Life after 30 HoM reward items

Red_Dragon56

Red_Dragon56

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

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Originally Posted by lishi View Post
you know we could help you telling what you should do, but someone wrote already a good guide you can find Stickied on top of this forum.
Yup, read it, wrote a response. Having 250k isn't really something I just have lying around.

Spookii

Spookii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Southeast, USA

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Whut? I wondered why it wasn't showing any new items for me after I hit 30.

Well, this makes me feel a little bit better about not caring so much about hitting 50.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56 View Post
Yup, read it, wrote a response. Having 250k isn't really something I just have lying around.
You hardly need 250k to implement the suggestion on that guide.

250k might sound like a huge amount, but that is not a lot if you play the game with a goal, AKA without wasting money on stupid thing.

For example you havent done the following thing :
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First of all, play through all 3 campaigns and EotN, and beat the final missions and all bonus objectives (3 'hero' statues + 3 'protector' statues). I would recommend starting in Nightfall for the Heroes and faster attribute points.

Complete War in Kryta and get an Oppressor Weapon from your Medals of Honor earned.

Next, get one Rare Ranger Pet, and 2 Hero armors (~10k each) (+ 2 = 16)
Nothing the stuff above require any griding other then playing the game.

The only REAL thing who require money is buying minipet from other player.
And some armor if you are too lazy to get them yourself. But like i said just play the game with a goal in the mind, once you get to the point you need money you will notice you already have a pretty good amount stashed.


So far i see that guide is the fastest way to do it, with money or without.

If you think that is too hard or too much work well, you might as well give up then. You are not losing anything in guild wars 2 just some cosmetic stuff witch don't affect gameplay at all.
And this is true both for reward under 30/50 and over 30/50. I don't see the difference.
Both title and armor skin are cosmetic.

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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I got myself from 24 when it first came out to 40. Don't really feel like doing anything else as it would take a lot of time. I feel like I have nothing left to do lol

godis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

LOVE

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I really don't want them to add anything extra between 30 and 50
I played this game daily for 3 years now and I still have lots of work to get it to 30.
I understand the frustration for those who already had 45+ at introduction but you have to consider us non-ultra-skilled also

Duranin

Duranin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

East Coast

none

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lishi View Post
You hardly need 250k to implement the suggestion on that guide.

250k might sound like a huge amount, but that is not a lot if you play the game with a goal, AKA without wasting money on stupid thing.

For example you havent done the following thing :

Nothing the stuff above require any griding other then playing the game.

The only REAL thing who require money is buying minipet from other player.
And some armor if you are too lazy to get them yourself. But like i said just play the game with a goal in the mind, once you get to the point you need money you will notice you already have a pretty good amount stashed.


So far i see that guide is the fastest way to do it, with money or without.

If you think that is too hard or too much work well, you might as well give up then. You are not losing anything in guild wars 2 just some cosmetic stuff witch don't affect gameplay at all.
And this is true both for reward under 30/50 and over 30/50. I don't see the difference.
Both title and armor skin are cosmetic.
I guess this may be a bit silly of me, but I find that I'm generally able to accumulate 100k (or more) within a couple days of casual play if I do all the daily Zaishen/Wanted quests and PvP (RA/JQ) when I have nothing else planned. It's not hard especially since zkeys have went up about 500g each due to zrank being the "only" way for PvE-ers to get a PvP monument.

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

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I really do not care about it i have 39 points can get to 47 max but i have made allot of money thanks to those status hungry buttwhipes.
It's rather insane to see how many people go on a killing spree to get those HoM points.
I can't care less about everything.

Nekodesu

Nekodesu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2009

I got like, 45, or something. And now I finaly feel I can relax and play what I think is most fun. I went for GWAMM, and I only wanted one character with it, so I accomplished that. But when I look at the rest of the rewards, you know, the titles, I think to myself 'Okay, if I waste time now, trying to get the last titles, it will be useless when I get GW2. Cause despite those fancy titles and all, GW2 is gonna have other titles I probably wanna use more than the ones you get from this reward stuff.' If I do go for the titles, it's not intentional, but because there is for example a mini/weapon/hero/etc that I actually wanna add.

Either way, I think that perhaps you should stop playing Guild Wars, or do what you think is most fun to do. I don't think anybody can say anything else tbh...

