designs is when they take something that you did for the sake of doing it (because you enjoyed it) and turn it into something you want to do because the reward is the one that you want.

I am happier now that I don't have to worry about maximum reward forcing me into scraping walls or farming ecto, I can complete the titles or buy the items I want to buy. I am happier they aren't telling me what to do next and thus more likely to invest time completing things in the game.

Well tbh I'm 47/50 so I am gonna try to max out. It's not likeI have some major thing to do... 16 minis and a tormy weapon more to gather around

Well, you can sit, and do something else excepting when there are festivals, or you can go for 50 and GWAMM.
It's your choice. No one forces you.
It's not like any person would laugh at your for having the extra titles or not.

Note that I said PERSON.

I'm kinda depressed i had mostly everything done when the HOM site went live...
only took me a few hours to top out at 50/50... it is discouraging there inst more because after 50/50...everything you do will probably be meaningless upon gw2 release.

That being said you got to admit hom site was the shock panels to guild wars flat-lined heart.... there now over 200 trades in kamadan on average... as apposed to the past two months when its been under 100.. Way more effective than any new content they made. Ive noticed areas are more populated too... there is way more demand for items that nobody cared about previously... but how long will it last?

It will probably be busy this week and the next, and again it will get busy a few weeks before GW2 is launched.

Can you imagine what it'll be like a week or two after GW2 is released?

I think what most people don't realize when they say 30-50 is useless is that every title in the HOM is a separate title track... not the all on one track so that means 10 separate titles.... if there is a max title track in GW2 and these count towards them... your going to want them.

http://hom.guildwars2.com/faq

I have to agree rewards stopping at 30/50 is pretty half ass on anets part.

I could give a rat's ass about titles, just like in GW. I play games for fun. I don't find titles fun.

I had 27 when I first checked. Logged-in after half a year of inactivity. Bought a couple cheap minipets, snagged armor remnants before prices skyrocketed. Added everything into HoM for 35/50. I'm done. Most likely won't touch GW for another couple months, if ever again.

Hmm...sounds like you won't be needing that gold or any other secret wonders tucked away in your Xunlai Chest...so...can I have it?

rewards for a game that does not exist playable yet have no impact on my current game play.

I will still be trying to do what I was before we had this information, and will continue to until I have completed those goals (vanquishing and then account wide titles), the only difference is now I know what the possible 'rewards' for having accomplished these will be.

so no, no different

How very appropriate for someone who has gwamm as his avatar. This may be a shocker, but not everyone treats video games as jobs.
You know why I don't do drunkard?
BECAUSE IT'S GOD DAMN BORING AND DOESN'T INVOLVE ANY GAMEPLAY.

I agree.. I was on vacation when this update came out.. returning to find I had all 50/50 points already made me feel a bit indecisive about my future in GW for the first time. I'm a player that has played non stop since the beginning, yes that means never taking a "break" from the game as I always found things to busy myself with. Even at the time of this update I was working on completing my wisdom/treasure hunter titles, but now they seem pretty useless and I have ceased working towards them.

I'm sure this update will bring back some old players to finish up their 30-50 points, so this update seems to be a good play on anet's part in that sense. But the same players will more then likely only stay until they complete their titles then be on their way yet again. So what is there really to look forward to for the players that still played on a regular basis after the 50 point HoM achievement besides waiting for GW 2? This certainly seems like the first time I will actually take a break from this game, maybe that's not such a bad thing.

As far as the WiK, I had completed the quest chain on all my characters and had sold all my extra medals long before this update. So now its not efficient to grind to get any more weapons for my HoM, it just seems like the sluggish players that might need a little bit of a prod to do certain things or all the "inconsistent" players get the advantage yet again. While the stable player base gets the shaft as usual, that's my perspective on it anyways. I do hope anet will consider the viewpoint of the stable player base a bit more in the future as currently it seems a lot of them are not all that content.

What was there to look forward to before you found out about the HoM rewards? The potential of GW2 rewards for some arbitrary titles?
If the only reason you're playing is to get rewards in GW2 then yes, maybe it is a good time to stop playing once you've achieved those goals.

You're not part of the stable player base if you're going to quit because you've now got all your rewards, that is no different to the people popping back to the game to get their rewards before they stop again.
By definition, the stable play base is... stable, therefore it shouldn't matter what updates/changes/news ANet release, these players will should still be playing.

