New Visions and Old Promises

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Karate Jesus
Karate Jesus
Forge Runner
#1
I've been looking at the list GWW keeps of the "upcoming changes and features" and laughed a little when I realized that several of those promised/worked-on changes are over a year old.

Now granted many of the features/changes on that list were from Linsey and she no longer works on GW1, but how do you feel about a feature that was supposedly "worked on" for months never coming to fruition?

We have just been given a blog post similar in size to the massive Wiki posts Linsey used to make telling us about upcoming changes. Many of which were never honored.


I'm just curious as to how everyone feels about our ex-team lead's visions never being carried out and how that impacts your view of our new team lead's posts. Does it affect how much you trust his new posts? Does the fact that he hasn't actually added anything to the game yet scare you or excite you?

Thanks for responding
AngelWJedi
AngelWJedi
Furnace Stoker
#2
im like most of my friends. we're happy to see the new stuff we will get. but know 5/10 of time we dont get what they promise. so we will wait and see if we get the new stuff promised.
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a-kyle
Krytan Explorer
#3
Untill I load up guildwars and it sais i have xMbs of new content to unzip and download and bla. I think they are nothing more then filthy liars bent on raising our expectations and fillings our cereal bowls with there p*ss.

With that said, I am in anticipation for this new content to come out and be apart of the world. I am excited to try new things, how ever I think GW (anet) is trying to shut those who bitch about pugs up with the whole 7 hero things and should realize that the longer you take to release an update the deader your game gets, the more people you take away from GW1 to focus on this "supposed" GW2 game the more deader your game gets, and deader isn't even a word.

Walk the walk and talk the talk only if you have some SOLID ACTUAL PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to back up your claims and failed blog posts. because think about it. "every four months you get new updates"....that lasted what...two rounds before being shot to h*ll?

every month was skill balances then it was every other month. now its what? when ever we feel like it? whats there excuse? "this inst wow, you don't pay so shut up and deal with it?" NO.

My thoughts.

Either put up or shut up.

These blog posts do nothing but heighten speculations of things that may never happen. or will but only when its too late for us to care, such as when GW 2 comes out.
own age myname
own age myname
Desert Nomad
#4
I won't believe it until I see it. Although, I fully expect all of it to happen.

- Crisis in Cantha. May not be in the near future. Hell, maybe not till GW2 is even out.
- 7 heroes/Embark Beach. I can actually see this happening in the near future
- Halloween Updates. Well it's almost Halloween, not much else to say.
Karate Jesus
Karate Jesus
Forge Runner
#5
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelWJedi View Post
im like most of my friends. we're happy to see the new stuff we will get. but know 5/10 of time we dont get what they promise.
So.....half of the time?
Mireles
Mireles
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
I'll just be happy with what i get considering i have not spent a penny on guild wars since eotn.
K
Killed u man
Forge Runner
#7
Quote:
Content update

* "Major possible changes to GvG"
* Changes to scythes
* GvG tiebreaker
* New Hall of Heroes map

* Implementation of full hero parties
* New Zaishen outpost, Embark Beach


[edit] Skill balance updates
Skill balance updates are expected to be released every other month ,

[edit] Monthly maintenance update
Those changes still dind't happen, one year later. Neither does the change to scythes so that they're not completely useless for dervs anymore, and not redicilously OP when combined with critshit. Whenever Scythe sees play in PvP, it's some redicilously easy to play gimmick which usually is incredibly OP.

Tiebreaker, I might pick up GvG again if this tiebreaker shit got fixed. As a matter of fact, alot would have to change. Guild thiefs and shit would have to come back, cuz they were fun, and they made stuff like the catapult matter.

HA is completely shit. Hall of Heroes is the bottom shit dripping off of that shit. (Pardon my language) I have yet to see another game with such uncompetitive conditions getting labeled "PvP". Relic Run is so random, it's not even funny. Anyone who even comes close to claiming Relic Run is a good format should die under a rock. It's not fun, it's not competitive, it's downright luck. Cap Points: Poop because when there's 3 teams, the most passive team is always going to win. Cap Points promotes "below -the-radar-play", aka shit. As long as noone engages at you, and you don't engage at anyone (so as long as you do RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO all but fight for center) you'll win. Insane fun...

The rest has been promised, and now confirmed, so can't such much about that.

Lol at monthly maintainance update, and bi-monthly skill update. I gues whoever wrote those notes pooped himself.
Konig Des Todes
Konig Des Todes
Ooo, pretty flower
#8
I'll take what I get for free and pay for what I can to get more if I want it.

All these "new updates" are stuff we'd get for free so if Anet changes their mind on them or cannot produce them for free due to resources, then I see no reason to hate them for getting ahead of themselves.