I play PvP now, because I enjoy that the most. But I do enjoy PvE aswell. But now I feel it's time for some fun time 8D So now I'm playing alot of Aion instead :>

edit: Also, I feel alot of you pull all of us with you when you say you don't do titles cause it's like a job. What about us who enjoys having titles? To me titles are something that I have achived because for example I play good, or I eat candy(Haha) and therefor I don't see them as a job. If you seriously epic RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hate to do titles go play I dunno, something like fable, oblivion, mario(Btw I've never played these games except mario so I dunno if they got titles or not xD), or don't care about the titles, and what other people do with them. Some people enjoy the e-peen of having titles, while some enjoy the feeling of accomplishing a challenge and get a sort of credit for that.

Grav

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2010

New Zealand

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56 View Post
Yup, read it, wrote a response. Having 250k isn't really something I just have lying around.
I've never had 250k lying around either, but I just keep playing the game and spending my gold on individual things as I can afford them: a destroyer weapon here, an elite armor there etc.

Do it gradually at your own pace and you'll have a lot more fun as you go.

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

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Well, they wanted a decent reward for us. And I think we have it. But they did not want to reinvent Guild Wars in the process. It is a fair sized mountain but not an overwhelming one.

Since ANet would rather sell two games than just one, I would suppose they have future plans for more linkages between GW 1 and 2. Just my take on it, I could be wrong.

Sinborn

Sinborn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

California

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I have this sneaking suspicion that those titles are going to be like titles in other games with stats tied to them.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

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Originally Posted by Sinborn View Post
I have this sneaking suspicion that those titles are going to be like titles in other games with stats tied to them.
I doubt that very much. ArenaNet doesn't like to give exclusive buffs to players. They believe in having a level playing field. That's why all the items are cosmetic only.

fortior

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2010

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Originally Posted by Sinborn View Post
I have this sneaking suspicion that those titles are going to be like titles in other games with stats tied to them.
That would break with everything anet has said they stood for and believed in, not to mention everything they actually have done so far.
Smart money's on purely cosmetic.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Anet said GW was a PvP game. Anet said they wouldn't do micro-transitions (where these storage panes are). They promised bi-monthly updates. They promised skill updates, and so much more.

Anet is not a company to be taken on their word or values. They have already severely broken their No-grind rule, ESPECIALLY with this latest HoM update.

MrKGado

MrKGado

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

USA

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Originally Posted by Darcy View Post
Does anyone else feel aimless now that you already have earned all 30 items? I seem to have lost my sense of direction now that adding anything else to my HoM is just title grinding.

Eric Flannum said that they didn't add more items, just the titles, so that players wouldn't feel pressured to max out the rewards to 50. I don't think I would have felt pressured. I think it would have given me a goal. Now, unless I want to go for GWAMM, I have nothing left to do in the game.
I started with 27/50 and I'm already at 32/50. I'm focusing on achieveing GWAMM on my warrior. But I see where you're coming from if you don't care for the other titles or GWAMM.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

I had 19 points, and wanted to get to 35 for ghostly hero title, so this is what I did:

- Reinstalled GW
- Bought 3 sets of armor (luxon, canthan, one of the prophecies ones)
- One destroyer weapon
- A bunch of hero armors
- A bunch of pets (and opened presents for the past year on 10 characters)
- Tamed the black moa
- Played some ABs, cripshotted baddies and ranked their corpses

Got me to 35 points.

I should mention that I never cared about HoM before I quit the game almost 2 years ago and just did whatever I wanted and not grinded statues. You people make it seem like it's some obscene amounts of grind. It's not. I don't have ANY of the stupid grind titles maxed (no wis, treasure, alc/party/whatever, none of the eotn titles)

Pantaloon

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

If you are 50/50 with GWAMM and feel you have nothing left to accomplish try some PvP that isn't RA/FA/JQ/AB.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

I am not 50/50. I am 38/50. I'm not really interested in 50/50. To get 50/50, I would need to buy obsidian armor on one of my toons. I don't like FoW armor. It's unattractive at best on most classes. The only one I would have bought, ranger, was totally ganked by Monument, so I bought that instead. It's like FoW but with a coat!

My personal goal is 45/50. I think that title is Legend of the Mists. I like it.

I think it would be nice if things like Lucky/Unlucky, Treasure/Wisdom bonuses translated in some small way to GW2. Not to the extent that they are in GW1, but perhaps on the order of a small "leg up" with those.