Much like myself, here is the example of my take on the "stable player base":

Clicking in an outpost is incredibly boring. Im thinking about doing it while using some of the deldrimor skills where you get some extra benefits while being drunk :/

You could always help the un-aimless that haven't reached 30/50.

LMAO snaek that's the best statement about the game I've ever read and most truthful hahaha Whatever happened to content for fun? Whatever happened to phat loot for fun? Whatever happened to role playing in these socalled roleplaying games? Whatever happened to the sword of destruction quest? You know after Prophecies I don't recall a single chapter offering up some form of weapon or offhand as a reward for completing missions? Prophecies offered up free skills as rewards for early questing. Then it all disappeared for just farming grind, farm farm farm the Griffons and Hydras and Ogres no more quests no more sweet rewards nothing but grind.

Frost, I sympathize. I'm at 48/50 with a few minor objectives left. Maybe the timing worked out well for me, cause I got my GWAMM the week before announcing HoM rewards. Honestly, I'm MORE excited to play now. I can do what I want, when I want. Or nothing at all. I've turned back into a casual player. I can safely say I'll probably be a lot less anal about who I group with and success or failure. The burden of constant progression is gone, and now I can just enjoy.

Not that I didn't enjoy title hunting, because I really did. And even though there are noobs who have it and it's not really indicative of skill, I proudly wear my GWAMM title. It was time well spent.

However, I can understand if people take it differently and don't have any purpose to play after achieving what they want. I guess I'm in my retirement phase now, I've just chosen to continue "working" cause I love what I do . Expect to see me in-game with strange builds, funny heroes, and doing things that a serious hardcore player wouldn't ever do.

WORK ON YOUR PVP TITLES DAMMIT!!!

Hiya theres so much in GW still to do - You can help me catch a Black Widow spider in UW for starters as I am pretty clueless there :O

Raping the Kurz in arenas is always great fun as I am still doing Luxon title.

Oh and if you were quitting can I have your ectos pls...

I'm actually enjoying drunkard. I dont mind clicking as I do stuff and actually find some sick satisfaction seeing the number go up over the weeks. I'm 50/50 but going to keep doing drunkard as well as keep playing the game cause its fun and now I'm more willing to help people max their stuff since I have no need for any of my cash and nothing but time =)

I'm not quitting the game exactly but "playing" the game I think I am done with for now. I'll probably become yet another stump in a random district for everyone to enjoy

Uherm... I have all the pvp titles I need aka Zaishen

I suppooooose I could help people complete their HoM... we shall see
I believe I have been helping as I've been drained of all unded mini's, mats, jade, and z-keys ect lately haha

I guess a few ectos wouldn't hurt either...

Had GWAMM earlier and when the HoM Calculator hit up, i was on 43/50 and had a few months long hiatus from GW. I've gotten the remaining points in about a week, despite that i had to farm/borrow over 1,2kk, and got into the game again - even though i've earned everything possible that transfers over to GW2 (as far as we know it), i started to enjoy the game once more and i actually do the wanted quests of SB and Zaishen, get another char through the game and help friends fill their HoMs.
I'll probably get a bit into PvP after a bit more of PvE, but not the 'hardcore seriously', just to try get more into something i've never really focused on.

I'm quite content with 40/50, the people that maxed all including the likes of treasure/zaishen etc. must be p*ssed though

they should be glad it has bin worthwhile for the 30 items

Been playing since the beginning


I have...

13/50

I agree. :]

When the HoM calc first went up I was sitting at 23/50 or something, but I was able to quickly push it up to 30 with a few several well placed ectos. Emptied half of my remaining platinum to reach 40/50 -- which is where I shall stay, because I'm a fan of one-word titles. The last two titles are prestigious, but they're too long and unwieldy for my tastes.

And I hate maxing titles!

Need some help?

You rock and I love how you think.

Yes I require assistance.

Will I get it?

Probably not.

But if people are actually wanting to help...

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This is what I got. Didn't know I could of just added Mox so I got 1 point yesterday.

I really really want 30 points though. I love Guild wars and been playing forever and I would like to show that off in the form of neat items. I have no cash though because I spent it on stupid crap (dyes, etc.) and I spent all my balth faction unlocking every single skill for Necro and Dervish.

Only to realize that I was an idiot.

you know we could help you telling what you should do, but someone wrote already a good guide you can find Stickied on top of this forum.

50/50 now and i am still having fun doing dungeons with alliance mates and RA. i am just glad to be done really, and it's been great buying items for cheaper than usual because people are selling so they can spend 45-50k a pop on minis they still need or 100k on oppressor weapons.