Though I will say that I hate with a fiery passion anything that is made but unused for silly reasons (unimplemented or taken out content, I mean). The 2009 Halloween quests, Day of the Tengu and the Kryta Kurz/Lux quest chains are such situations.
MArcSinus
MArcSinus
Frost Gate Guardian
#9
It's great, just sucks that it hasn't been done a year earlier..
Shayne Hawke
Shayne Hawke
Departed from Tyria
#10
Sort of building off of what Borat spoke of, it's a little concerning to me how little attention has been given to the PvP scene as of late. If saying that is going too far, then I don't think I'm in the wrong to at least say that most of the attention that has been put towards PvP lately has not been successful in making the PvP experience in general to be more enjoyable. While I'd like to see more done about this, I don't feel like the changes that are being thought of and pushed out are having the impact that they need to have.

Obviously, I can not comment on the GvG Tiebreaker changes, but I can say something about the new HoH map: it doesn't strike me as anything that will fix HA. People can say that the playerbase is the problem with elitism and stuff like that, but the way I see it, the format at its core just doesn't seem to work very well. Adding new maps or rotating in old ones isn't going to be a decent fix to the format, and until work is done on improving that much, a better scene isn't going to come to HA.

PvP is essentially eternal content once you get the recipe right. It might be a little bit harder to make work than producing a story for PvE and building content for it every time, but when it works, it will give players something that lasts and will only die off when the playerbase finally leaves as a whole.

When John Stumme talks to the Krewe, he seems really passionate and energetic about everything that he wants to have happen, and he has hinted at a lot of things for the future that I've seen asked for for years now. It's all great stuff, and I feel great hearing about it, but... we'll see, I guess. Linsey was fairly ambitious too.
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dsielschott
Krytan Explorer
#11
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Originally Posted by Mireles View Post
I'll just be happy with what i get considering i have not spent a penny on guild wars since eotn.
THIS says it all.... and for all of you still mad about it well go pay for a new game....
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#12
I'm happy as long as we keep getting new stuff.
Be it free missions, something new on the store (as long as it is pay-once) or a change in some mechanic that changes the whole game.

He have been getting those. It's just slow, but things take time under the circumstances they are. The Live Team may be small compared with a full team of developers, but at least we are getting something, even if it's slow, and we are not paying fees for it!
Kojima
Kojima
Krytan Explorer
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mireles View Post
I'll just be happy with what i get considering i have not spent a penny on guild wars since eotn.
I totally agree.
FengShuiDove
FengShuiDove
Forge Runner
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
So.....half of the time?
Yeah I weirded out at that too.

Halloween will make up my mind. If they deliver with new content (even if it's relatively small) I'll start to believe. I want to believe. I believe in what they're intending to do. But if they can't deliver at Halloween I'll just wait until I see the update loading.
cosyfiep
cosyfiep
are we there yet?
#15
"WOLF!!!"

I get a little happy when I see what they planned, but when it takes months (years---if at all) to implement I feel like the townsfolk from the kid who cries wolf....

So as was said: until I see it, I wont believe it. (but will be happy if they do actually come thru and do it, though I have plenty of faith that the time table they have envisioned is more along the 'monthly updates' one which happened what every 3-6 months???)
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FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#16
It's only recently that game updates have begun to reflect where the population is (PvE)... which only reinforces where the population goes, but you got to go with success. Seriously you can't even get games in Alliance Battles half the time anymore, I don't see how we can expect Halls to come back to life when even the casual formats are failing.

Best thing that can be done is to cut the modes in half, replace zcombat with permanent decent rewards (including ones with pve market value), and put some effort into making the *most popular* format, RA, more enjoyable. Mild things like changing HoH maps or even the gvg tiebreaker is just not going to matter to enough people at this point.
Shadowspawn X
Shadowspawn X
Jungle Guide
#17
Not going to happen, and some of it is so radical that's a good thing.
Essence Snow
Essence Snow
Unbridled Enthusiasm!
#18
Like most others, I'm not holding my breath. Once I log on and everything's a buzz with it, then I'll be more enthused.

On a side note...like someone else noted...Why the changes to GvG vs other more popular PvP formats?
SpyderArachnid
SpyderArachnid
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
I'll be happy with what I get.

Anet has already given me a great game to play and I have enjoyed it over the years. Whether or not they keep to their word or end up not releasing certain content doesn't bother me one bit.

I am just happy that I got to experience the game and enjoy it with friends and family. I look forward to what GW2 has to offer and whatever content they decide to add to GW1 during that time.
Elnino
Elnino
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
On a side note...like someone else noted...Why the changes to GvG vs other more popular PvP formats?
It's more important