My husband is 24/50. I'm just trying to get him to 30/50. Which requires him coming up off some bankroll. I swear he's the stingiest miser in the game!

SmokingHotImolation

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2008

Odense, Denmark

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Originally Posted by Pantaloon View Post
If you are 50/50 with GWAMM and feel you have nothing left to accomplish try some PvP that isn't RA/FA/JQ/AB.
Because pvp is in such a good state at this point?

I hit 50/50 and needless to say there is little things left to do for me. Now i just look forward to the promised new content, and the 7 hero update.

gw_poster

gw_poster

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

so cal

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did anet say the 50/50 rewards will come customized? presuming they are not, then i wonder what the market will be like for these items when gw2 first opens

i'm like many of the others having gotten GWAMM, then quit...now this! I'm at 38/50..having thought i would never have use for sin heroes i had to go and get anton and zenmai...wtb a butt-load of hero armors, and like 30 minipets

curse you anet, and curse the day i ever logged into GW

helloeveryone

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

none

Me/N

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Originally Posted by Pantaloon View Post
If you are 50/50 with GWAMM and feel you have nothing left to accomplish try some PvP that isn't RA/FA/JQ/AB.
I m 50/50 but i will still do the above you mentioned because it is where fun is for me.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by gw_poster View Post
did anet say the 50/50 rewards will come customized? presuming they are not, then i wonder what the market will be like for these items when gw2 first opens
The HoM rewards cannot be traded. Sorry, but you can drop your plans to be a rich newbie.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by fortior View Post
That would break with everything anet has said they stood for and believed in, not to mention everything they actually have done so far.
Smart money's on purely cosmetic.
I agree with you, it's not likely.

But before EoTN title grind i would have be sure of it.

Clobimon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

I'm over 30 points but it's given me motivation and direction also. For example, outside of my three Leg. Cartographers I'd never done Sahlahja for hero armor remnants. I only ever got one by chance while mapping with those three a long time ago. Last night I sat down with the intention of needing to do that repeatedly for a few hours. I did it one time and got 4 remnants! I only needed 3 since my Razah had Primeval. I wondered why I didn't do it earlier - outside of the pain it was to map. So anyway, just knowing there are some things I can finish up has gotten me into it a bit.

Shrii

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Force And Velocity [RUSH]

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When it first came out, I was super excited to see what I have unlocked and still needed to unlock - to find out I was already at 30.

Was a little sad that I didn't need to work for anything since I've wanted a reason to get back into GW, but a few days later I decided that getting the titles are just as rewarding as the items. So now I'm working towards 50 (since I was working towards my gwamm anyways). So far I'm at 35. Getting to 40 will be easy, but beyond that is going to be were the real struggle comes in.

I need to get off my lazy but and finish cartography. I have no patience for it, and even prefered vanquishing to map scrapping .

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Took 3 months off of the game, decided to load it up last night and was told about the calculator...46/50 needing like 22 minis and one oppressor weapon to max it out. Went through my mini storage and found 14 whites/purples that I hadn't dedicated. Now I need to buy up the rest of the 3rd/4th/5th year whites and fill it out, unless I can get 2nd and 3rd year purples at the same prices as 4th/5th year whites. Definitely not dedicating my celestials/yak/WiK golds or any other greens. when I'm done with work here and am back home with a fast connection, I'll finish up WiK for an oppressor weapon and sit pretty at 50/50.


Then I'll just work other characters through like I was before the break.

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

Are We Friends [NLT]

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I'm 50/50 and GWAMM and I must admit there is nothing interesting more to do in GW for me anymore HoM calculator kinda killed the spirit.

I'm thinking of taking a break and returning for Crysis in Cantha

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

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Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
I'm thinking of taking a break and returning for Crysis in Cantha
That's essentially what Anet wants to be the general practice - play until it stops being fun, then take a break

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
I'm 50/50 and GWAMM and I must admit there is nothing interesting more to do in GW for me anymore HoM calculator kinda killed the spirit.

I'm thinking of taking a break and returning for Crysis in Cantha
New Halloween quests today, yo.

Gwene

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

The rewards for 30/50 are nice but there should be an item or selection of items for 50/50. Titles are useless.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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The items are useless too. My guess is that they'll be just the same as every other item of the same type in GW2, just a different skin. And since most GW2 players will be returning GW1 players, just about everyone's going to have the same junk anyway.

