Hurray for cat ears

aznj03

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2010

Relics of Orr

N/Me

These ears are awesome

Leek

Leek

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2009

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I like my ears (^o^)b

they make me look soooo MINXY =^w^=

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

None

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You see cat suits irl and in cartoons, end of discussion. Now go and enjoy them ears and goggles!

Vann Borakul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Noble Honor [NH]

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Originally Posted by Spookii View Post
People are entitled to opinions. o_O Not sure why other people jump on the bandwagon of calling out those of us who don't like the one/all of the hats as "whiners" or "haters". They're saying they don't like them + telling why they don't like them. If they just posted "THEY SUCK!!!" and didn't say why, they'd probably get called out as well. I don't like the goggles because they don't fit into the Halloween spirit. Some people don't like the cat ears because it reminds them of ... well, people that annoy them/that they make fun of.

So what? lulz
Yes, people are entitled to opinions.
But feelings aren't opinions, and the proclamation of feelings as opinions is just a widespread annoyance.

If I were to mention how I hated these hats, it would be a sentiment.

If I were to mention how I loved these hats, it would be a sentiment.

If I were to mention how these hats are very workable for mixing with armor and are thus good hats with provided logical, debatable reasoning, it would be an opinion.

If I were to mention how these hats are not in the halloween spirit with provided logical, debatable reasoning, it would be an opinion. Keep in mind opinions can be wrong and can become facts.

If I were to mention how these hats are stupid and awful, maybe with a touch of stereotypical attribution, it would be a fallacious perception.

By all means, share your sentiments and opinions, but don't use them interchangeably. It just creates a snowball effect where you didn't understand what you wrote, other people don't understand what you wrote, and then everyone argues about something where none of them have any idea what they're actually arguing about.

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

I was kind of disappointed. Maybe if there was an armor that looked punky and you could use other weapons (ala GW2 guns or something), I'd like the goggles. Glorified glasses don't do much for me. Just like the armor spectacles...those don't fit with the game either imo. But oh well. The cat ears look cute on my bf. lol. I would not wear them though. But that's just me.

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Just found this pretty interesting. A little bit of info on the masks. :]

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Oh and as a bit of insight (because I know there was some debate about it): the two of us came up with those festival hats while trying to build the 40 model sets for the store. For the record, NEITHER were inspired by anime. It's a black cat which has been the familiar to a Halloween witch since at least medieval times (that's before anime was invented, folks) and a set of steampunk-inspired goggles because I love steampunk and thought people would enjoy something they could wear as part of a Halloween costume as well as after the holidays. To answer the question of location, I put it on the forehead because people usually really like seeing their character's faces. However, unfortunately, neither are dyeable because they're masks that allow you to keep your hair - and masks don't have a dye channel on the dervish because that space was originally taken up by their full profession hoods. A helmet, on the other hand, takes up the same space as the hair on the texture. This is why helmets drop the hair. So future masks will not be dyeable, but hats potentially can be... and we will try to minimize the hair loss. Or at least recommend a good trichologist.
http://www.massively.com/2010/11/11/...elys-intervie/

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Why is it they could get sassis, rangers, and mesmers to have masks and hair, but they couldn't do that for dervishes...

Anet has some really lazy developers.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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The 'lazy' card is played too much nowadays.

You really see the Live Team hanging in a chair 'nah, I'd rather watch another episode of this soap opera, don't feel like coding much. Maybe I'll do it tomorrow. Or next week. Whatever.' ?

Dewshine Wildclaw

Dewshine Wildclaw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

Planet Earth

Weapons Of Tyria [WoT]

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa View Post
i like the cat ears, and dont like goggles, so only got cat ears (my own choice)
whiskers would be funny with it, i agree
and yea, bunny ears for easter would be nice
and a whole bunny costume would also be nice
dont tell me its perverted, as some female ele armors are naked mostly
so a bunny outfit wouldnt be as perverted as some female ele armors, imo


you would want a costume like that ^ omg you perv (jk)

Actually I would like a bunny costume too, or at least the ears... not like on the picture I just added but in a neat way

on topic... I only just came onto guru (long time I been here) and was very amused to find this topic... that long a topic because of some festival headgear?

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls View Post
Just found this pretty interesting. A little bit of info on the masks. :]



http://www.massively.com/2010/11/11/...elys-intervie/
And there we have it. Word straight from the two artists who created the costumes and hats - they were not anime inspired.

Anyways, this was a really cool article - thanks for posting. I actually had thought Kekai had a hand in designing the costumes - nice to see the other ANet artists are dishing out quality work. Looking forward to seeing the upcoming Cantha content!

