Heroes > Humans? At least they run this skillz I tell them :P

Ok, im pro this 7 hero update for reasons I will now state....

Zaishen bounty was a great addition to the game, it focuses the remaining players on a few certain aspects of the game each day and therefore continues the GWs tradition of having parties :P

Now, I made a personnel note having H/H everything (almost) in the game to treat ZBs and ZMs as a way to keep in contact with GWs population when PvEing. However, this did nothing for my blood pressure. I generally run a /kick if bad bar policy and invariably have no trouble waltzing through any of the ZBs in fast time, having been very VERY selective in who I bring... people generally rage at me for kicking them and a lot of you will say im one of those elitists who ruined the game, that is NOT why im making this thread... One of the things I will miss when I just rock up and roll with 7 heroes, is getting a good laugh out of some of the builds people ping me.

So, in honor of the death of pugging I want people to post some of the worst PUG builds they see when pugging ZBs or WiK missions or whatever. Whether it be Vow of strength dervs, warriors running DwG, necros trying to run SoS... (cos necros are clearly short of OPed elites) or things much much worse... Pls ping and maybe people will get a good laugh, or.... close the thread cos its too similar to the other 72314141 other threads about 7 hero parties!!!!

So post away, ill add any I see that are particularly bad :P

"necros trying to run SoS.."

Hmm Necros can run Sos just fine what are you talking about?

Rits have bigger attributes and Spawning Power, in other words, stronger and more durable spirits.

Sure they have, but to say Necros are no good as SoS is just not right. When I farm I always take my necro over my Rt.
Could be I like my necro more ofcoz.

Farming is not the same as doing bounties and missions, and for that yes a necro, or ele or monk can do SoS just fine.... the point i was making is that necros can have 4 or 5 SERIOUSLY overpowered builds so why would u bother taking SoS as an alternative, its like a paragon running SoS.... secondly as our good friend said, rts run it better....
also... this thread is to post bad builds, i was just giving an example, yes its not terribad, but tbh, it aint 'good' in my eyes. But people have different opinions on whats good, whats acceptable and whats bad. This thread is for people to post bad builds they see so we can have a few good laughs :P not to question what classes can run SoS and to what standard.... i hurd my war was strong SoS....

oh and PLS dont say, whats wrong with Vow of strength on a derv when running with 7 humans...... cos i KNOW someone will read that and be like.... 'but Vow of strength is gooood'!

Ok, in that case I think I can post my first build when I get home think I stil have it somewhere.
Dunno the exact skill but like so many before my I thought flare spamming was working fine. Untill I reached LA and some nice guildies showed me some awesome builds.

Everybody doesn't play to "maximize" everything and do it as fast as they can. There are really no bad builds just bad players like the OP. When one plays to have fun then all other things are really irrelevant. It is fun to play for laughs, but, not to laugh at other players way of playing.
I also see this thread as turning into nothing but a flamewar. The OP is just taking stabs at those that play differently and not his way.

I... believe you're mistaken. There's a million bad builds. Bars with bad synergy, underpowered skills, things that are completely non-sensical.

I'm a big fan of experimenting with builds, especially now that I've got my titles and basically completed everything I set out to do. I'd probably get kicked out of one of OP's PUGs and laugh about it. Sometimes a subpar build can be played pretty masterfully. Maybe it's not meta, but still worth bringing. That's why my 7 hero setups probably won't be 100% ordinary, but they'll be just as good as the next guy that copies from PvX or runs meta heroes.

@aspi - Flare spam is always so tempting though when you're new. You're always casting something and it makes you feel like you're just cranking out damage .

What always irks me is when pug-ing an easy bounty that takes 5 minutes (like valis today) and you join a group and the leader is R/Rt running spirit spam and then invites a Rt/x and tells the Rit to run something other than SoS. Let the rit run spirit spam and the ranger run splinter barrage or ANY ranger build!!! SoS is not the only build out there pug people...
/endrant

This is a prime example of a build that most would say is really bad.....but it isn't. It serves a very specific role in a specific area in a team build. Point is....it's a bit debatable over what is/is not bad. All aspects of a build and what it's used for have to be explored to judge it's merit.

@ Bassma... I can see this thread becomming a massive flame war as well.

I saw a monk running this:

Ether Feast, Energy Tap, Divine Intervention, Clumsiness, Restful Breeze, Shared Burden, Watchful Spirit, Res Chant

+ ive seen the stupid WoH Warrior running a monk bar with 2 pips of regen (totally pro)

Basically every build I've ever made has had me kicked from teams. And then I laugh when I finish the mission in 10 minutes and see the same team still in outpost saying "GLF more!"

If you are creative enough then you won't have to use one of the vanilla wiki builds like SoS or the such. The problem is that most "elite" players have become dependent on pvx wiki and can't imagine any use for builds that aren't on the site.

As has been pointed out, Rit's can go upto 16 Channelling, which gives higher leveled spirits, which do more damage and are more durable, adding in spawning power is also an added bonus making spirits even more durable.

Why would you gimp a Necro, who using soul reaping reclaims loads of energy to then use that energy on Signet of Spirits,... a skill which doesn't need energy.

/fail.

Leave SoS to Rits please, they're much better at it than ANY other profession.

I'm sure there is a big old thread around somewhere where people listed the silly builds they saw people run.

Uh PuGing stopped being a big thing ages ago, for anything the addition of Embarkment Beach will promote it...

I've recently started playing thru Factions and just capped SoS the other day. Figured I'd try spirit spam on my R/Rt. It works pretty well. But if a Rt/any wanted on the team and wanted to run SoS I'd switch in a heartbeat. Splinter/Barrage or even a full Beastmaster bar (one that's been pretty decent but got me laughed at and kicked aplenty).

That said, if I'm in a PuG and somebody pings what looks like an awful build to me, instead of laughing at them and feeling smug and superior, I discuss it with them and either they or I learn something. And that feels WAY better than narcissism.

for the most part ANY build I run would get me 'kicked' for the OP team, I have only looked at the pvx ONCE in my life....otherwise I run what I want to, yes sometimes we do fail but for the most part I recall someone saying they could play the game with no skills on their bar and still beat every mission------
I run the builds I am comfortable with, asking my rit to go resto is like asking me to do shaowform on a sin (which I dont even have one of)....you just wont get any heals from me if I am still reading the skill descriptions (no sorry I do NOT have them all memorized or know which ones sync well with others and which do not, I have a RL ).

so my mes who runs with her pet build (and interupts) will probably get a big laugh from everyone here, but my heroes and henchmen dont mind and since she has completed leg guardian as well as most of the wik stuff I doubt I will have any reason to pug with her so no one will get to have that big laugh, sorry.

As bad as all the mending/wounding strike monks etc etc etc are

What annoys me the most is people who didnt do the +30 skillpoint quests...

Anyway random ones:




The last one was a monk, and no he wasnt trolling... He actually played that xD

Yes we can say Rits are better at it.

However suppose your team just got filled with 8 and not a single Rit. Pretty much any profession can go /Rt secondary and play SoS effectively. It might not be as strong but SoS is so overpowered that the small loss in firepower/durability is no reason to not run it.