Angel Killuminati

Angel Killuminati

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

UK

What are the titles that only require a level of 3 to enter into HoM? Are these the PvP ones?

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Here is a link to the Monument of Honor page on the wiki. The title list indicates which ones do not need to be max. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Honor%22

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
The items are useless too. My guess is that they'll be just the same as every other item of the same type in GW2, just a different skin. And since most GW2 players will be returning GW1 players, just about everyone's going to have the same junk anyway.
We all know that but it's not a problem, anymore than the titles now are used. Except for the ones tied to PvE skills or the EotN buffs, titles are useless except to bring back memories of working on them. I expect the HoM rewards to be the same. I'm sure we will all find armor/weapons/minis/pets that we like better, but we can always haul out the rewards to bring back our memories of GW.

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

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Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy View Post
Does anyone else feel aimless now that you already have earned all 30 items? I seem to have lost my sense of direction now that adding anything else to my HoM is just title grinding.

Eric Flannum said that they didn't add more items, just the titles, so that players wouldn't feel pressured to max out the rewards to 50. I don't think I would have felt pressured. I think it would have given me a goal. Now, unless I want to go for GWAMM, I have nothing left to do in the game.
I am still having fun playing with my guild, helping my friends and maybe just maybe filling the HoM with more than I need (yep obsessive completist, but thats why I have 50/50 and GWAMM - I dont see the point in titles, I just like finishing what I can)

As has been said if GW isn't exciting atm and you are not obsessive, have a break, go play minecraft :P

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

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Originally Posted by Gwene View Post
The rewards for 30/50 are nice but there should be an item or selection of items for 50/50. Titles are useless.
That's kinda the point.

helloeveryone

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

none

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yep i do hope that is some skin reward for 50/50. nothing flashy or "awesome" like the fiery glove, just something simple as a reward/souvenir for those that had 50/50

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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I think they left the last item at 30 so players wouldnt think they NEED to have 50/50 ....casual players will have a tough time getting 50/50 and new players as well. (just think of the cost of fow armor if you have a brand new account with no help from other accounts/storage)......so its to encourage people to get to 30 and still give something to those who have achieved more without making those who only got to 30 feel like the wasted their time ....that make sense???

and I still use some of the bonus items that we got from buying the ce editions and such...some of them are nice skins and when you are just starting out its nice to have one max weapon at least. So they might only be eye candy weapons, but YOU will know what YOU had to do to get them.

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
I think they left the last item at 30 so players wouldnt think they NEED to have 50/50 ....casual players will have a tough time getting 50/50 and new players as well. (just think of the cost of fow armor if you have a brand new account with no help from other accounts/storage)......so its to encourage people to get to 30 and still give something to those who have achieved more without making those who only got to 30 feel like the wasted their time ....that make sense???
The HoM is supposed to be a way for anet to reward the gw1 players who supported there company over the years through the achievements they obtained, since when did it have to cater to all the people who quit and the new players.
Do you think there's not going to be casuals who don't make 30/50 and will cry about it, so what difference does it make if casuals miss out on 50/50?

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja View Post
The HoM is supposed to be a way for anet to reward the gw1 players who supported there company over the years through the achievements they obtained, since when did it have to cater to all the people who quit and the new players.
Do you think there's not going to be casuals who don't make 30/50 and will cry about it, so what difference does it make if casuals miss out on 50/50?
This. Rewards favor the hard workers and those who put in the effort. If that's not your priority, then don't whinge about not getting the rewards. I don't whinge about not having a multi-billion dollar bank account just because others do...they put in the effort and made it happen. If I did the same, I'd be there myself.

Unfortunately, there will always be idiots out there who see people with the reward items/titles and launch into a fit of rage calling us no-lifers and losers, even if we don't use them to seem more important. I already get it from people when I run around with my GWAMM. "Oh, look at that loser with GWAMM....some of us have jobs that are more important." News flash numbnuts: I'm playing this from my job. Sorry for the rant.

Obey The Cat

Obey The Cat

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

FFS

Rt/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwene View Post
The rewards for 30/50 are nice but there should be an item or selection of items for 50/50. Titles are useless.
And why were people grinding for them without HoM?