Make Zaishen Title Count for PvE Only

Using trp for destroyer and torm weapons is irrelevant because you can't put those in the hall of monuments. and lazy pvers pay for runs through missions/vqs as well.

Also, where do i sign up for free monthly pve title points and trade zaishen coins for pve titles? or how about trapping for free title points? Eh?

That would be the Underworld.

Trapping underworld gives you vanquisher points? no? what about protector? no, guardian? no? Well, shit, i guess underworld isn't zaishen elite's equivalent.

And trapping the zaishen elite doesn't give fame, or gladiator points, or champion ranks. We can do this all day, but the dance is pointless.

It's all well and good to be standing up for principles, but the proposal needs to be discussed in regards to its tangible effects, not just its philosophy. At its core, this proposal would do one thing, and one thing only; fill RA with even more PvP newbies. It wouldn't revive HA, or make GvG more common, or anything else the PvP crowd seems to regard as elite and proper. All it would do is make people get a little more annoyed in their path to 50/50, and therefore try the simplest means to grind out their PvP requirement. That path of least resistance means Random Arenas, because anything else is a headache of networking and party seeking.

That won't make GW PvP a brighter place, and it certainly won't help the elite PvP crowd actually create a Hall they enjoy.

While I am sure that this issue is still dear to many here and would like to keep fighting for it one way or another, I get the feeling that just about all the arguments to make on this have been made, and that discussion here is ending up looking like points recycled from the first half of the thread. This thread has run its course, and unless someone has a big problem with that, or something about the HoM changes in the near future, discussion on this topic is now

Closed.