Thistle's Scribbles and Stories

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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Join Date: Aug 2010

Thanks, Gemini

Verene, thanks for the tutorials! That tutorial I mentioned early talks about thinking of the curls in a 3D way so I'm going to do that last after the armor so I can have them interact with each other. On a side not, I saw Tangled yesterday, and so many times during the movie, I was like 'I wish I could draw that hair!' Oh, another thing, I keep coloring her hair pinkish because it looks like pinkish shadows in the ref shot. Do you want pinkish/blond hair or more of brown/blond hair? I'm also going to redo the eyes so let me know if you have a color preference other than violet It's a busy week this week (why isn't it still the Thanksgiving holiday?!?!) so I probably won't have another update until the weekend D:

Verene

Verene

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Join Date: Jan 2009

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Her hair is pinkish-blond, yes And looking at a zoomed-in shot from the makeover NPC, her eyes are a light grey with some purple mixed in.

And yeah, curls are hard to deal with, I usually do the hair last so that way it'll interact with everything else properly.

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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Join Date: Aug 2010

Working here and there on Verene's ranger during breaks I thought I could somehow turn this into a Wintersday entry, but I don't think what I want to do will work since I'd have to change a lot to make it happen

Anyway, she was supposed to be all fierce in the starter sketch, but now I feel like she came out looking kinda vulnerable... Working from top down, so next up is the armor top I half-hazardly sketched in

frostkisses

frostkisses

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i LOVE her eyes thistle! and the freckles are cute ^^
my only real critique at this point is that i think her nose should be a little wider. her face is very round and her nose looks a little out of place with how narrow it is.

Perynne

Perynne

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Finland

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I agree with frostkisses, her nose is a little too small for such a large face. But otherwise her face is so beautiful! And her eyes definitely look great.

Ravenhawk

Ravenhawk

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Join Date: Apr 2009

Eon

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That looks awesome Thistle! Again, better than your previous ones. Perynne and Frost are right about the nose though. I myself am having a hard time with noses still lol

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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Thanks so much! I couldn't figure out what was off so I kept mucking with the lips and jawline... I didn't even think of changing the nose! <3

Verene

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Looks really nice! And yes, making the nose a bit larger will make it fit in better.

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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tried to change the nose, but had some trouble D: I managed to make it a little bigger I think... Also played around with layer settings to get the hair color closer to the reference images and worked on the torso a bit



Tommy's

Tommy's

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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Very good Thistle ^^ Loving the eyecolour. You might want to darken the outlines of the eyes a bit aswell as the outlines of the nosewings. Dont be afraid to use more contrast

Verene

Verene

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I think somewhere between that and the original purplish hair color you had for her would about hit it perfectly. Yes, my Ranger has unnatural hair XD

The texture on the armor is spot-on perfect

Drelias Melaku

Drelias Melaku

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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I've mostly just been lurking, but I wanted to stop by and tell you how great that looks. She's beautiful! You improve so much with each picture. I'll have to keep an eye on this thread to watch for that "Closed" to change to "Open".

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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Thanks, Tommy I keep thinking I'm overdoing the contrast, but then when I post, I realize it does need more D: I guess my perception is way different when painting and then seeing it later resized in a different setting :/

Lol, Verene, trying to figure out that hair color is so vexing XD I'll probably redo it for hair attempt #6 (or #7? lost count!).

Thanks, Drelias I actually wasn't planning on reopening for a few months while I've got the three I'm working on now, Omens' redo (to make up for the muddy B/W sketch D: ), some random GW pics for stories, and some non-GW art I want to work on. But, if you like and don't mind being in the queue with all the other stuff, I can go ahead and add you to my list now (although I probably won't be able to start until Jan/Feb/March or so). Since we're in the same alliance, I can give you the spot I had been saving for a guildie since no one in SOR wants a pic made D: QQ D: QQ D: QQ

Tommy's

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I found this very usefull when its coming to realisticly painting faces. What my suggestion would be, is place that palette in your painting for Verene, use eyedropper to suck up colours from the face you chose, and start painting over the picture for Verene in another layer (ofcourse it could be another painting too ofcourse ). Then when you think it looks good then hide the layer and show it again and see the difference and what you like better. When you paint you oftenly get used to things and don't see it anymore if its too dark or too flat or too light, etc. To see it its the case such things always help me (aswell as adjustment layers ) Might work for you too ^^ But don't use the palette everytime

Drelias Melaku

Drelias Melaku

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@Thistle: Oo, I'd be honored. <333 Thank you! I don't mind a wait at all. Let me know when it gets to be around my turn and I'll pull up a couple characters for you to choose from. (I might still tweak my favorites a bit here and there until then)

Fff, whhyyyy would no one in SOR want one of those? D: Even before all the improvements, your art was pretty good.

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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Join Date: Aug 2010

haven't had a chance to draw this week T_T

Lol, I LOVE that link, I'm so using that as my crutch until I get used to finding colors myself.

Thanks for the tip, Tommy. I actually tend to make multiple back up layers when I'm making major changes (instead of just painting on a new layer). Problem though is that I don't delete them and them my computer starts yelling at me D:

Ok, Drelias Thanks! I guess we don't have art people in SOR, but at least I have an art buddy in the alliance {hug}

Darcy

Darcy

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

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Thistle, that drawing is amazing. You have improved so much, it's unbelievable. Just felt the need to say something, as there is no such thing as too much praise.