Dark Saviour

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Saviours of the Innocent

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So the bloody dervishes are the only thing really preventing the masks from being dye-able... >:-(

Since the system they're working under seems so restrictive, I'd like to see them patch it, but with the team size, I suppose that's implausible. :-/

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Originally Posted by Arduin View Post
The 'lazy' card is played too much nowadays.
I stand by what I said. The people who made everything pre-derv got it right. The people who designed the dervishes couldn't even copy and paste the right code that was already written for existing classes (paragon crests can't be dyed either).

And of course no one was willing to go back and fix the mistake.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post
And there we have it. Word straight from the two artists who created the costumes and hats - they were not anime inspired.
No chance of that being a lie, eh? I'd say that they made that statement to justify their creation in their own minds and hopefully put an end to the massive amount of criticism they're getting. Again: If they had done what they had in past years and added a facepaint or false "nose" to fill out the cat theme, I'd leave this discussion alone. They did not. I stand by my contention that it was indeed meant to appease the anime freaks.


It's a plain fact that the majority of players using these cat ears are fulfilling their weeaboo fantasies in another media form available to them. You can tell from their screen names, character names, avatars, and discussions elsewhere.

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
No chance of that being a lie, eh? I'd say that they made that statement to justify their creation in their own minds and hopefully put an end to the massive amount of criticism they're getting. Again: If they had done what they had in past years and added a facepaint or false "nose" to fill out the cat theme, I'd leave this discussion alone. They did not. I stand by my contention that it was indeed meant to appease the anime freaks.


It's a plain fact that the majority of players using these cat ears are fulfilling their weeaboo fantasies in another media form available to them. You can tell from their screen names, character names, avatars, and discussions elsewhere.
I'm casting Remove Tin Foil Hat on A11Eur0!

Seriously dude... wtf?

Celestina

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
No chance of that being a lie, eh? I'd say that they made that statement to justify their creation in their own minds and hopefully put an end to the massive amount of criticism they're getting. Again: If they had done what they had in past years and added a facepaint or false "nose" to fill out the cat theme, I'd leave this discussion alone. They did not. I stand by my contention that it was indeed meant to appease the anime freaks.


It's a plain fact that the majority of players using these cat ears are fulfilling their weeaboo fantasies in another media form available to them. You can tell from their screen names, character names, avatars, and discussions elsewhere.
Let me guess, you think the world is ending in 2012 also don't you?

kokuou

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/Me

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
I stand by my contention that it was indeed meant to appease the anime freaks.
Why would they feel the need to hide that if it were true? Given the overwhelming number of pop culture references in the game, many of which are are from anime, I don't think they'd have a problem telling us if indeed it were inspired from anime.

Nekodesu

Nekodesu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2009

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Originally Posted by Celestina View Post
Let me guess, you think the world is ending in 2012 also don't you?
You guessed right.

It's amazing how much hate there has to come just because cat ears, of all things in this world, remind some people of anime. The ONLY ANIME I've ever seen with catears are Loveless, and it doesn't appeal to most people as it is yaoi.

I don't even watch anime.

Seems to me some people just need to hate others who are different than themself. Cat ears to me, doesn't have much to do with anime, I mean. A cat is an animal, and it has well, cat ears. So that's what I relate it to. Yeah, scream at me for being named Nekodesu. Big deal. Well you can scream at me if you actually know what neko desu means.

I guess some people here have had a bad experience with somebody liking anime, just cause I don't. I don't hate ever guy because he watches porn and I don't, now do I? I guess you guys freakin' the hell out of this stuff are some big ass weaboos yourself

I like cute things, and I love cats. Hate me for it. Blarrrggg the rageeeeee.

Guy Incognito

Guy Incognito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

the 1980's

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I really cannot understand all the venom for this anime stuff. Can somebody please explain to me why a lot of people seem to really hate what is essentialy (as far as I can see at least) a bloody cartoon.

Anyone would think you people never watched cartoons when you were younger.

@Neko.. Ok, I'm curious now but what does your username mean anyway?

And yes, I like porn... don't hate meh for it!

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Because it's japanese and to some people on the internets, anyone who likes japanese stuff is a weeaboo and weeaboos are bad.

Nyta

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

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Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
@Neko.. Ok, I'm curious now but what does your username mean anyway?
Well, I'm not Nekodesu, but I can translate it anyway. It means "[I/he/she/it/you/we/they] am/is/are a cat." Japanese sometimes leaves out the subject.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Originally Posted by Deviant Angel View Post
I'm casting Remove Tin Foil Hat on A11Eur0!

Seriously dude... wtf?
Go ahead and take whatever you read as gospel truth...but the manner in which they addressed the issue screams damage control. Think whatever you want otherwise.