Drelias Melaku

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-return hug- I'm still a bit shocked that no one jumped on that, but I guess not everyone enjoys it as much as the Nolani crowd. D:

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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High-Five Tommy! I've got an imac, too I do my drawings on my macBook though because then I can huddle next to a space heater :O Putting the imac and office downstairs in the cold, cold basement seemed like a good idea in summer T_T

Thanks, Darcy I appreciate that!

Lol, Drelias, I know, right? I would have thought at least thor and fc would want one for their gwamm chars and serax is soooooo supportive of my writings that I figured he'd want a pic! Oh well XD. Kinda worked out in the end since I can do other non-GW stuff without worrying about a large queue making me feel guilty

Also just wanted to share my failed attempt at speed-painting (non-GW). It was supposed to be an hour attempt, but in the end it took 3.5 hours D:


InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

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Not too bad, I think the eye should have been circular. (is that even a word?)
Well, circle shape.

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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Join Date: Aug 2010

I thought the iris was circular D:

side note: horse pupils creep me out... go ahead, google it D|

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

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Horse's pupils are oval shaped, like goat's. They dilate in a similar manner to cat's eyes, but up and down the eye instead of out sideways. :P

Since you shouldn't look into horse's eyes, it took me a while to notice myself, I admit.

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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lol gemini... I remember going to one of those drive-through animal places where you can feed the animals in the car with my sister and being creeped out by the deer eyes D: We actually thought they were sick or something because of the sideway pupil thing! Of course now I know it helps their vision and helps them survive -_-

But still...

Anyway, still messing around and after failing to kill Mallyx in game, decided to chibisize (let's add this to the Nolani dictionary!) the dog...



Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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good idea with the timer, pery! I've decided I'm not ready for 1-hr speed painting though XD I think my goal will have to be 3 hours or something.

Tommy's

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I think what my mistake has been that I wanted to do quite detailed things too soon. I can seriously advice you to do practice with speed paintings. Don't set yourself a timelimit (well you can ofcourse, but that does not define speedpainting imo) just stay away from some kind of detail. Seriously, you learn a lot from speedpainting. Just quickly get a position, a light source and some shadowing down and rock on from there. You learn getting poses down much quicker and how the basics of light and shadow work. Though I can't say this is much better, but I think I learned more from some of my 1-2 hour doodles then from some of my fully detailed commissions. But everything has its value, so just do both ^^ And when you don't have enough time, just do some more By the way if you go speedpainting I can suggest using some custo brushes (at least if you want to go for a sort of coceptart look) because those make it looks rather finished quicker. But thats my opinion

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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I've started making custom brushes actually It really does make such a difference!

Great advice on speed painting, thanks! Come to think of it, I'll probably try some more speed painting with fantasy since I can go for a mysterious half-finished fantasy look


This is my 'finished' portrait of Verene so the details don't get lost in the actual finished full piece. Still got a long while in finishing up the full body pic because of stupid lack of free time @_@ ...



Verene

Verene

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Looks good!

And man do I understand the lack of time...^^;

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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lol, thanks, verene BTW, do you have a fave skill that you use? I'm debating about either giving her hand a slight glow as if she's making her arrow a fire or poison arrow or doing one of those full preparation (where it's like a fire circle or something) animations. I only have a pvp trapper ranger, so I was going to pick one of those random trap preparation skills to draw unless you have a preference (lol, that should tell you how much I play my ranger since I don't even know what it's called).

Took a break from drawing and switched to crazy farming Snowball Dominance XD So... today, took a break from SD and decided to do some brainstorming starter sketches...

Miriforst's starter sketch... not very exciting, more of a realistic version of the anime one I drew earlier


Pery, I've got a couple for you Let me know if you prefer any of these. I'm not sure which one I'll do yet...

Verene

Verene

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Join Date: Jan 2009

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The main two builds I use revolve around either Barrage or Burning Arrow.

Ravenhawk

Ravenhawk

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Eon

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Thistle! Verene's painting looks gorgeous. The sketches are looking good too!

Drelias Melaku

Drelias Melaku

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The eyes look just a wee bit small on Mirifrost's sketch (they may just seem like that because of the glasses, though - I'm not sure), but everything else looks great!

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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Hmmm... I'll go with a fire glow then

Thanks Raven and thanks Drelias! I think it's just the glasses, but I'll make sure to be careful about that when I start working on it.

Dec 29 EDIT: YAY! Finally, finally, finally finished Verene's pic I'm so excited, because I learned so much stuff on digital painting with this attempt!





Thanks so much for letting me use your ranger as my model Hope you like it

Jan 1 EDIT: Finished Miriforst's portrait. Decided to scrap the sketch and use a different model He looks so sad in this portrait, which I didn't mean to do on purpose D: Anyway, still happy with how it came out, and I'm just going to assume he lost in memory of a sad GW event, but right after this brief moment of sadness, he cheers up

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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Nice work, Thistle. My only suggestion would be distribute the lines where you refine shapes just a bit more. There are a few areas where the details are really clear, but other parts where some of the character's information gets lost (ex: the nose on the portrait).

Other than that, keep it up.

Verene

Verene

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Join Date: Jan 2009

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Whoa, I missed the edit there. It looks awesome, Thistle - thank you so much Sorry my Ranger was such a pain for you XD