And to the rest of you screaming "hater"....you're all retards. It's possible to dislike something on established principle and not be a general "hater". How about you come up with an actual argument instead of laying down the blanket statement that I'm just a "hater".

I have quite the collection of anime, btw. I don't "hate" anime. I dislike these ears because they simply don't belong.

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Originally Posted by kokuou View Post
Why would they feel the need to hide that if it were true? Given the overwhelming number of pop culture references in the game, many of which are are from anime, I don't think they'd have a problem telling us if indeed it were inspired from anime.
Show me one anime reference in this game other than the cat ears that is so prevalent and pervasive. Please.

Guy Incognito

Guy Incognito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

the 1980's

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
Because it's japanese and to some people on the internets, anyone who likes japanese stuff is a weeaboo and weeaboos are bad.
Ahh thanks, altho having seen and liked some Japanese movies I suppose that makes me a weeaboo... oh the horror lol.

@Nyta, thanks mate.

Prince Rogrs Nelson

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2010

Reign of Judgment (RoJ)

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I've pretty much NEVER watched anime. Of any kind. Ever.

Ok, to offend BOTH parties to the last bit of debate, I HAVE watched some tentacle porn. But that was mostly for laughs in college.

But I've grown to really like the ears. They look great on pretty much all of my female characters, and I've even worn them for kicks on the guys a few times. They just happen to look cute. I agree that A11Eur0 needs to take off the tinfoil hat and lighten up a bit.

Unless you'd like to explain to me just how some completely optional cosmetic items killed your father or something...

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Originally Posted by Prince Rogrs Nelson View Post
I've pretty much NEVER watched anime. Of any kind. Ever.

Ok, to offend BOTH parties to the last bit of debate, I HAVE watched some tentacle porn. But that was mostly for laughs in college.

But I've grown to really like the ears. They look great on pretty much all of my female characters, and I've even worn them for kicks on the guys a few times. They just happen to look cute. I agree that A11Eur0 needs to take off the tinfoil hat and lighten up a bit.

Unless you'd like to explain to me just how some completely optional cosmetic items killed your father or something...
"They look good on the female characters, they happen to look cute." This is the prevailing argument in support of them, as opposed to the argument by most supporters that it's simply a halloween thing. This is what gets to me the most...fake excuses to support something that is obviously intended to be something else.

Oh, and tinfoil hats are for conspiracy theorists. I don't think there's any evil wrongdoing planned by introducing these cat ears. I do think they lied though...that's not a conspiracy, and they're not reading my thoughts from their satellites. Moron.

Prince Rogrs Nelson

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2010

Reign of Judgment (RoJ)

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...if two people plan a lie together (they both said the same thing in the interview, after all), then BY DEFINITION, they have engaged in a conspiracy. Trust me. I've successfully prosecuted people under just that standard.

And that whole "black cat/Halloween" thing sounds perfectly legitimate to me. Regardless, though, if you simply regard them as being related to Halloween by virtue of the fact that people wear costumes (many of which include cat ears, you'll notice, unless you live under a rock) on Halloween, and these fit into a "costume" theme, then there's still no reason to be upset.

But you know what, man? Even if they ARE meant to be TOTALLY anime inspired, and they're ONLY there to please the weeaboo or whatever you call them, I don't really understand how that's diminished your GW experience at all. Maybe you should worry less about other people's tastes.

Celestina

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
"They look good on the female characters, they happen to look cute." This is the prevailing argument in support of them, as opposed to the argument by most supporters that it's simply a halloween thing. This is what gets to me the most...fake excuses to support something that is obviously intended to be something else.
What gets me is that anyone with half a brain could tell the obvious fact that the ears are based off the popular for god knows how long black cat costume.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Originally Posted by Prince Rogrs Nelson View Post
But you know what, man? Even if they ARE meant to be TOTALLY anime inspired, and they're ONLY there to please the weeaboo or whatever you call them, I don't really understand how that's diminished your GW experience at all. Maybe you should worry less about other people's tastes.
That goes both ways, bud.

Anyway I'm done with this discussion. I've said my piece.

Yojimaru

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

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Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
I really cannot understand all the venom for this anime stuff. Can somebody please explain to me why a lot of people seem to really hate what is essentialy (as far as I can see at least) a bloody cartoon.
It's mainly due to the influence of 4chan and it's sundry offspring websites. Due to their influence on Internet culture, just about anyone who expresses an interest in Japanese animation, movies, music, culture or other things is derogatively referred to as a "Weeaboo" (the term came from a word filter), regardless of whether they're the type of people of WORSHIP anything Japanese or not.